Mueller? Mueller?

[Nevilledog]

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Brian Klaas
@brianklaas
To summarize: Trump's campaign chair and deputy campaign chair provided an internal strategy memo and private polling to a Russian agent who then passed it onto Russian intelligence agencies. The Kremlin then used that information to try to help Trump win the 2016 election.

Marshall Cohen
@MarshallCohen
For the first time EVER, the US government said Russian agent Konstantin Kilimnik provided Russian intelligence agencies with the internal Trump campaign polling/strategy data he received from Manafort and Gates in 2016. Even Mueller didn't go that far. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0126…
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Ryan Goodman
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Trump Campaign Chair Manafort gave sensitive polling data to his associate Kilimnik, Russian intel agent.

What did Kilimnik do with it?

Mueller report 2019: Don't know
Senate report 2020: Don't know
Treasury Dep't 2021: He passed polling data to Kremlin

US Treasury Provides Missing Link: Manafort’s Partner Gave Campaign Polling Data to Kremlin in 2016
The Treasury Department says Konstantin Kilimnik “provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy."
justsecurity.org

https://www.justsecurity.org/75766/us-treasury-provides-missing-link-manaforts-partner-gave-campaign-polling-data-to-kremlin-in-2016/

[soothsayer]

1. Bye, spy!

[Botany]

2. I bet this is covered in the parts of the Mueller Report that Bill Barr redacted.

BTW It wasn't campaign polling data but data analytics that let Russia micro target
very selected spots in order to rat fuck our elections in 2016.

[crickets]

8. I bet you're right. The unredacted (or at least more conscientiously redacted) report

really should be released by now. Also, the difference in polling data vs data analytics is important. Strange that Treasury didn't make the distinction.

The Treasury Department’s new statement raises questions about why this information is coming out now and why the Special Counsel’s office did not have access to it during its investigation. Was it not available then or did it exist but was not provided to the Mueller team?

An unredacted Mueller report might answer some of these questions.

It's an impressive sanctions list, especially in naming many of the disinformation sources. Damn, but it's great to have competence back in government again, eh?

[Botany]

9. Manafort, Gates, and Parscale were feeding Russian intelligence agents the data they needed to ...

.... rat fuck our elections. Roger Stone, Eric Prince, and the Mercers were in the mix too.
Having our electronic voting machines with electronic back doors programed into them that
allowed for the viewing and manipulation of the data without leaving any electronic fingerprints
I believe was a big part too. Sometimes on things like ESS machines this could be done remotely.

Here is Alexander Torshin, Maria Butina's handler looking at a voting machine in Luzerne County, PA.

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/1*em9b4hO_wYjguiQi6wY2jA.jpeg

Funny enough Luzerne County had been voting blue every Presidential election from either 1988 or
1992 but it when red in 2016 and back to blue 2018 and 2020. The Russians ran a fake group called
miners for Trump in order to explain Trump's win there in 2016.

Polling data is one thing but data analytics weaponizes it.

sorry to

[triron]

15. Andrew Weissman said on Nicole Wallace's show that they didn't know this.

Why not???

[Botany]

20. I knew about it .... Manafort feeding campaign data to Russian agents in 2017.

How did Mueller and company not know? It was in Malcome Nance's books.

[triron]

21. Good question. Maybe they didn't wnt to know.

[Dan]

3. I wonder, Manafort may have been pardoned, but can we revoke his

Citizenship and deport him (and his family) to a Russian friendly nation?

[Mr. Ected]

4. Ethel? Yes Julius?

Why were we fried to a crisp for our crimes while the Trump gang are being given a complete pass for theirs?

[Volaris]

5. Well no shit. Dude wasnt writing a class paper with that data lol...

While I still want bidens DOJ to release the full report, I didnt need rob mueller to tell me this (even tho it's nice to have it confirmed by a federal document).

[triron]

16. Yeah, wtf do they think Kilimnik did with it? Use it for tp?

[spanone]

6. K&R

[AZProgressive]

7. I'm not sure why this is breaking news

Konstantin Kilimnik is the direct link between the Trump campaign and Russian intelligence. I did a lot of research on Russia interference so I already knew this. What else was he going to do with the polling data?

[triron]

17. I thought the same for years. Now it's just coming out?????

[bucolic_frolic]

10. Mueller had his hands tied and

almost surely didn't see his investigation as encompassing aspects of foreign policy

[triron]

19. Nope. Weissman said that they did not know this.

My question is why the hell did Mueller raise holy hell to find out.

[SayItLoud]

11. How about some NEW charges against ManaFART? NT

[bringthePaine]

12. time to find out if clearly treasonous Barr has a secret pardon-in-waiting

[certainot]

13. russians have been using rw radio since at least 2008. ties in with trump/limbaugh

relationship and use of limbaugh

investigators have to include radio , the classic 100 year old propaganda form that has been doing a number on the US for 30 years with objectives very common with putin - global warming denial, undermining democracy, getting palin into the white house, then trump, for example

all the main characters manafort, stone, corsi, trump have close connections with use of radio, which is what a lot of the social media trolling piggybacked

[Botany]

22. QAnon received earlier boost from Russian accounts on Twitter, archives show

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-qanon-cyber/qanon-received-earlier-boost-from-russian-accounts-on-twitter-archives-show-idUSKBN27I18I

Russia has been and is still spreading disinformation in America to cause unrest for years. I can't be
certian but I think there is strong links between Fox News and Russia too.

BTW I just lost one of my LONG TIME best friends to a right wing "think tank" called the Heterodox Academy.

[certainot]

26. heterodox academy! yikes, what a name. i think q-anon is another eg of russian piggybacking

of rw radio. the main characters - 'liberal deep state' (ha) elite - obama clinton soros yates brennan, rice, strzok, etc - were a big part of the limbaugh deep state russia hoax vs trump narrative that started up loud from limbaugh around 2017 inauguration and i think the q-anon part was a social media ramp up for a younger crowd as well as the more radical crowd. it probably appealed to abuse victims. they not be listening to the more subtle limbaugh directly but maybe more to beck, jones, levin maybe, and some of the loonier night shows. it's malpractice for media and political polsters not to poll for talk radio.

from that link:

Russian accounts had helped spread QAnon in volume beginning in December 2017

team limbaugh had been setting up a continuously morphing complicated convoluted narrative to counter the russian collusion evidence and stories coming out and i don't know what his sources were but it sounded like something the russians would do first as they tried to excuse trump and the other republican helpers, written/dedsigned by intel pros and lawyers, then feed to team limbaugh through intermediaries with limbaugh being point man.

investigators really need to look back to palin/2008, tea party, climategate/2009, debt default/2011, benghazi/email etc, ebola/2014, and sam nunberg really needs to be asked details to determine if the "1000s of hours of talk radio" trump wanted him to listen to and write notes on in 2014 involved the battleground states the russians targeted, for instance.

[BobTheSubgenius]

14. Everybody sing along - you all know the words!!!

"No collusion!!! No quid pro quo!!!"

[uponit7771]

18. So yeah, the TRUMP CAMPAIGN colluded with the Russians to win in 2016

[scarytomcat]

23. Mueller should come back and finish the job

Working for an honest AG
Let's see a real report so it never happens again

[uponit7771]

24. +1, and it wasn't just Barb was rosenstein also telling them not to investigate Trump's finances

... but more being a functionary never let anyone know that the investigation was limited

[triron]

25. Maybe not Mueller.