The cops did not need to draw a gun or a taser on that 20 yo kid

[Xipe Totec]

They knew who he was, where he lived, the car he was driving, etc.

All they had to do was call his mom and tell her to turn him in for his own sake.

When in doubt, appeal to the ultimate authority; the moms.

[uponit7771]

1. K&R, there should be a duty to deescalate and if LEOs violate it they don't have immunity

[Blue Owl]

2. K&R

Agree — everything in question (cause for pull-over, misdemeanour reasons for arrest warrant) merits no cause for even using a stun gun, much less a real gun

[brush]

3. Agreed. Poor policing seems to be rampant thoughtout the nation.

Training methods should be upgraded with an emphasize on the importance of deescalation. Educational requirements also need to be increased, perhaps to at lease an associates degree needed. And most of all psychological evaluations evaluations should become standard procedure to weed out those temperamentally unsuited for police work because now we're sending cops out onto the streets with guns and we don't know how they'll react in stressful situations and we don't find out until someone is dead, and too often it's an unarmed Black man.

[Progressive Jones]

9. I've often thought that policing should be more of a profession than it is.

Make it a higher education program, like you suggest. Way more training than there is now, especially in deescalating confrontational situations, community outreach (here's a novel idea -- bring back walking beat cops, in pairs.) Then, to make it worth the work/study, pay these higher level officers a higher salary, with more time away from the job to help with stress, etc. Currently, a lot of officers work hours and hours of overtime. This has to have a heavy impact, mentally and emotionally.

There should be more oversight and power in the area of discipline, and more intervention for repeat offenders. The police associations/unions seem to have too much power to obstruct in that area. I get it -- they're trying to protect their members, but too many red flags get swept under the carpet, and one day a known "problem child" with a history of misconduct goes way out of bounds, often with deadly results.

[KPN]

4. Oops. Not sure what or why, but posted to wrong thread.

[PrinceHakeem]

5. That is not how it works. Then the cops would be responsible for anything

he did. What if he sped off in the car and hit a pedestrian. Or one of the cops. He deserved to be tased. Didn't deserve to die over that.

[Xipe Totec]

7. That's not how it works.

If you flee, that's another charge against you.

If you commit other crimes after you flee, that's more charges against you.

You do not transfer responsibility to the cops by fleeing.

Frankly that's a really dumb concept.

By that logic, any cop could kill anybody at any time simply because they might commit some unspecified crime at some future time.

[PrinceHakeem]

12. We don't live in a fantasy world where cops just let u go once you try to get away

Once you try to get away, that charge is raised and you're considered dangerous. I'm not the biggest fan of cops, but lets not get crazy. The kid was wrong, and the cop was more wrong because she could have shot one of her partners. So she should be fired.

[Xipe Totec]

13. I think you're living in a predator fantasy, where fleeing is justification for murder. nt

[PrinceHakeem]

14. My god, this should not even be a debate. SMH

[Frasier Balzov]

6. Also, if you make someone exit their car

you must prevent them from re-entering the vehicle by moving them to the exterior front or rear.

But even before that, the first instruction to the driver is to turn off their engine. Was the engine still running when Wright jumped back in?

Botched case study for future training on multiple points.

[Iggo]

8. It's not about "need to." It's about "get to."

[Solomon]

10. They didn't need to draw their guns on George Floyd or Lt. Nazario either.

[Xipe Totec]

11. I don't think anybody would disagree with that.

George even asked for his momma.

What kind of hardened criminal does that?

Answer: None.