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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDaunte Wright's warrant and Kimberly Potter's background
When his shooting was 1st reported and most of the times I've encountered the story since, Mr. Wright's warrant was for failure to report for court or a misdemeanor gun possession charge. But while flipping yesterday, I ran across a Fox story that claimed it was for Felony armed robbery!? So far I haven't heard that anywhere else, so what gives?
in addition, has there been much revealed about Ms. Potter's background and record? Does she have complaints about similar actions and over use of violence, racial bias or outright racism in her career, anything that might hint at malicious intent?
Omnipresent
(5,706 posts)Whom I believe, made a terrible, unfortunate mistake. I dont believe she had intentions on killing Daunte.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Nothing wrong with that. But that benefit the doubt is one of the privileges that white people enjoy.
Black people, not so much. There is something wrong with that.
Omnipresent
(5,706 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,326 posts)unless she's working against it.
Omnipresent
(5,706 posts)I didnt realize, we had a QAnon on the left.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)the first police union was literally run by a member of the North American Bund, an OG American Nazi organization, in Portland, Oregon, no less. Most police departments started as offshoots slave patrols. Hell, the St. Louis PD, in my neck of the woods, has two police unions, one "official" one that mostly protects the white cops, and another one to represent the black cops.
So no, this isn't "Qanon of the left" that's dumb, this is reality.
Omnipresent
(5,706 posts)They would have to be, by your reasoning.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,326 posts)immigrants and the poor in the defense of the concept of whiteness, and protecting property. That's neither a conspiracy nor a lie.
littlemissmartypants
(22,632 posts)Ignore this at your own peril.
Omnipresent
(5,706 posts)OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)The people on the left who fell for QAnon tend to deny systemic racism in the police department and every other institution. The statement you were replying to may seem harsh if you don't interact on a regular basis about racism, but it's the 100% truth.
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)Judging from an unstressed perspective, it seems almost impossible to mix up a Glock and a Taser, indeed their are valid reason why it would be pretty difficult. But I've made some dumbass mistakes under stress and adrenaline (and that leaves the question of why she was under that much duress...).
But, OTOH, its somewhat odd that if she harbored a homicidal dislike/fear of blacks offenders that she didn't demonstrate it before in some fashion, until she got this opportunity to act on it, and was level headed enough to pull off some on site acting to support her cover story. Its possible, though it seems to indicate an almost sociopathic personality disorder. Her shock and dismay sounded sincere to me on footage, but that isn't proof positive of anything.
But again, its possible and maybe she has 'slipped' before, there would be complaints, perhaps witnesses? I'd like to know before making up my mind about her intent in Mr. Wright's killing. Chauvin, who I really feel is stone cold killer, certainly left a great deal of signs. But so far my limited Google skills have left Mrs. Potter something of a cipher.
Dr. Strange
(25,919 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Daunte_Wright#Daunte_Wright
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,062 posts)The police also knew he was not necessarily complying with the ball restrictions that prohibited him from possessing a gun.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)If that's enough to make them so jumpy they accidentally shoot them to death, they need to find a new line of work.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)officer tries to handcuff him, he breaks away and jumps back into the car?
Yeah, that would make them overly jumpy for themselves, bystanders, and what might happen if he got away.
That assumes they knew about the robbery and gun charges. But it appears to me that is why so many squads were on the scene. I still question stopping him in the first place.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But this is how people often justify extrajudicial executions.
The people with the guns and the badges aren't supposed to be so "jumpy" they "accidentally" shoot the people.
And funny how folk will justify a trained cop overreacting and killing someone because they were "scared" or "jumpy," but will blame a Black person for causing their own death because they didn't behave perfectly rationally, calmly, and respectfully when in a situation that most Black people will tell you is absolutely terrifying to us.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)From what I've seen so far, I tend to think it's a horrible mistake that has happen a few times before. I do agree with charging her so that it is thoroughly investigated. AND darn sure think policies on traffic stops, search warrants, etc., need to be reviewed.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Interestingly, some of the ACAB crew have posited that she is guilty of intentional murder.
That seems like a huge stretch to me. On the other hand, negligent homicide would seem like a slam dunk.
harumph
(1,898 posts)Here is the Snopes fact check. This issue has been intentionally muddied by the usual sources.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/daunte-wright-record/
There is no evidence at present to indicate that Potter pulled Wright over with knowledge of the alleged aggravated robbery - but the warrant just wasn't for a traffic citation. A prior warrant had indeed issued for him for an alleged robbery and he was arrested and posted bond. He was later cited for carrying a gun without a permit which violated the terms of his jail release. Another warrant was issued for failure to show in court. The warrant that Potter noticed prior to stopping him DID STATE that he has been previously cited for carrying a pistol without a permit. Hence, she would have reason to (1) pull him over and (2) use extreme caution.
There is absolutely a systemic problem of racism in policing that is widespread. George Floyd, Breanna Taylor and Eric Garner are better case examples because nothing of what they did or their known background would even suggest the force ultimately used against them. Potter was absolutely negligent and could not keep her shit together in a stressful situation. For argument sake, assuming that pulling the Taser was "reasonable," a cop that can't pull the correct weapon according to the threat level does not need to be a cop.
Many correctly point to the disparity between white and black treatment when there is reason to stop and detain someone b/c a reasonable fear exists that the person may be armed. What we have here is unnamed apartheid. Years of systemic racism, e.g., redlining, Jim Crow, lynching, voter suppression, downright attacks on black communities (Tulsa et al.) and segregation coupled with a decline of working class jobs that had provided ladder rungs for people to pull themselves out of poverty have eviscerated black communities and relegated blacks to second class citizenry. The only way this is going to be remotely solved in the US is at the ballot box by electing more people of color and social justice minded whites that sincerely want to end this shit show. The most important things are protecting access to voting and active GOTV. Knowing full well the pushback that all legal means of change are getting from republican officials, I'm also an advocate (and I know many here will vehemently disagree) that in cases where it is legally permitted people of color and sympathetic liberals obtain firearms and train themselves in effective use and safe storage. Intimidation works with politicians - we've seen that for the last four years. The terrible truth is that bad actors do what they do because they're fear motivated - not motivated by personal ethics/morality. They'll just take and take and take and push and push and push until there are serious consequences. I still fervently hope that change can be had through the ballot box in a free, fair, transparent and accessible elections.
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)Has there been anymore said about Kimberly Potter?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)You could easily Google information about Mr Wright's background? It took me less than a minute to determined that accusation is false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/daunte-wright-record/
Why come here to spread an unfounded rumor when you could have easily just checked it out yourself?
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)I still haven't found anything about Kimberly Potter. to draw any firm conclusions about her.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)The warrant was for misdemeanor gun possession, but he does have an armed robbery charge.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But the whole thing was a smear.
The fact that he had an armed robbery charge - the facts of which the cops likely didn't know - is irrelevant to whether the officer had any reason to kill him.
These kinds of "well, he DID have a criminal record ..." posts are nothing.more than efforts to smear a victim in order to excuse the inexcusable Sadly, you seem to have bought into and are willing to perpetuate it.