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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think the former guy should be prosecuted for attempting to overthrow the election.
I think that every Representative and every Senator who voted to acquit him in the second impeachment trial should be prosecuted.
Every one of them is a traitor to the US. Ill always regard them as traitors.
I leave to your imagination what would have happened to them if they tried this in Saudi Arabia or Russia, if their coup was unsuccessful.
I know, aint gonna happen, Im living in la-la land.
I guess thats my rant for today.
MyOwnPeace
(17,593 posts)You deserve to do so especially because YOU ARE CORRECT!
Bayard
(29,962 posts)doc03
(39,117 posts)in murdering the VP and Congress? I think it would have led to a civil war.
And, the longer it goes without even an investigation, the angrier I get. We should be demanding this.
doc03
(39,117 posts)to overturn the election should have been ran out of DC and tried for sedition.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)It's here and now. It's in it's 20th year.
Presidents A. Gore and H. Clinton still lack inauguration and the president of the confederacy lives in semi-retirement on the beach in S. Florida.
What's missing? Battle flags, got 'em. Battle fields, got them too. Casualties, yep. War propaganda, it's everywhere. Social disruption, depends on where you live as to how much you're affected.
doc03
(39,117 posts)avoid hearing loud mouth assholes trying to start a political argument every day.
Boomerproud
(9,326 posts)I'm either getting forgetful or something but I don't remember discourse being so crass and angry. The folks I knew tried hard to be pleasant.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 15, 2021, 04:27 PM - Edit history (1)
I am a QOP traitor like, you know, QOP traitors are. It's just plain racial profiling. Black people suspect I'm QOP and white people assume it. But oddly enough, in the old south people don't bring it up just right off the bat like they might back in Western Kentucky. I suspect it's a remnant of the beatings so many have gotten and the responsive circumspection their society has undergone over the last 160 years.
doc03
(39,117 posts)People will try and make conversation not like what about this weather. It is did you hear what Biden is doing now or something about BLM. You can't talk to them because they go by alternative facts, the truth is lies 1984.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)jalan48
(14,914 posts)Firestorm49
(4,558 posts)notinkansas
(1,318 posts)there remains the precedent set by the former guy that such things can be done without consequences. That does not bode well for the future.
Jay25
(437 posts)public rage.
ffr
(23,431 posts)Just because they're afraid of a needle, they put all of us in harms way. They should be forced to wear a label marking them as a public danger, but we mostly already know who they are by blue, white and red stripes.
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Useful idiots deserve to get what's coming to them for endangering us all and giving aid to adversaries.
bdamomma
(69,589 posts)let him die in prison like Bernie Madoff.
bucolic_frolic
(55,441 posts)The Medicis dealt with insurrectionists. So did the British in Canada, though it was a minor incident. The French and the Bolsheviks, not so much. They yielded to new systems of government.
A sovereign State that fails to stand up for itself isn't much of a State. Its sovereignty laws leak.
Ford_Prefect
(8,632 posts)national or local government. They've been headed in that direction since Nixon was deposed. The rise of Reagan and Gingrich was predicated on dismantling federal authority and civil rights of all kinds: unions, abortion rights, fair employment, healthcare, education, safe water and air, freedom from religion and so-on.
Ever since there has been an increasingly sharper right turn into tyranny of culture and law by the GOP. Enabled by the ultra-rich here and abroad, U.S. and Multinational corporate greed, and certain foreign interested parties, including Russian Mafia, RW Israeli and Saudi governments. Aided and abetted by well-heeled leaders in the Business of Religious Exclusion (BRE) who like their corporate brethren saw opportunities to corner their respective markets and exert significant political muscle.
The Tea Party was launched as an insurgent response to Obama and Democratic governance on many levels by some of the same people deeply involved in fomenting Gingrich's Contract on America. At its core is the same defiance of democratic ideals and federal principles of law as we see in the many GOP state legislatures and Governor's mansions now dedicated to overturning the right to vote and women's control of their own bodies, to say nothing of eviscerating public lands, or denigrating public health and putting the nation if not the world at risk.
To be clear, the GOP has no constructive goals or purpose in government except to destroy federal regulation and to loot the treasury in aid of those who see our planet and economy as sources of personal wealth to abuse as they wish. They are a plague of locusts and a cancer upon our republic. IMO they should be torn out of government root and bough and imprisoned on an island where the tides are rising. Then let them figure out how constructive engagement works.
SheltieLover
(81,249 posts)dlk
(13,288 posts)For everyone else, however... Think of what the response would have been if the insurrection was instigated by people of color, instead of the former guy.
Ford_Prefect
(8,632 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)That would be a life sentence for many of them. We need to get this done, or we are done.
SheltieLover
(81,249 posts)Pepsidog
(6,365 posts)a look. Infuriating. Actually Nevilledog posted it here yesterday.
[link: https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkbe4b/the-capitol-riot-through-cell-phone-videos-terrifying?fbclid=IwAR07mv-xD7Luxj6AXiVPzt7s8DMfdXC5-QTACSJ7JeNQhwn144P3R_78m_4
ScratchCat
(2,750 posts)Because a con man tried to convince a bunch of idiots that The Constitution doesn't say what it clearly says and that someone - the VP or Congress - can just change the certified election results if one candidate wants them to. Those idiots found out that the VP and Congress can't change the vote count as certified by The States and this kind of nonsense will never happen again.
And lastly, I know its fun to make the riot seem like something it wasn't... but if they had really tried to "overthrow" the government, they would have been mowed down by automatic gunfire. Hell, a bunch of people were one breached door away from being gunned down by police and security.
No, the idiots had their "fun", and it ruined many of their lives now that they are facing felony charges. It wont happen again.
BComplex
(9,940 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,722 posts)Traitors who go unpunished try again.