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PoliticoAdapted from Madam Speaker: Nancy Pelosi and the Lessons of Power, to be published by Twelve Books on April 20.
That was what a senior congressional Democrat close to the speaker of the House told me when I asked what Nancy Pelosi really thought of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Pelosi was famous for having what POLITICO once described as an iron fist in a Gucci glove. There was no better example of that than her dealings with the Squad, the quartet of progressive women elected in 2018. She hadnt survived as the top Democrat in the House for nearly two decades by ignoring challenges or challengers. Instead, she applied the lessons she had learned to win them over, or at least keep them at bay.
The relationship between the speaker and AOC, her partys most charismatic newcomer, is complicated. Colleagues and congressional aides said Pelosi saw the New York congresswoman as a talented person but one who was often naïve about how the institution worked and unrealistic about what could be achieved, and how. She feared the Squads demands would imperil hard-won Democratic control the slim majority that had put Democrats in a position to change the countrys course, but not to win every battle.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/04/15/nancy-pelosi-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-481704
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)Meanwhile the press is not paying much attention to the actual disarray with the Repubs and Matt Gaetz.
JohnSJ
(92,187 posts)agreed about "mute rules", when Pence kept over talking into VP Harris time
Cha
(297,196 posts)JohnSJ
(92,187 posts)niyad
(113,289 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the house's "establishment" Progressive Caucus to achieve common goals. Exactly as Pelosi has always advised to maximize their ability to make a difference in congress.
Of course even that suggestion is guaranteed to alarm those seeking to divide the electorate and conquer. Ergo, more of this "war" nonsense. Searching reveals it's party of a major campaign to incite angry division.
niyad
(113,289 posts)PortTack
(32,762 posts)tonedevil
(3,022 posts)to call it a war, but I guess a shocking headline is what makes it Politico.
Midnight Writer
(21,753 posts)See, they get along just fine on the other side of the aisle.
ZZenith
(4,122 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(4,243 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,281 posts)I always want to peal off her face when she's invited to opine. Never ever could stand her.
Don't understand why her opinions and writing is posted here, may as well post F snooze opinions for all it's worth.
tirebiter
(2,536 posts)Autumn
(45,068 posts)malaise
(268,977 posts)There are disagreements
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)is right under the title. Which is her job and that of other house leaders -- forging over 200 representatives all with their own interests into a fighting unit that can win.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)Who does have that kind of patience?
From the click-bait title to the obvious shit-stirring, it's the sort of thing Fox watchers drool over. Unfortunately, I just saw the same crap on CNN.
As far as patience and what people don't know, members of "The Squad" don't seem to be the type that would refuse to learn. They may still disagree, but one of the better things Pelosi has done is mentor them.
BComplex
(8,049 posts)would want to copy failure is beyond me, but somehow I guess they're jealous they aren't as ridiculous as Fox propaganda. You might as well read the National Inquirer as believe anything that is said on Fox. Fox news is primarily responsible for the mess this country is in now.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)Hate Radio is more widespread, and easily accessible. They've wrecked democracy together.
I guess the others see the ratings and $$$. CNN used to cover the teabag response to Obamas SOTU speeches, and held official Town Halls for the teabaggers. In some ways, they are worse than Fox because they still had a reputation of being actual journalism and respectable, yet aired and sponsored that kind of garbage.
chowder66
(9,067 posts)dpibel
(2,831 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)dpibel
(2,831 posts)The "you" in my comment was the poster, not the Speaker.
andym
(5,443 posts)perhaps that term should be retired.
**Actually, as the poster below states, actually a member of the group, created the name when AOC placed the name "squad" under a photo of the 4 members.
Unfortunately, it was the right-wing that then popularized the term.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,601 posts)andym
(5,443 posts)So you are correct, BUT it is the right-wing that has run with it.
"Ocasio-Cortez published the picture on Instagram, labeling it "Squad";[8][13] Pressley published the photo on her Instagram story the same day.[10] The next day, they had already attracted negative attention in conservative media, as Laura Ingraham of Fox News called them "the four horsewomen of the apocalypse"."
"After publication, Ocasio-Cortez's Squad photo became a viral phenomenon, and public figures began using "The Squad" to refer collectively to the four women, with prominent examples of usage coming from New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd and White House counselor Kellyanne Conway. "
"On July 14, 2019, President Donald Trump tweeted that the members of the Squad should "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came."
The right wingers use the "Squad" to denigrate the 4 Congress people.
awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)Celerity
(43,344 posts)when they attempt to play 'let's you and them fight' games between the further left of the caucus and the leadership.
These postings like this (such as that OP you posted of a RW, disingenuous hit piece from the long-odious, and now clearly RW Newsweek attempting the same thing as this OP) only serve to engender divisiveness, garner clicks, and to fire up the old outrage Wurlitzer (borrowed that phrase from an old post by another DU'er).
This article is mostly rehashing events from 2018 and 2019, which were dealt with and moved on from.
I shall post the end of it (this Politico piece), which serves to somewhat counter the negative framing attempt:
Omar tweeted photos from the trip. One of them showed Omar and Pelosi standing at the Door of No Return on Goree Island, holding hands and smiling.
By the end of the year, Pelosi had set a record for keeping her caucus together, despite its ideological differences. The iron fist in the Gucci glove had managed to hold together a diverse group of politicians who ranged from the 31 members representing districts won by Trump to the four progressives in the Squad who werent afraid to be called Democratic socialists.
Democrats recorded the highest level of party unity since CQ Roll Call began tracking the measure in 1956. Pelosi was winning the battle to control the progressives and keep the party together. But she also knew the war was being waged anew every day, with more fights soon to follow.
on a side note....
You had the stones yesterday to imply I was veering into Trumpian territory for simply referring to Afghanistan as a 'forever war'.
Will you say the same thing about President Biden?
Biden: It's time to end the forever war
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/04/14/joe-biden-beau-biden-its-time-to-end-this-forever-war-sot-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/
Doc Sportello
(7,517 posts)On all.
dpibel
(2,831 posts)It's interesting, isn't it, that those who cry loudest about purported progressive demands for ideological purity can shout pretty loudly when there might be a challenge to centrist ideological purity?
ck4829
(35,070 posts)Alright, lets talk politics. What are the parties up to?
What do you wanna know, boss? Weve got one party with a conspiracy theorist who thinks mass shootings are done by crisis actors and believes in a Jewish space laser. Weve got a guy who has sexcapades and wanted a blanket pardon from the last guy. Weve got guys who fell for satirical articles. Weve got a guy who has passed no legislation but seems to be in to own the libs. Weve got a guy who lies. Weve got a guy who thinks charity and putting the toilet paper over instead of under are both examples of socialism, and...
Wait, and the other party?
Well, some people got snippy with some people one time...
Theres your story. Call it civil war, cut it, run it, print it, call it a weekend. We need to both sides this now, people, NOW!