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Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:24 PM Apr 2021

American airlines AAdvantage Aviator Red Mastercard - No purchases - LATE PAYMENT FEE!!!!!

I am sick of these credit card companies adding fake charges onto my accounts.

And of course when I call to get the charges off it is always, "Well you are a valued customer and I would be happy to remove those charges"

They are betting on the people who do not call about a $5 or $10 charge, (I think it is $5 from last month where I probably didn't even receive a bill and $5 for this month. And somehow $28.57 in 2021 in "Total interest charges" when I haven't used the damn card once.

The other one is one with AMAZON STORES that give you 5% back. I had a purchase on Jan 21 and on Feb 7th they charged me a late fee!

This has got to stop. This is fraud or theft of something that should be taken care of by law enforcement. Every single month now when I get a statement I expect fake charges. And I don't give a rat's ass that they are small amounts. Many companies make a lot of money by charging a lot of people small amounts that they hope will go unnoticed.

I've held onto the American Airlines card because I haven't used my miles yet and I'm afraid they will drop them if I cancel the card.

The Amazon card is CHASE

Maybe I should take them to small claims court instead of calling them. That way they have to send a representative here. I took my dentist to small claims court and received $5,000 from his sorry ass. AND I paid extra so a sheriff's officer would hand deliver the subpoena to his office. (Which he ended up paying for anyway since I won the case)

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American airlines AAdvantage Aviator Red Mastercard - No purchases - LATE PAYMENT FEE!!!!! (Original Post) Maraya1969 Apr 2021 OP
Many credit card agreements contain arbitration clauses Ocelot II Apr 2021 #1
So they can charge me a million dollars and I have no recourse? Maraya1969 Apr 2021 #2
You do have recourse, but it would have to be through arbitration if that's in the agreement. Ocelot II Apr 2021 #3
"I had a purchase on Jan 21 and on Feb 7th they charged me a late fee!" Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2021 #4
There are no charges. Only charges for "late fees" and then somewhere it says Maraya1969 Apr 2021 #9
You really don't know if you have used it? Treefrog Apr 2021 #19
Read the fine print in your agreements. Big Blue Marble Apr 2021 #5
Before you file in small claims court... Effete Snob Apr 2021 #6
I have had 3 credit card bills KT2000 Apr 2021 #7
I had that happen also and they said that things were held up in the mail. They Maraya1969 Apr 2021 #10
Why not just use e-billing and e-pay? I never get paper bills, ever. Celerity Apr 2021 #17
that what everyone says KT2000 Apr 2021 #20
oh, I never do auto-withdrawals, hell no, lol, but I pay everything online, one time authorisations, Celerity Apr 2021 #21
I see - that would be safer KT2000 Apr 2021 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author KT2000 Apr 2021 #8
This is why I will never, ever have gay texan Apr 2021 #11
Same here. Credit card offers go directly into the shredder. hunter Apr 2021 #12
Yup! Do not pass go, do not collect $200! Initech Apr 2021 #16
do you have a bank account? pstokely Apr 2021 #13
I do everything through a local credit union gay texan Apr 2021 #14
I love Discover XanaDUer2 Apr 2021 #15
Hmmm.... let me check my Amazon Chase card ecstatic Apr 2021 #18
Any reason why you don't have an online account with Chase? CreekDog Apr 2021 #23
The miles won't be dropped if you cancel the credit card. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2021 #24

Ocelot II

(115,661 posts)
1. Many credit card agreements contain arbitration clauses
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:38 PM
Apr 2021

which means you can't litigate a dispute with them in a regular court.

Ocelot II

(115,661 posts)
3. You do have recourse, but it would have to be through arbitration if that's in the agreement.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:40 PM
Apr 2021

Check whatever agreement you made when you got the card - it's probably on line.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. "I had a purchase on Jan 21 and on Feb 7th they charged me a late fee!"
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:43 PM
Apr 2021

Usually you get either 7, 10, or 14 day grace period before a late charge. This is based on the statement closing date + a few days normally. If the closing date was 1/22, and you gave them $0 until 2/7, that's 16 days. It's therefore quite possible they did nothing wrong there.

"And somehow $28.57 in 2021 in "Total interest charges" when I haven't used the damn card once."

You're saying that your balance on this card has been $0 every single day of 2021, and you see $28.57 in total interest for 2021?

That would be highly bizarre if true, I've had cards my whole life and never seen something like that. I'd go back and check each individual 2021 statement and see what the interest charge was for each.

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
9. There are no charges. Only charges for "late fees" and then somewhere it says
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 09:44 PM
Apr 2021

that total interest for 2021 is $28.57

It is possible I put something on the card but I really do not use it. I use one card from my bank and when I but from Amazon it goes on another card.

Big Blue Marble

(5,058 posts)
5. Read the fine print in your agreements.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:46 PM
Apr 2021

See if they are following their own rules?

If not you could go to arbitration, remembering the arbitrators are paid by them.
Most likely, you have signed away your rights to go to court when you accepted
card.

Your only likely option is to drop the cards and add new ones perhaps with your local
credit union.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
6. Before you file in small claims court...
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:49 PM
Apr 2021

...you may want to check the terms of your cardholder agreement, specifically...

https://www.barclaycardus.com/applycontent/banking/marketing/rangedcma/Barclaycard/Standard_Credit_Agreement.html

“ At the election of either you or us, any claim, dispute or controversy (“Claim”) by either you or us against the other, arising from or relating in any way to this Agreement or your Account, or their establishment, or any transaction or activity on your Account, including (without limitation) Claims based on contract, tort (including intentional torts), fraud, agency, negligence, statutory or regulatory provisions or any other source of law and (except as otherwise specifically provided in this Agreement) Claims regarding the applicability of this arbitration provision or the validity of the entire Agreement, shall be resolved exclusively by arbitration. For purposes of this provision, “you” includes yourself, any authorized user on the Account, and any of your agents, beneficiaries or assigns, or anyone acting on behalf of the foregoing, and “we” or “us” includes our employees, parents, subsidiaries, affiliates, beneficiaries, agents and assigns, and to the extent included in a proceeding in which Barclays is a party, its service providers and marketing partners. Any Claims sought to be made or remedies sought to be obtained as part of any class action, private attorney general or other representative action (hereafter all included in the term “class action”) shall be subject to arbitration, and arbitrated on an individual basis between you and us, not on a class or representative or other collective basis. The arbitrator shall not have any authority to entertain a claim, or to award any relief, on behalf of or against anyone other than a named party to the arbitration proceeding. If any Claim is advanced in a court, arbitration may be elected under this provision instead, and the right to elect arbitration shall not be deemed to have been waived if the election is made at any time before commencement of trial.”

More at the link.

KT2000

(20,572 posts)
7. I have had 3 credit card bills
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 09:28 PM
Apr 2021

held up in the mail. They were late by one, two, and three months. Dejoy must have friends in the credit card business.

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
10. I had that happen also and they said that things were held up in the mail. They
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 09:45 PM
Apr 2021

always take the charges off but it pisses me off that I have to go through all this go them them to do it.

KT2000

(20,572 posts)
20. that what everyone says
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 11:27 PM
Apr 2021

I am inching into it. Now I do for local utilities. My brother worked for his company's credit union and had problems with credit card companies withdrawing funds months after the person stopped the automatic withdrawals. One person I know had their account dinged several times in one day - after she stopped it. Each withdrawal had a fee attached when it was not covered. For these reasons I have been reluctant to do e-pay.

Celerity

(43,286 posts)
21. oh, I never do auto-withdrawals, hell no, lol, but I pay everything online, one time authorisations,
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 12:02 AM
Apr 2021

and all my bills come via e-mail or sms or app. I have not seen an actual paper bill in years. They are very frowned upon here in Sweden, as it contributes to pollution, wastes energy and natural resources and amplifies global climate change.

Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

gay texan

(2,440 posts)
14. I do everything through a local credit union
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 04:23 PM
Apr 2021

To me, a credit card is nothing but modern day usury. Debit cards fall into that same category as far as I'm concerned: too easy to spend money. If I need something, I'll go pull the cash out for it.

Bankruptcy altered my way of thinking quite a bit. I never, ever, want to be in that situation again. There are quite a number of alternative ways to pay for stuff if you research.

For large online purchases, I'll go to the grocery store and get an American Express "Serve" card. $2.95 fee and I can put the exact amount I need on it.

XanaDUer2

(10,638 posts)
15. I love Discover
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 06:18 PM
Apr 2021

no annual fee, free credit monitoring , my FICO score every month. Fabulous customer service. Easy to reach a human being. Polite and helpful everytime.

I use a Discover Miles card. I get points like crazy. You can use the amount you accrue for any travel, any airline, Uber, Amtrak, anything.

You're smart to monitor your statement!

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
23. Any reason why you don't have an online account with Chase?
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 02:15 PM
Apr 2021

you can check all your charges going back for ages.

also you can set up text messaging or email notifications to let you know the moment there's any charge at all.

I think Chase's interest rates are a ripoff but I don't carry a balance, so it's sort of a non issue.

But because they are the only card I have that notifies you the *moment* a charge is made to your account (no delay at all), they are my go to card, so I'm notified after every purchase, even those little 3.99 ones for Washington Post for example.

Also, I set up a daily text notification (you can set up daily emails too) informing me of my balance.

There are so many charges to our accounts these days with various recurring things on our credit cards regularly, that anyone who is online should set up alerts to protect themselves from fraud, or simply overlooking legitimate charges you actually made or were legitimately made on your behalf.

Good luck with this.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
24. The miles won't be dropped if you cancel the credit card.
Wed Apr 14, 2021, 02:35 PM
Apr 2021

They are two separate accounts. They may have an expiration date (if they do, you can find that as well as the terms on their AAdvantage website) but that expiration isn't tied to your credit card.



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