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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums*"Woke" Company Alert*: The pages of the NYT and Wapo this morning:


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Diamond_Dog
(40,783 posts)Are they also pledging to halt all donations to Republican legislators and conservative super PACs?
demmiblue
(39,846 posts)because it is probably going to make Moscow Mitch squirm.
wnylib
(26,239 posts)without doing anything to back it up. They are playing both sides.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)of running wild, looting and pillaging this countries people, they feel they need to make nice and pretend that they are the friends of the people.......
Have you seen them lower the price of Insulin? Hell no Have you seen them reinvest profits in their companies infrastructure, rather than off shoring it? Hell no Have you seen them hiring people at decent livable wages hell no
Fuck them, don't fall for it. ...............They are merely trying to regroup after being a millimeter away from their prize goal:
A Corporate Fascist Tyranny..............United Corporations of America...........
pandr32
(14,307 posts)There is no point to just show-boating for publicity with such an important matter, After all, corporations are people, too.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,710 posts)Its a first warning.
Get some Republicans to stop and think for a moment. "Would they dare to defund me?"
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,484 posts)They'll write off the cost and continue donating to RW Republican-supporting PACs.
If Bezos, for instance, cared about democracy, with creative use of a fraction of his fortune, he could practically guarantee that passage of the For The People Act. It's not exactly democratic to have billionaires having so much influence on elections, but he could balance the scales against the RW money influence.
BoomaofBandM
(1,957 posts)I also would like to know how their ceos and boards and other higher ups donate politically.
Escurumbele
(4,102 posts)these crazy laws are reversed...
Stick & stones may break my bones but words will never hurt...Maybe not "sticks & stones", but we know how much the mighty dollar weighs on the republican thugs.
benfranklin1776
(7,022 posts)Political contributions are not. Also, if they were sincere, then then should pressure their Republican recipients of their largesse to let the For the People Act to come to a vote in the Senate.
Alpeduez21
(2,062 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(11,438 posts)Republicans know this is all for show so they have every reason to totally ignore it. These CEO's aren't doing and won't be doing anything meaningful to support voters' rights, they're just saying the right words in public and expecting a great big gold star for it. Bur behind the scenes what is really changing?
Captain Zero
(8,936 posts)The laws just say you can't bring water to people. What about free water stations. With a few lawn chairs to sit in a couple minutes. And yes, porta-johns too.
Some things need to be tested in the next primaries so we can have ACLU suits to test the laws in the courts.
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,438 posts)They make these purely PR gestures?
NJCher
(43,298 posts)If you read the story behind this in the NY Times, there are quite a number of very prominent African American CEOs who put this together. I have to respect the time and effort they put into this. It took a lot of work to get this far. Maybe you've never done any organizing like this but I know from experience that it's not easy.
Furthermore, speaking from the standpoint of communication and psychology, there is a the no small matter of cognitive dissonance. It simply means that you cannot hold two contradictory thoughts or positions at the same time. Now according to all you cynics on this thread, these people are just adding their names for PR value while they will do an end run and donate to republicans when it's all said and done. The problem with that theory is that they've committed themselves in black and white and if they do they are documented hypocrites.
PortTack
(35,820 posts)Their very being is at stake here
demmiblue
(39,846 posts)Food for thought, indeed. And a wonderful reminder to give credit to the African American CEOs for their hard work in launching this effort.
ShazzieB
(22,721 posts)Sometimes the cynicism here at DU is too much for me. I understand where it comes from, but it's just so damed depressing. Healthy skepticism is one thing, but it can be taken too far. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and good news really is good news.
Call me a cockeyed optimist if you want, but I just can't get on board with the tendency to automatically assume the worst Every. Damned. Time.
Thanks for giving us a different and much more positive way to look at this!
Collimator
(2,134 posts)Cynicism has value when it is part of an engaged thinking process. As a default perspective, it can actually stop people from giving much thought to anything.
I hear people in my household saying things like, "You can't trust the news media, etc., etc. . ." But then they make comments about issues and situations that are biased and judgmental. Clearly, they are getting their ideas and opinions from somewhere.
Take the issue of resistance to the Covid vaccines within Black communities. The Tuskegee syphilis study was a horrible violation of human rights. It's important that people learn the facts of what happened and cast a cynical eye on the medical profession and its treatment of marginalized people. And it's also important for people to learn what they can about the current scientific consensus and accurately weigh the risks of refusing the vaccine.
And the point about cynicism and depression is spot on. There is a story over at the Huffington Post about the role that optimism played in resolving the HIV crisis.
I know that corporations exist to make profits and aren't generally concerned with making a better world. But those profits come from our participation in their business outreach. In this situation, hardcore cynicism is tantamount to giving up our power altogether.
So, unleavened cynicism is like throwing up your hands in exasperation over the dismal state of the world, then letting them dangle at your side and doing nothing else instead of lifting those hands again to address the task at hand. . . Getting very preachy and possibly pedantic here. . . need to shut up.
(Love the IDIC symbol, btw.)
littlemissmartypants
(34,033 posts)For the acronym police
Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations
IDIC was an acronym for Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations, the basis of Vulcan philosophy, celebrating the vast array of variables in the universe.
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IDIC | Memory Alpha | Fandom
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/IDIC
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ShazzieB
(22,721 posts)Star Trek, and especially Mr. Spock, was one of the things that got me through my geeky teen years, and it means a lot to me!
Collimator
(2,134 posts)Mae Jemison, Whoopie Goldberg and MLK saw that. I'm proud to be a Trekkie and that vision is why I prefer Trek to Wars.
littlemissmartypants
(34,033 posts)Don't let them steal your joy, ShazzieB. The "Ignore" function is recommended for the repeat offenders. I didn't use it when I first got here but when I did start using it and discovered the difference it makes in content, I became hooked.
Stay encouraged.
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50 Shades Of Blue
(11,438 posts)Voting has been being suppressed for years! It's just way more blatant now. So even though it wasn't exactly a secret before, now it's becoming a major issue and product boycotts are in the air. These people's only concern is the bottom line and they're looking out for it by publishing - gasp! - ads.
They aren't afraid of being seen as hypocrites! Do Republicans fear that? Hell no. They are utterly shameless. So are big corporations. Their only fear is not raking in as much money as they can. Behind the scenes they still want the things only Republicans will give them - lower taxes, protection from consumer lawsuits, etc., etc.
And no, I can't read the article because I don't subscribe to the NYT.
NJCher
(43,298 posts)your scenario might have a little plausibility if they were simple minded crooks, but they're not. They're not all republicans,either, and many of them have demonstrated more than "rake in the cash" thinking. Warren Buffett, for example.
I've worked with many CEOs and I can tell you they have a great deal of confidence in themselves. They are putting themselves on the line in print, which is no small thing.
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,438 posts)overthrow the last election.
https://www.democracydocket.com/2021/04/hundreds-of-corporations-publish-toothless-voting-rights-ad/
NJCher
(43,298 posts)It's so much easier to let others do your thinking rather than do it all on your own.
So easy to pan everything. No thinking, no new emotions to deal with. Easy peasy.
50 Shades Of Blue
(11,438 posts)If that means, according to you, that I'm not thinking for myself, I'll consider that an attempt to shame me from expressing a different opinion from yours. But I have every right to do that and not be shamed and belittled and baited for it because you don't agree.
I evaluated what Elias said versus the history (example: Link to tweet
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uponit7771
(93,532 posts)jalan48
(14,914 posts)hatrack
(64,997 posts)Plenty, I'd wager.
HootieMcBoob
(3,830 posts)If they are then they need to either convince the chamber to switch from lobbying against HR1 to lobbying for or withdraw from the chamber withholding all funding. The US Chamber of Commerce has been a powerful lobbying organization against progressive policies for generations.
KS Toronado
(23,730 posts)So they'll keep buying our stuff & not blackball us? wink wink, follow the money.
stopdiggin
(15,549 posts)corporations recognize a need for balance between profit and PR. Serve the stockholder and the bottom line without being seen as 'evil.' (and the wise voter/consumer sees, and always assumes, the compromise) Still -- a corporate culture that is even modestly engaged with social and societal concerns -- is better than one that is completely blind to them? Racism? LGBTQ? Maybe they've done some good?
By the way -- this is a pretty easy one, in that HUGE majorities of American are in favor of easy and accessible voting. And say so every time they are asked. So -- it doesn't cost much to get on board with that.
KS Toronado
(23,730 posts)dianaredwing
(406 posts)going to keep buying stuff anyway, for the most part. I am certainly not self-sufficient. Some people will note the names in the papers and keep up with the individuals who signed this and will chastise them for hypocrisy when it appears. But, face it, most people don't even read the papers and most who get their news on line get it from a source they already agree with. This won't change a lot of minds, EXCEPT for those in government and I assume that is who they (the signers) are aiming the ads at. It is basically saying to the pols that I don't want my name openly associated with yours if you openly support voter suppression. Naturally, the sneaky behind the scenes stuff will still happen, but it says to me that if you as a pol decide to support voter suppression I will not support you and if you decide to come to your senses I will reward you because I have a verifiable reason to do so.
COL Mustard
(8,301 posts)For those companies not on the list, why not?
NJCher
(43,298 posts)explains that. Some said they'd already said it once, felt no need to say it twice.
Chase and Jamie Dimon said they support it but didn't want to commit to saying in the ad. Maybe aware of cognitive dissonance theory, as I write about upthread.
Here's a link to the story:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/business/ceos-corporate-america-voting-rights.html
AZ8theist
(7,470 posts)The Trumptards want DICTATORSHIP.
With the stupidest motherfucker in human history in charge.
Good on the CEOs for trying, but until they stop funding Repukes, nothing will happen.
Takket
(23,747 posts)Drumpf international
Goya
My pillow
Hobby lobby
Barilla
bucolic_frolic
(55,446 posts)I was in a national closeout supermarket 2 weeks ago and they had GOYA canned beans - 79 or 89 cents, and it's all sitting there undisturbed. Regional super same thing, with more and more shelf space. Time was you never saw Goya discounted, only promos were maybe 20 cents off twice a year, and the retail was ... $1.19? $1.29?
I'm guessing the company won't admit what's happening because they don't have to - privately held, and
this is one of the most successful boycotts ever.
SWBTATTReg
(26,318 posts)an apology, a take back, something of remorse, etc. My Pillow is going down the same way too.
Thanks for the heads up news on the goya boycott.
sarchasm
(1,314 posts)gab13by13
(32,507 posts)Talk is cheap.
littlemissmartypants
(34,033 posts)Maybe their ad rates were too high...
For the record, I'm halfway joking.
bucolic_frolic
(55,446 posts)"all of us" is a best idea. "everybody's cheating because we're not winning" is transparently private interest of ideologues, crooks, liars, cheats, and vested monied interests.
dlk
(13,289 posts)Until then, nothing will be any different.
joetheman
(1,450 posts)on unnecessary price creep for consumers. It is largely their call on inflationary behaviors. Their profits are STILL at record levels despite the pandemic.
speak easy
(12,598 posts)Suss. Very Suss, if you ask me. Just say no to socialism
global1
(26,507 posts)If timing is everything - Is it time to mount a campaign to overturn Citizens United?
I know that the Repugs like the money they get from the Corps - but isn't this a chance to have both the Corps & the Repugs (i.e., Moscow Mitch, Hawley, Fox News, Laura Ingram, etc) to put their money where their mouth is?
Would we be able to garner some bipartisan support?
It is one way to keep the Corps out of politics - isn't it.
lark
(26,088 posts)Until I hear that none of them are donating to the anti-American repugs who tried to tear down our constitution to install their favored guy, I call bullshit. Sorry, corporate America, you earned our scorn and disbelief. Prove me wrong - Please.
Deb
(3,744 posts)romana
(765 posts)But they need to walk the walk and not donate to anyone supporting voter suppression or the Big Lie. Full stop.
ecstatic
(35,088 posts)whose entire county has been disenfranchised by Georgia's qop. One of my fears is that the qop's intimidation/shakedown tactics will be successful and all the companies will fall in line and STFU. It's comforting to know that that has not happened... yet.
It's sickening to hear ignorant people talk about how Georgia's law is better than New York's as it allows no excuse absentee voting. How does that help me when the qop has the power to fire my county's election officials and replace them with qop flunkies who will throw out my absentee vote? I never had to worry about that before. My best bet now is to brave the 5 hour lines in the hopes of finding a working machine that will properly record my vote. Same with my parents, who are both 65 and older. It's impossible for their signatures to match their driver's licenses (which were signed using faulty electronic pens at the DMV).
Ligyron
(8,006 posts)Because to me, an admittedly a a non legal type, ridiculous laws like no water, etc. seem unconstitutional, unamerican, downright unfair and quite obviously designed to deprive certain citizens of their sacred right to vote.
For any fair minded judge to rule otherwise would seem impossible.
SWBTATTReg
(26,318 posts)verify that voters are who they say they are. Over time, signatures do change, among other things, in my case, after working in IT and systems design (computer hardware/software), for almost 4 decades, I can barely write w/ my hand w/ a pencil or pen, my writing is that bad.
This is one of the most ridiculous and unrealistic proofs of voters that I can think of.
blm
(114,699 posts)meadowlander
(5,141 posts)Serious value-added industries aren't going to locate someplace where they can't recruit and retain minority talent.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,480 posts)Thats where the rubber hits the road...
Wounded Bear
(64,446 posts)Thunderbeast
(3,827 posts)Came out yesterday against federal election reform legislation.
These folks need to tell their lobbyists to get on the same page.
BradBo
(1,038 posts)Unless they put their money where their mouth is and dont contribute to repugs.
RainCaster
(13,779 posts)GOP, any PACs, or individual candidates. They must all starve for funding in order to get a clue.
geardaddy
(25,392 posts)American Airlines
United Airlines
and Lyft is on there, but not Uber.
stopdiggin
(15,549 posts)(I'll admit to being pretty uninformed, but ... NEVER had a great opinion ...)
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)If you really believe in Democracy then fight for it companies...it is now or never!
seta1950
(968 posts)They need to support congress to pass the bill.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Lets see if they put their money where their mouth is.
Blue Owl
(59,332 posts)
BobTheSubgenius
(12,237 posts)At the moment, largely symbolic, but if they start using threats that have teeth, the GOP can't help but listen. Imagine a R campaign with 20% or less of their normal warchest. They can't risk that.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(10,427 posts)Can't imagine the people who need to see this reading newspapers.
Midnight Writer
(25,557 posts)Many also pledged to withhold donations after Jan. 6. Then after the show was over, they went back to "business as usual".
SheltieLover
(81,250 posts)Restraint in campaign donations to pukes for starters.
Even donate to canddates who support voting rights! Gasp!
What a concept, right?
Rocknation
(45,007 posts)To Appease Biden Into Not Rolling Back Decades' Worth of Tax Cuts
rocktiviity
soldierant
(9,360 posts)People are commenting as though it's a bad thing. It isn't. It may not be anywhere nearly enough. It may have ulterior motives behind it. But it still needs to be done.
BigmanPigman
(55,315 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,700 posts)I'm sure it's a mixed bag.
calimary
(90,332 posts)Perhaps the worm is turning - several hundred times.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)maliaSmith
(212 posts)Let's see if they really mean it. Are they still giving money to the GOP who voted in many states to attack voting rights? If the answer is Yes, then then I'm not buying it. Toyota said they don't support attacking voters rights, but then turned around and gave money to GOP who voted to overturn our sacred elections. Home Depot and UPS have also not come out strongly against the racist voting new law. UPS and Home Depot are huge GOP supporters with UPS behind the GOP's attempts to destroy our Post Office. They want all the PO business and GOP (Trump) really helped them by installing corrupt DeJoy at PO.
tclambert
(11,194 posts)Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)littlemissmartypants
(34,033 posts)I think I'll reserve judgment until then.
Great post, demmiblue. Thanks.
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riversedge
(81,175 posts)Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)morons are an unstable element that is bad for business, democracy, children, and everything else, everywhere.
Any reasonable person who watches footage of these enraged, vacuous unfortunates attacking the Capitol can see, and hear, that there is something seriously wrong with them.
No reasonable person wants to be governed by these unstable, reality challenged nutjobs who are passing voting laws that will lead to a minority of these mean, incompetent, angry, bumbling douchebags controlling their lives.
I'll take every ally I can get in the struggle against Qpublican Idiocracy.
FakeNoose
(41,973 posts)Does anybody know if it's posted, either on DU or elsewhere?
I'd like to bookmark the info and check back in a few months.