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Nevilledog

(51,006 posts)
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 10:38 AM Apr 2021

Yesterday in Minnesota, white man fleeing police, violent attack, not shot or tased



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Fifty Shades of Whey
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Apr 15, 2021
This happened yesterday in Minnesota, the suspect was a 61-year-old white man fleeing police. He wasn't shot or tased.



Fifty Shades of Whey
@davenewworld_2
"Hutchinson police say a 61-year-old man is in custody after allegedly dragging an officer with his vehicle while simultaneously striking him with a hammer following a dispute about face masks at a Menards store."
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/04/14/police-man-drags-hutchinson-officer-with-car-hits-him-with-hammer-after-face-mask-dispute/
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Yesterday in Minnesota, white man fleeing police, violent attack, not shot or tased (Original Post) Nevilledog Apr 2021 OP
White privilege on full display here. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #1
Absolutely. Nevilledog Apr 2021 #6
Just an aside Klondike Kat Apr 2021 #16
Just type in the phrase, images of whatever your MOS is MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2021 #23
Hmm... rownesheck Apr 2021 #2
I'd like to see how this turns out Rorey Apr 2021 #3
of course llashram Apr 2021 #4
Staggering treatment compared to recent events. BSdetect Apr 2021 #5
Duh! n/t malaise Apr 2021 #7
Duh! n/t malaise Apr 2021 #8
So predictable. dalton99a Apr 2021 #9
While the victims are mostly black lives there are few exceptions randr Apr 2021 #10
The sizable majority of people killed by police are of course white cinematicdiversions Apr 2021 #13
Devil in the details... Claire Oh Nette Apr 2021 #21
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #22
the shootings of young black men is the tip of the iceburg LiberalLovinLug Apr 2021 #24
All true FakeNoose Apr 2021 #28
I was shuddering thinking of this the other day LiberalLovinLug Apr 2021 #30
Let's see the body cam video on this. Put it side-by-side with the most recent cop shooting Walleye Apr 2021 #11
So, a white dude can hit a cop in the Bettie Apr 2021 #12
Of course! Richard58 Apr 2021 #25
Graphic example of the two justice systems and white privilege. Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #14
do we know if the cop even had a chance to shoot? Chakaconcarne Apr 2021 #15
This is one time when the officer would have wnylib Apr 2021 #27
Ok, lets look at this with a thinking brain. Butterflylady Apr 2021 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2021 #20
And two different outcomes. One is dead. One is not. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2021 #26
WaPo, as of 4/12: 991 People Have Been Shot and Killed by Police in the Past Year Hortensis Apr 2021 #18
A white Republican/Nazi would never hurt another white man during arrest. If the arrestee is a POC, johnthewoodworker Apr 2021 #19
And I bet Tucker Carlson will fail to see anything wrong here... Moostache Apr 2021 #29

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
1. White privilege on full display here.
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 10:40 AM
Apr 2021

You can bet the farm that it he had been a POC, he would either be severely beaten or killed.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,250 posts)
23. Just type in the phrase, images of whatever your MOS is
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 12:26 PM
Apr 2021

and you'll get a bunch of pics to choose from.

Hope that helps.

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
2. Hmm...
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 10:42 AM
Apr 2021

I just can't put my finger on what could possibly cause the difference in police behavior here. I may need to do more research.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
3. I'd like to see how this turns out
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 10:44 AM
Apr 2021

I wonder if the unnamed (!!!) suspect is out on bail yet. It wouldn't surprise me.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
4. of course
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 10:45 AM
Apr 2021

I expect nothing less in this oppressively suffocating nation of hypocrites. Privilege and entitlement based on one skin colour still go a long way in helping a person stay alive at the hands of the authorities in this society.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
13. The sizable majority of people killed by police are of course white
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 11:16 AM
Apr 2021

It is simply that black deaths are out of proportion with their population

In addition black deaths by police are more newsworthy so they get more coverage to the point that some people actually believe they are the majority of shootings.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
21. Devil in the details...
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 12:20 PM
Apr 2021

Black people represent ~15% of the population, whites are ~60% of the population.

No one race or ethnicity has a monopoly on crime--whites and blacks commit crimes at the same rates.

Cops react to and prepare for threats that are myths--they simply are not being assaulted on traffic stops in numbers to justify so many young unarmed black men's deaths for administrivia like tags or tail lights.

[link:https://michiganlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/117MichLRev635_Woods.pdf|]

[link:https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124036/number-people-killed-police-ethnicity-us/|]

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
24. the shootings of young black men is the tip of the iceburg
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 12:47 PM
Apr 2021

Or maybe more that they are the canaries in the coal mine.

Showing a bigger deeper problem that never gets addressed. The overall militarization, shoot first training, and general lack of training for police compared to other countries.

There are of course a lot of white (and Asian, east Indian, Latino) victims as well. And I'm sure those have also been rising.

The over militarization / radicalization of the police forces, and the lax standards for entry ("Those that work forces....are the same that burn crosses" ) is the bigger issue.

By ignoring the bigger issue, RW media can contain it into a race war narrative. Some specific minority issue that they can paint as overblown and unnecessary.

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
28. All true
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 01:14 PM
Apr 2021

Add to your list the fact that police departments are directly recruiting from the quasi-nazi groups such as Proud Boys etc. They can't wait to get into a uniform, wear a badge and receive their service weapons. They're all pre-disposed towards provoking racial confrontations of any kind.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
30. I was shuddering thinking of this the other day
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 02:13 PM
Apr 2021

I imagine that, especially in smaller towns, its who you know that gets you the job. Not uncommon.

But it means that if there are already white supremacists in charge as sheriffs, or police chiefs, they weed out the sane, decent, ethically responsible applicants, and then actively recruit their friends and relatives who share the same Racist, Fascist beliefs to fill any opening that comes up.

Must be awful to live in some of those towns, as a minority, that has those kind of entitled Nazi police patrolling it.

Bettie

(16,072 posts)
12. So, a white dude can hit a cop in the
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 11:07 AM
Apr 2021

head with a hammer while driving with him stuck in the window and he's good to go.

I'm betting he gets released today, ends up pleading down to disorderly conduct and goes forth to continue being a douchenozzle in every interaction with society.

Richard58

(239 posts)
25. Of course!
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 12:54 PM
Apr 2021

After all, he is a white guy and a right-winger so OBVIOUSLY he is no threat to society! And that whole dragging the officer thing and hitting him on the head with a hammer was no doubt the result of him having a bad day! (You know, being harassed for no reason at the store just because he was expressing his freedom to not wear on of those Satan inspired masks that only sheeple wear.) Yes indeed he will be out on bail in a matter of minutes and IF he is brought to trial he will just get a stern lecture and a slap on the wrist.
Now if he had been Black he would have been shot multiple times the moment he didn't immediately pull over. Gotta love 'Murica.

wnylib

(21,340 posts)
27. This is one time when the officer would have
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 01:13 PM
Apr 2021

been justified in approaching the vehicle with a drawn gun, or at least a taser ready since the driver had alteady shown violent behavior.

But a Black driver with only a burned out taillight, expired inspection sticker, or appearance of no plates, gets the full gun and mace treatment.

Butterflylady

(3,537 posts)
17. Ok, lets look at this with a thinking brain.
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 11:44 AM
Apr 2021

First of all he was a suspect of an assault. Now my question is why did the officer engage with him by putting his hand inside the drivers window. Now my thinking is if this man was suspect in an assault why didn't he, the officer, draw his gun when approaching the vehicle full well knowing this man could be dangerous even violent. Why didn't the cop ask the man to step outside of his truck.

Now when I was stopped for speeding, only one time, the cop asked to see my license and insurance. I got them out and handed him both. The cops hand did not even come close to inside my vehicle.

So a man suspected of an assault and fleeing from police is evidently not dangerous, but a black man who was not a suspect of a crime and didn't try to flee is dangerous. That is the question.

Response to Butterflylady (Reply #17)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. WaPo, as of 4/12: 991 People Have Been Shot and Killed by Police in the Past Year
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 11:51 AM
Apr 2021

From the introduction to the WaPo's Fatal Force SEARCHABLE database, which also has some graphs regarding racial breakdowns/comparisons, etc.

This intro doesn't break out shootings of unarmed people, but a 2018 article said numbers of those, specifically including unarmed black men, had significantly declined since 2015 -- though at that time it warned against assuming causation or that the downward trend would continue.

In 2015, The Washington Post began to log every fatal shooting by an on-duty police officer in the United States. In that time there have been more than 5,000 such shootings recorded by The Post.

After Michael Brown, an unarmed Black man, was killed in 2014 by police in Ferguson, Mo., a Post investigation found that the FBI undercounted fatal police shootings by more than half. This is because reporting by police departments is voluntary and many departments fail to do so.

The Post’s data relies primarily on news accounts, social media postings and police reports. Analysis of more than five years of data reveals that the number and circumstances of fatal shootings and the overall demographics of the victims have remained relatively constant.

Despite the unpredictable events that lead to fatal shootings, police nationwide have shot and killed almost the same number of people annually — nearly 1,000 — since The Post began its project. Probability theory may offer an explanation. It holds that the quantity of rare events in huge populations tends to remain stable absent major societal changes, such as a fundamental shift in police culture or extreme restrictions on gun ownership.

Although half of the people shot and killed by police are White, Black Americans are shot at a disproportionate rate. They account for less than 13 percent of the U.S. population, but are killed by police at more than twice the rate of White Americans. Hispanic Americans are also killed by police at a disproportionate rate.

Police shootings have taken place in every state and have occurred more frequently in cities where populations are concentrated. States with the highest rates of shootings are New Mexico, Alaska and Oklahoma. ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/
 

johnthewoodworker

(694 posts)
19. A white Republican/Nazi would never hurt another white man during arrest. If the arrestee is a POC,
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 11:55 AM
Apr 2021

watch out.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
29. And I bet Tucker Carlson will fail to see anything wrong here...
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 01:33 PM
Apr 2021

Breathtaking how many examples of white privilege and black peril can happen in the same state, at the same time as the Chauvin murder trial...



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