If teacher must have a college degree,

[multigraincracker]

so should cops. Teacher, almost always, need a Masters to get a promotion, so should cops. Teachers need to make as much as cops too. Seems teachers need to buy there own supplies, so should cops. If POAs are exempt from Right to Work Laws, so should teacher unions.

Cops have a hard time writing reports, teacher don't.

[KPN]

1. Can't do that. With that much education, too much risk they'd be

liberal.

[Biophilic]

4. Or at least be able to think and reason. nt

[Mosby]

24. Your not joking

https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Police need more critical thinking skills.

[PatSeg]

23. And courses in ethics

I think too many police got their training from watching cop shows on television.

There is an attitude I've seen in cops I've known, even my own brother years ago. They start to see everyone as criminals and they look for crimes where they often don't exist. I remember my brother's wife saying, he'd come home in interrogation mode and question her and the kids like they were suspects. Fortunately, he didn't stay in that occupation a long time. It really brought out the worst in him.

[Diamond_Dog]

3. Florida wants all college professors

to submit to an annual interview so as to determine their political leanings. Because critics say colleges are liberal indoctrination camps or some such thing.

Maybe we should start weeding out the ultra right wing white supremacists from becoming cops.

[samplegirl]

13. Cops need to put their

political beliefs completely aside which is impossible.

[RainCaster]

19. Maybe we should...

start weeding out the ultra right wing white supremacists from becoming legislators.

Vote dammit! Get involved locally, and GOTV.

[ancianita]

21. Florida wants it, but it won't get it because it's totalitarian and illegal. Who's qualified to give

such interviews. Scientists? Psychologists? Intelligence professionals? A Florida truth commission?

How does an annual interview go that's about "account for your academic freedom of speech" and how do they know they're being truthful about their political bias -- personality test, lie detector test, sodium pentathol, social media search, what.

It's an inquisition, because it can't be a truth interview.

[lark]

5. In FL. you have to have a college degree.

My daughters' friend married this guy in college who graduated and became a policeman. It is a requirement, at least for the city for sure.

[USALiberal]

10. Maybe a city requirement. Not state.

[lark]

11. That's strange that different counties (ours is a county thing) have different stds.

But then this is FL. which has fallen far down the rabbit hole.

[ancianita]

22. Not true. I had to have a college degree to get a FL teaching certificate. Perhaps that's changed

since '71. So maybe you can link proof for your claim.

All states have state teacher certification.

If alternative certification is the wave of the future, then this country's democratic IQ is doomed.

[USALiberal]

26. I meant the cops in FL don't need college degree. Nt

[ancianita]

27. Oh, I see. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Yes, cops should have college degrees. Chicago requires two year associates' degrees, generally earned at community or 4-year colleges, just to get hired.

[quaint]

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[4Q2u2]

9. You forgot

U.S. Military does 8 weeks minimum then possibly another 4+ then are issued weapons.
They do not seem to have any of the same problems.
Maybe it is the person and type of training, not the length.

[4Q2u2]

7. Why?

Education and Smarts are two different things.
Plenty of Educated A-holes voted for the Orange Anus.
This escalation of diplomaitis then locks out millions of Americans from good paying job. There are Power Companies paying 31/hr for their call center help, but they want an Associates Degree. For a dam call center.
Create a better Middle School and High Scholl education system. Teach Civics and American Political responsibilities.
Do our Children really need to know who was the first Pharaoh of Egypt?

[Throck]

8. Education requirements vary with police departments.

I know a town that has a police department of 1.

[arlyellowdog]

12. Teachers are professionals

Say, “if lawyers need a degree then police do” or say “if accountants need an advanced degree then police do,” “if nurses need degrees then police do.” I’m making this point because teachers are getting hit so hard. Teachers need a Masters plus a certification. Saying, “if teachers need a college degree,” suggests that their jobs can be done without them.

[Hortensis]

14. Practically speaking, some college is highly desirable for consideration

when applying, and for any advancement. Many applicants, for competitive departments in cities anyway, have four-year degrees.

Regarding higher education, the feeling has always been that police should reflect the community, ideally be from the community. When college was uncommon, it was uncommon in patrol cops. Nowadays, of course, education beyond high school is normal, so of course it's become normal for those entering the field.

[modrepub]

15. Don't Forget

Teachers and a lot of other professionals have Continuing Education requirements to keep their certification. Just because you've completed your education doesn't mean you stop learning or trying to expand your abilities.

[EYESORE 9001]

16. Municipal civil service workers have confirmed to me

that candidates with mediocre IQ scores are preferred for police department openings. Higher intelligence increases likelihood of asking pesky questions and (gasp!) thinking for oneself.

[GregariousGroundhog]

17. Many states do require police officers to have some sort post secondary education

I did a quick google search, and roughly half of police officers nation wide have at least an associates degree, and a little under one third have at least a bachelors degree.

[mgardener]

18. So should members of Congress

[RainCaster]

20. Most of those have law degrees

There are a few notable exceptions, like BoBo the gun-totin' GED moron.

[MurrayDelph]

25. Teachers, along with nurses

are on a national registry, so that a teacher who has done something questionable can't just moved and set up shop elsewhere. The same should be done with police, public and private.

[Skittles]

28. they do where I live

yup

[WarGamer]

29. Most do.

A national survey of 958 police agencies, published in 2017, found that 30.2 percent of police officers had four-year college degrees, 51.8 percent had two-year degrees, and 5.4 percent had graduate degrees.Jun 24, 2020

https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/504075-college-for-cops-studies-show-it-helps-their-behavior-stress-levels#:~:text=A%20national%20survey%20of%20958,5.4%20percent%20had%20graduate%20degrees.

[Polybius]

30. NYC does require that

Sadly, it's what stopped my dream of becoming a cop. I never wanted to go to college.