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Fifty Shades of Whey
@davenewworld_2
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Apr 15, 2021
This happened yesterday in Minnesota, the suspect was a 61-year-old white man fleeing police. He wasn't shot or tased.
Fifty Shades of Whey
@davenewworld_2
"Hutchinson police say a 61-year-old man is in custody after allegedly dragging an officer with his vehicle while simultaneously striking him with a hammer following a dispute about face masks at a Menards store."
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/04/14/police-man-drags-hutchinson-officer-with-car-hits-him-with-hammer-after-face-mask-dispute/
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MarineCombatEngineer
(12,250 posts)You can bet the farm that it he had been a POC, he would either be severely beaten or killed.
Nevilledog
(51,006 posts)Klondike Kat
(810 posts)Where did you find the patch with your MOS on it?
I'd like to get one.
Thx.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,250 posts)and you'll get a bunch of pics to choose from.
Hope that helps.
rownesheck
(2,343 posts)I just can't put my finger on what could possibly cause the difference in police behavior here. I may need to do more research.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I wonder if the unnamed (!!!) suspect is out on bail yet. It wouldn't surprise me.
llashram
(6,265 posts)I expect nothing less in this oppressively suffocating nation of hypocrites. Privilege and entitlement based on one skin colour still go a long way in helping a person stay alive at the hands of the authorities in this society.
BSdetect
(8,995 posts)malaise
(268,698 posts)malaise
(268,698 posts)dalton99a
(81,392 posts)Yeah, there is no pattern at all
randr
(12,409 posts)Responding to vehicular infractions should not involve deadly force.
https://www.deltacountyindependent.com/news/austin-woman-named-in-dcso-deputy-involved-shooting/article_00f355b8-9c7e-11eb-afdb-8f33d32bc033.html
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)It is simply that black deaths are out of proportion with their population
In addition black deaths by police are more newsworthy so they get more coverage to the point that some people actually believe they are the majority of shootings.
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)Black people represent ~15% of the population, whites are ~60% of the population.
No one race or ethnicity has a monopoly on crime--whites and blacks commit crimes at the same rates.
Cops react to and prepare for threats that are myths--they simply are not being assaulted on traffic stops in numbers to justify so many young unarmed black men's deaths for administrivia like tags or tail lights.
[link:https://michiganlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/117MichLRev635_Woods.pdf|]
[link:https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124036/number-people-killed-police-ethnicity-us/|]
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,164 posts)Or maybe more that they are the canaries in the coal mine.
Showing a bigger deeper problem that never gets addressed. The overall militarization, shoot first training, and general lack of training for police compared to other countries.
There are of course a lot of white (and Asian, east Indian, Latino) victims as well. And I'm sure those have also been rising.
The over militarization / radicalization of the police forces, and the lax standards for entry ("Those that work forces....are the same that burn crosses" ) is the bigger issue.
By ignoring the bigger issue, RW media can contain it into a race war narrative. Some specific minority issue that they can paint as overblown and unnecessary.
FakeNoose
(32,579 posts)Add to your list the fact that police departments are directly recruiting from the quasi-nazi groups such as Proud Boys etc. They can't wait to get into a uniform, wear a badge and receive their service weapons. They're all pre-disposed towards provoking racial confrontations of any kind.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,164 posts)I imagine that, especially in smaller towns, its who you know that gets you the job. Not uncommon.
But it means that if there are already white supremacists in charge as sheriffs, or police chiefs, they weed out the sane, decent, ethically responsible applicants, and then actively recruit their friends and relatives who share the same Racist, Fascist beliefs to fill any opening that comes up.
Must be awful to live in some of those towns, as a minority, that has those kind of entitled Nazi police patrolling it.
Walleye
(30,978 posts)Bettie
(16,072 posts)head with a hammer while driving with him stuck in the window and he's good to go.
I'm betting he gets released today, ends up pleading down to disorderly conduct and goes forth to continue being a douchenozzle in every interaction with society.
Richard58
(239 posts)After all, he is a white guy and a right-winger so OBVIOUSLY he is no threat to society! And that whole dragging the officer thing and hitting him on the head with a hammer was no doubt the result of him having a bad day! (You know, being harassed for no reason at the store just because he was expressing his freedom to not wear on of those Satan inspired masks that only sheeple wear.) Yes indeed he will be out on bail in a matter of minutes and IF he is brought to trial he will just get a stern lecture and a slap on the wrist.
Now if he had been Black he would have been shot multiple times the moment he didn't immediately pull over. Gotta love 'Murica.
Evolve Dammit
(16,697 posts)Chakaconcarne
(2,433 posts)he/she was being dragged.
wnylib
(21,340 posts)been justified in approaching the vehicle with a drawn gun, or at least a taser ready since the driver had alteady shown violent behavior.
But a Black driver with only a burned out taillight, expired inspection sticker, or appearance of no plates, gets the full gun and mace treatment.
Butterflylady
(3,537 posts)First of all he was a suspect of an assault. Now my question is why did the officer engage with him by putting his hand inside the drivers window. Now my thinking is if this man was suspect in an assault why didn't he, the officer, draw his gun when approaching the vehicle full well knowing this man could be dangerous even violent. Why didn't the cop ask the man to step outside of his truck.
Now when I was stopped for speeding, only one time, the cop asked to see my license and insurance. I got them out and handed him both. The cops hand did not even come close to inside my vehicle.
So a man suspected of an assault and fleeing from police is evidently not dangerous, but a black man who was not a suspect of a crime and didn't try to flee is dangerous. That is the question.
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Ferrets are Cool
(21,103 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)From the introduction to the WaPo's Fatal Force SEARCHABLE database, which also has some graphs regarding racial breakdowns/comparisons, etc.
This intro doesn't break out shootings of unarmed people, but a 2018 article said numbers of those, specifically including unarmed black men, had significantly declined since 2015 -- though at that time it warned against assuming causation or that the downward trend would continue.
After Michael Brown, an unarmed Black man, was killed in 2014 by police in Ferguson, Mo., a Post investigation found that the FBI undercounted fatal police shootings by more than half. This is because reporting by police departments is voluntary and many departments fail to do so.
The Posts data relies primarily on news accounts, social media postings and police reports. Analysis of more than five years of data reveals that the number and circumstances of fatal shootings and the overall demographics of the victims have remained relatively constant.
Despite the unpredictable events that lead to fatal shootings, police nationwide have shot and killed almost the same number of people annually nearly 1,000 since The Post began its project. Probability theory may offer an explanation. It holds that the quantity of rare events in huge populations tends to remain stable absent major societal changes, such as a fundamental shift in police culture or extreme restrictions on gun ownership.
Although half of the people shot and killed by police are White, Black Americans are shot at a disproportionate rate. They account for less than 13 percent of the U.S. population, but are killed by police at more than twice the rate of White Americans. Hispanic Americans are also killed by police at a disproportionate rate.
Police shootings have taken place in every state and have occurred more frequently in cities where populations are concentrated. States with the highest rates of shootings are New Mexico, Alaska and Oklahoma. ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/
johnthewoodworker
(694 posts)watch out.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Breathtaking how many examples of white privilege and black peril can happen in the same state, at the same time as the Chauvin murder trial...