Andrew Yang tried to join a Duante Wright protest in NYC...

[brooklynite]

Link to tweet

(he's recently advocated for more Police resources to address Asian hate crimes)

[AZSkiffyGeek]

1. As much as he annoys me

This reminds me of the Occupy people in Atlanta refusing to meet with John Lewis

[Cal Carpenter]

12. That's some revisionist history.

Some of the group wanted to have him speak right away. Others were trying to stick with the effort of prioritizing the most marginalized individuals' voices. John Lewis agreed that, as someone who regularly had the floor of the House, he would gladly defer the mic.

[lame54]

28. He was at the mic...

And the majority voted him down on the spot

[Cal Carpenter]

13. Not to mention comparing Andrew Yang to John Lewis

Even obliquely.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

14. I'm not comparing Andrew Yang to John Lewis

I'm comparing the assholes who yelled at Andrew Yang to the assholes who wouldn't let Lewis speak.

[brush]

2. The organizers were wrong in how they treated him.

Apparently they felt he was doing it for publicity for his mayoral campaign but the rude and unkind way they treated him is horrid considering how POCs should all be united in fighting racism against both Black Americans and Asian Americans.

That was handled poorly and that group needs to get a better, more experience spokesperson...one with some sense.

[Jirel]

5. Do you hear yourself?

What could be ruder, more unkind, and MORE DISRESPECTFUL to activists and Daunte Wright, than to use activists for a publicity shot? There is nothing wrong with rejecting a candidate who doesn't agree with them, from their rally. It was handled just fine by the organizers. Yang and his team are the ones who need to do some growing up and soul searching about what they stand for, and whether that's compatible with the goals of the people who he needs to get elected.

[brush]

9. Again, POCs should work together to fight anti-black, anti-Asian...

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anti-Latinx and anti-Native American racism. Yang should've been quietly taken aside and asked to leave. Rudely shouting out for him to leave certainly doesn't foster good relations between the Black and Asian communities. The man was trying to be an ally, which admittedly might have gotten some pub for his campaign but he did it quietly, was not demanding to speak or anything, didn't arrive with a posse.

What happened to diplomacy? We certainly want Asians to come to BLM events.

Yeah, I hear myself.

[JI7]

19. What I think they should have done is put him on the spot and welcomed him

and then laid out why they disagree with him on x and why he should support y instead . The more public the better since at the very least they can get that message out .

This would have put the focus on the issue and Yang and others running for Mayor would be asked about it also.

[brush]

21. I'm totally in agreement with welcoming him. Marginalized people...

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should work in solidarity with each other. And Yang was there to ally with them. He was not there in opposition so what would confronting him about anything do. By being there he was to show support...and admittedly get a little pub for himself, but not in an obtrusive way. The man was a major candidate for president and current candidate for mayor. IMO being against him being there makes no sense.

And Black activists should also ally with Asian activists protesting anti-Asian racists.

[RobinA]

27. Do You Know People?

Different groups are never going to work together for very long. Asians and blacks don't get along any better than whites and blacks, whites and Asians, Natives and Asians, blacks and Natives... We're hardwired to distrust the "other." For reasons that are less relevant today than back in the cave days, but hardwired is a tough nut to crack.

Do I think there's nothing that can be done? No. Is the current us against them drumbeat going to help matters? Nope, it makes it worse.

[brush]

33. Hmmmm? In the BLM protests last summer all ethnic groups were there so please.

You seem to be advocating never working with other people. Do ya know anything about the civil rights movement? Do ya know who supported the Black Panther Party?

Good luck with turning away allies.

[RobinA]

37. I'm Not Advocating Anything,

I'm making a statement about human nature. You seemed surprised that two different "marginalized" groups weren't acting together. I was pointing to an aspect of animal nature that makes that unlikely for any length of time. Yes, I know a bit about the Civil Rights movement. Some people from different groups worked together for the greater good for awhile. Good start! How's that working these days? Everybody all friendly now?

[brush]

38. Hahahahaha. The civil rights movement was successful...

and accomplished quite a bit with allies working together. If BLM and other activists accomplish as much they will have done well.

You don't know what you don't know.

With the republicans split into factions now's the time to work with allies to work together and take advantage.

That's how it happens in history. No one says alliances stay together forever. Going it alone gets you nowhere. We'd all be speaking German it it weren't for allies working together.

[JI7]

39. Groups are working together better now than during 60s civil rights movements

One huge difference is MOST of the minority groups DO work with and support each other. During civil rights movement this was not the case with most whites being opposed.

Another thing is many of our communities are mixed .

This was ONE group that does not represent most of the black community. As the post at the top says these type of people even opposed John Lewis.

Also one of the reasons Yang is leading is race for Mayor is becsuse of support from black voters.

[mainer]

35. Did he show up with media?

I heard he didn't have any cameras with him.

Do we all need an invitation to show up at rallies in support of BLM? Should we just stay home unless we get a golden ticket of approval?

[JohnSJ]

3. When the Mayor of Minneapolis came out against what happened to George Floyd, and one of the

protesters told him to “get the fuck out of here”, because he wasn’t for defunding the police, but police reform, this reminds me of that

In my view those protesters telling Yang to get out, does not help their cause at all, and on a national scale, this only helps the republicans in politically

[Jirel]

4. Once again, someone fails to see the point.

Activists. Get. To. Set. Their. Agenda.
Activists. Get. To. Reject. Politicians. There. For. A. Photo. Op. Who. Don't. Support. Their. Agenda.

THE END.

You can whinge on forever about why it was not nice and politically hurts Democrats. However, Democrats are not owed their voices, their images, their support, or their votes. Want those lovely votes? Then our politicians are going to have to either convince activists to change their demands for good reason (and I don't mean "because Dems want a broad base of votes and would prefer a more centrist approach for political gain&quot , or change their platforms to adopt activist stances.

That's how politics works. Stop asking people, especially people of color, to quit demanding change or yet again put change on the back burner.

[JI7]

7. Activists whose only goal is being an activist ? How about actual policy changes ?

Andrew Yang is a person of color also and his asking for more police resources was specifically to stop attacks against asians happening right now.

[Jirel]

17. Yes, ANDREW YANG, how about some policy change?

You apparently want to join the “blame the activists for politicians doing nothing” chorus.

Yang has never created a policy change in his life. He has never held office. He has only grudgingly condescended to run for Mayor of NYC after failing his presidential bid, which he thought would make a great entry into politics. I’m not even sure he counts yet as a politician, having never won an election.

I invite him to win a seat, any seat, and prove he can do something good with it. Until then, it’s all talk and no action. These activists have zero incentive to ally themselves with his various hopes but no results.

[JI7]

18. lame

[Jirel]

23. HE is being lame.

“I’m a candidate who has never won office and who carpet-bagged to run for mayor of your city, who disagrees with your demands on the street. But I want to get a photo op in your protest so I can advertise that I’m on your side so people who agree with you and disagree with me might still vote for me.”

That is as lame as it gets.

[brooklynite]

26. There are many reasons Yang should not be Mayor: "carpetbagging" isn't one of them.

1. He has a residence in NYC.

2. NY was happy to elect one Robert Kennedy, carpetbagger, as Senator in the 1960s.

[dsc]

31. and Hillary Clinton in 2000

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36. Agreed. There are some posters here who don't know what they don't know.

[Demsrule86]

8. sure they do...but consider occupy is now gone. Maybe they should have made better choices

As a Democratic activist I tried to work with them and found it nearly impossible. There was no leadership...and they did not welcome others. If a movement doesn't grow, it disappears.

[speak easy]

20. Occupy had few concrete demands.

[Jirel]

25. Only someone who didn't work with Occupy would claim that.

That’s the right wing media narrative. Sorry you bought that.

There were many concrete demands, many of which were made at the local level in cities by attending city council meetings and lobbying.

There were local/regional/national campaigns to pay down medical debt and address predatory banking, many of which had real impact.

There were projects to house the homeless, numerous ones that did so with various levels of success.

There were projects to better feed the needy and homeless, and provide mutual aid, many of which were successful at least until the raids became draconian.

There were good efforts made to help DACA kids and immigrants.

City by city, these were just starting points. Occupy wasn’t crushed because it was a nuisance joke. It was crushed because poor people and homeless people and immigrants were really organizing and helping each other to get their needs addressed.

[speak easy]

30. "Occupy Everything - Demand nothing"

https://theoccupiedtimes.org/?p=6448

[brooklynite]

32. "There were projects"

The problem with Occupy is that it chose to withdraw from the political discussion, essentially arguing that Democrats were as bad as Republicans. It's Zuccoti Park encampment (right outside my wife's office) essentially tried to become its own independent commune (with leaderless meetings and twinkle fingers). And kudos to its members for volunteer activities, but the small pool of activists never actually tried to change the economic policies it started out protesting.

[cinematicdiversions]

11. Activists get to be racist a-holes...

Doesn't mean it is a look or we should support such racism.

[JohnSJ]

15. I am NOT ASKING THEM TO ANYTHING. I AM MAKING A COMMENT

you don't like my comment, fine, but don't go TELLING ME that I am "asking" someone to do something when I am NOT

and by the way, my wife is a person of color. She is Chinese. It's not good to make assumptions about anyone

[brush]

16. Demand change and ally with other marginalized people.

It's not that complicated. The quickest way to kill a movement is to reject allies and help.

Read the other posts on this thread.

[RobinA]

29. Activists Can Do Whatever They Want

and is legal. But if they want to change things instead of just making a lot of noise, they have to do what will make change happen.

[JI7]

6. I don't think he would be a good choice for mayor but this was

just a shitty thing to do. I don't think people who do this are ever really interested in actual policy.

He IS a leading candidate for a major office. Why not use the chance to discuss issues with him ?

[FSogol]

10. Exactly. I'm sure the next Republican Mayor will be happy to consider their issues.

[AZProgressive]

22. I'm not a fan of Yang

He was pushing the libertarian version of UBI and he was the only Democratic candidate without a platform for disabilities.

If he is elected NYC mayor he will probably run for President again like all the recent NYC mayors ran for President.

[LexVegas]

24. Idiots. nt

[mainer]

34. And if he didn't show up, they'd be yelling at him too

Don't show up: "You don't SUPPORT US!"

Does show up: "You're using us as a PHOTO OP!"

He can't win either way.

It's upsetting to see all this black on Asian hate. Whether you like or hate Yang, HE WAS THERE. Unlike any GOPers.