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Tbear

(486 posts)
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:16 PM Apr 2021

Joy Reid just said that you have to rack

a pistol before you shoot it, so how could you confuse it with a taser?
I like Joy but only in the movies do you see people racking the slide before they shoot.
I believe US police will carry with a round in the chamber so you only have to flip the safety lever off. In this case the pistol looked like a Glock so the safeties are internal so the trigger IS the safety.
If you notice in the Windsor incident Gutierrez has his trigger finger laying along the slide, well outside of the trigger guard. This is the correct and safe way to hold your pistol until you are ready to fire(now pointing it at someone is another matter).
BOTTOM LINE: Hollywood loves to have their actors racking the slide frequently. In real life there is a round chambered already.

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Joy Reid just said that you have to rack (Original Post) Tbear Apr 2021 OP
I'm wondering why the cop even thought it was necessary to tase the guy. Ocelot II Apr 2021 #1
Yes. NT enough Apr 2021 #6
Did you see him break away and dive into car? Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #9
So what? They had his license plate number; they knew where to find him. Ocelot II Apr 2021 #18
He was trying to leave! Nt USALiberal Apr 2021 #16
Exactly. rsdsharp Apr 2021 #2
Safety? Hell, guns ain't safe . . . AndyS Apr 2021 #3
No joke. Hoyt Apr 2021 #12
Hmmm empedocles Apr 2021 #4
Yeah, I own a gun but I don't carry. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #5
There's video of the shooting so you can see what actually happened... PoliticAverse Apr 2021 #7
I have three semi auto pistols my Springfield 40 cal. and Ruger LCP 380 they have no safety, doc03 Apr 2021 #8
Guess they wanna look good shooting Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #10
I saw a video a few years ago of a gang shooting at a bar in Toledo I think. There were over a doc03 Apr 2021 #14
I was at a range several years ago when three guys went to a lane to my left. rsdsharp Apr 2021 #20
Pro tip sarisataka Apr 2021 #11
Or gunners trying to protect their access to gunz. Hoyt Apr 2021 #13
That is quite the non sequitur, sarisataka Apr 2021 #15
Don't trust gunners to give you accurate info about gunz. Seems clear to me. Hoyt Apr 2021 #19
100% correct! Nt USALiberal Apr 2021 #17
That is 100% false. Cops carry 1 in the chamber and glocks don't have a safety. PrinceHakeem Apr 2021 #21
She's wrong. WarGamer Apr 2021 #22

Ocelot II

(115,589 posts)
18. So what? They had his license plate number; they knew where to find him.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 09:34 PM
Apr 2021

He had outstanding warrants for nonviolent crimes. It wasn't like they were trying to arrest a known serial killer. They could have just let him go and busted him at home.

rsdsharp

(9,137 posts)
2. Exactly.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:24 PM
Apr 2021

Joy has a tendency to talk out of her ass. She seems to think if she says something loud enough, and fast enough, it makes it true.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. Hmmm
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:28 PM
Apr 2021

EXPLAINER: How does an officer use a gun instead of a Taser?
https://omaha.com/news/national/explainer-how-does...
1 hour ago · This is the case in Brooklyn Center, where Gannon, the police chief, said officers are trained to carry a handgun on their dominant side and their stun gun on their weak side.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
5. Yeah, I own a gun but I don't carry.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:29 PM
Apr 2021

One of the many reason I don’t carry a gun around is because the only way it would be of any use in say, a mugging or a car jacking, is to have a round in the chamber and the safety off.

Cops have no choice but to carry their weapon in ready to go status.

doc03

(35,296 posts)
8. I have three semi auto pistols my Springfield 40 cal. and Ruger LCP 380 they have no safety,
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:42 PM
Apr 2021

you just pull the trigger. I have another Ruger LC9s 9mm that has a safety. It is done in the movies looks cool I guess. The street gang guys in the movies always shoot their gun sideways don't get that either.

doc03

(35,296 posts)
14. I saw a video a few years ago of a gang shooting at a bar in Toledo I think. There were over a
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:50 PM
Apr 2021

hundred rounds fired and nobody got hit. They used the sideways shooting technique I think.

rsdsharp

(9,137 posts)
20. I was at a range several years ago when three guys went to a lane to my left.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:35 PM
Apr 2021

They had a 9mm Glock and the went through a box of ammunition. All three used the sideways, one hand, grip. 50 rounds at 7 yards. No hits.

WarGamer

(12,354 posts)
22. She's wrong.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 11:15 PM
Apr 2021

99.99% of LEO weapons are carried with a round in the chamber, ready to fire.

Most LEO weapons don't even have a manual safety to de-activate before firing, they use "Passive safeties" like a sensor looking for a finger on the trigger.

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