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superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 07:49 AM Apr 2021

BREAKING: FDA recommends pausing J&J vaccine due to blood clots

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/13/health/johnson-vaccine-pause-cdc-fda/index.html

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the US Food and Drug Administration are recommending that the United States pause the use of Johnson & Johnson's Covid-19 vaccine over six reported US cases of a "rare and severe" type of blood clot.

The six reported cases were among more than 6.8 million doses of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine administered in the United States. All six cases occurred among women ages of 18 and 48, and symptoms occurred 6 to 13 days after vaccination, according to a joint statement on Tuesday from Dr. Anne Schuchat, principal deputy director of the CDC and Dr. Peter Marks, director of the FDA's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research.


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Note: .0001%, six cases out of eight million, so take that for what it’s worth...
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FBaggins

(26,732 posts)
1. Seems like an unwarranted overreaction
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 09:01 AM
Apr 2021

More likely to scare people off from vaccination entirely. It sends the message "this one might be too dangerous to use... we really don't know"

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
2. That is an overreaction...we need to get as many vaccinated as possible...or the entire country
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 09:04 AM
Apr 2021

will end up like Michigan.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,329 posts)
3. It's amazing the vaccine effort has gone as well as it has with all these missteps.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 09:05 AM
Apr 2021

This will undermine trust in all the vaccines.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
6. I think it's a good move by the FDA
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 09:27 AM
Apr 2021

I was looking forward to getting the J&J vaccine, but the multiple mistakes made by the manufacturing facility combined with the blood clots makes it too much of a hurdle to overcome as far as public perception.

Six reported cases is very low, especially compared to the number of deaths and complications reported from the other 2 vaccines, but if the public begins to perceive that a vaccine is not safe and that the FDA is saying silent over it, trust will erode.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
8. Check the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting (VAERS) database
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 09:49 AM
Apr 2021

Again, the number of complications is extremely low when compared to the number of people who have received the vaccine. The average person is more likely to get into a car accident.

If interested in browsing the reported incidents, go to https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html
Scroll to bottom and choose Search CDC Wonder, agree to prompts, then filter down to covid-19 vaccine. Add other filters and groupings as needed.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
9. Deaths happening after vaccination doesn't mean deaths happening due to vaccination.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 09:51 AM
Apr 2021

Especially considering we concentrated on the elderly for our early vaccination efforts.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
10. True, but it's important to document, nonetheless.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 10:01 AM
Apr 2021

The database has a lot of tools to keep the results in context, including the ability to filter preexisting conditions, medications the individuals were on and noting prior reactions to other types of vaccines as well.

winstars

(4,220 posts)
11. After the Baltimore plant issue, there is very little J&J around anyway for several weeks.
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 11:07 AM
Apr 2021

Look for them to clear J&J very soon and then it will be available...

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
12. The pill causes clots too. Why no outrage?
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 11:14 AM
Apr 2021
The pill causes clots too. Why no outrage?

Suggesting Australians “maintain perspective” on the safety of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, the Prime Minister reminded us it’s safer than the contraceptive pill.

Just a day later, the government decided the risk posed by the AstraZeneca vaccine was simply too great. The risk of clotting – from four to six people in every one million – has eliminated AstraZeneca as the jab of preference for under-50s.

SNIP

In contrast to the incredibly low risk of blood clotting with the AstraZeneca jab, the Australian Department of Health concluded that hormonal contraceptives caused clots for between 5 and 12 women per 10,000 or about 500-1200 cases per million. Varying amounts of hormones in different brands of the pill cause this deviation, but even taking the lower estimate of 500 cases, clotting is much more likely to occur from the contraceptive pill than the AstraZeneca vaccine. While blood clots caused by the pill are not usually fatal, they still represent a significant side effect that women are asked to bear.



https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-pill-causes-clots-too-why-no-outrage-20210410-p57i3w.html

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
13. This is the right call. The vaccine hesitancy is real and shit like this exacerbates that
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 11:20 AM
Apr 2021

This isn't the time to fuck around with trust issues.

Pull it. Evaluate it. Maybe it's only a vax for men over 50. Whatever it takes to ensure there's 100% trust or we all lose

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