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JoeOtterbein

(7,699 posts)
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 09:32 PM Apr 2021

Dem pollsters acknowledge 'major errors' in 2020 polling

Politico

Five of the biggest Democratic firms have signed onto a joint statement that seeks to explain what went wrong in last year’s election.

By STEVEN SHEPARD

04/13/2021 04:31 AM EDT

A group of top Democratic Party pollsters are set to release a public statement Tuesday acknowledging “major errors” in their 2020 polling — errors that left party officials stunned by election results that failed to come close to expectations in November.

In an unusual move, five of the party’s biggest polling firms have spent the past few months working together to explore what went wrong last year and how it can be fixed. It’s part of an effort to understand why — despite data showing Joe Biden well ahead of former President Donald Trump, and Democrats poised to increase their House majority — the party won the presidency, the Senate and House by extremely narrow margins.

“Twenty-twenty was an ‘Oh, s---' moment for all of us,” said one pollster involved in the effort, who was granted anonymity to discuss the process candidly. “And I think that we all kinda quickly came to the point that we need to set our egos aside. We need to get this right."

That’s about where the answers end. The collaboration’s first public statement acknowledges that their industry “saw major errors and failed to live up to our own expectations.” But the memo also underscores the limits of the polling autopsy, noting that “no consensus on a solution has emerged.”

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Dem pollsters acknowledge 'major errors' in 2020 polling (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Apr 2021 OP
Happened in 2016 too. Lots to learn. Nt JanMichael Apr 2021 #1
They need to refund their fees if they are that wrong MichMan Apr 2021 #2
yeah... this blow my mind...... Takket Apr 2021 #3
Cunningham blew it with his sexting shite & Gideon got hammered as a carpetbagger from Rhode Island Celerity Apr 2021 #5
Junk calls and push polls Klaralven Apr 2021 #4

Takket

(21,529 posts)
3. yeah... this blow my mind......
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 10:37 PM
Apr 2021

Cunningham led almost every poll.......

https://electionprojection.com/north-carolina-senate-election.php

So did Gideon

https://electionprojection.com/maine-senate-election.php

i also don't know how the polling firms account for rethugs lying to pollsters but i think that's a major source of the errors.

the article highlights the biggest challenge of this... accounting for how drumpf's presence poisoned the well so to speak, and how to account for him going forward if he does NOT run in 2024.

you can count me among the naive people that thought we had a chance in these races. i thought we would lose texas but it would be VERY close. it wasn't.

Celerity

(43,135 posts)
5. Cunningham blew it with his sexting shite & Gideon got hammered as a carpetbagger from Rhode Island
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 10:58 PM
Apr 2021

by Collins campaign. Manchin endorsing Collins certainly did not help, it allowed her to falsely claim herself as this great pragmatic slightly conservative bi-partisan moderate Maine Senator, when she is just a RW stooge in 98% of the big votes. Racism personally hurt Gideon too (as she is half east Indian and half Armenian).

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
4. Junk calls and push polls
Tue Apr 13, 2021, 10:47 PM
Apr 2021

People get a lot of spam calls these days, and many do not answer if they don't recognize the name or number.

Plus, how do you know at the outset whether it is a legit pollster or a push poll? Or a call that asks a few questions and then asks for a donation?

They probably are now making 20 calls to get one survey completed.

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