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WarGamer

(12,440 posts)
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:41 PM Apr 2021

I know sometimes 3 Strikes laws and harsh prison sentences are frowned upon...

But why not ramp up the penalties for firearms offenses?

The VAST majority of gun murders involve a person with a violent rap sheet with GUN crimes on it.

Why is Felon in possession of a firearm NOT an automatic 10 year sentence?

Remove as many people from society as possible that use guns to terrorize communities, right?

Gun control and bans are not likely to happen.

Make guns sooooo risky to even own that people just don't.

EXAMPLE: the guy who killed the New Mexico HP officer with the AR15 recently

Omar Felix Cueva

06/1994 Vandalism
06/2000 Possession of a controlled substance
09/2001 Possession of Controlled substance
10/2002 Importation of a controlled substance
4/2004 Importation of Cocaine
8/2006 Fictitious Check, False check, Burglary
3/2007 Probation Violation
3/2008 Import of a controlled substance
9/2010 Possession with intent of Crystal Meth or ICE

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I know sometimes 3 Strikes laws and harsh prison sentences are frowned upon... (Original Post) WarGamer Apr 2021 OP
If we want gun control, the answer is very easy... Moostache Apr 2021 #1
Nope. TwilightZone Apr 2021 #5
That practically guarantees a shootout. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2021 #2
Ive always though the best way to get criminals Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #3
It's interesting that you mention that because... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #4
the Justice system is so fucked up WarGamer Apr 2021 #7
I never got to know him very well. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #9
Of course if you remove the nonviolent Hawker123 Apr 2021 #6
Agreed WarGamer Apr 2021 #8
Drug running and dealing are violent BECAUSE they are illegal. Caliman73 Apr 2021 #10

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. If we want gun control, the answer is very easy...
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:47 PM
Apr 2021

Open carry by ALL minorities, especially the 'scary' ones to LEOs (i.e. - non-white males).

Return to the days of images of the Black Panthers, armed with shotguns and rifles and defiantly marching, and you'll see a deluge of racist gun control measures immediately - like TODAY, before dinner.

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TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
5. Nope.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:52 PM
Apr 2021

This is and has always been all about the gun owners. They're not going to support anything that restricts their ownership, even if it means that others have access to them.

Everyone can already open carry in states where it's legal and there's been zero pushback by the gun nuts in terms of restrictions.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
3. Ive always though the best way to get criminals
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:50 PM
Apr 2021

to not use guns is to make possession of an unregistered firearm an automatic 20 year sentence. No more waiting for someone to do something bad or stupid with it. I think of it as a preventative.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
4. It's interesting that you mention that because...
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:51 PM
Apr 2021

... my neighbor who was murdered a few months ago (during a drug deal away from here) was supposedly shot to death by a guy with previous gun-related violations.

The accused guy was even locked up in the county jail for a few weeks because of the gun charges, then released just days before detectives issued a warrant for his arrest regarding the murder. Then they had to search for him over several weeks, eventually finding him in another state.

WarGamer

(12,440 posts)
7. the Justice system is so fucked up
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 01:04 PM
Apr 2021

Pot smokers and dudes with too many parking tickets catch jail time... a-holes with guns are let out of jail.

And sorry about your neighbor...

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
9. I never got to know him very well.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 01:08 PM
Apr 2021

He moved into this area after the pandemic had started.

I was getting annoyed by all of the noise coming from his place too, after he'd been there about a month. Visitors coming and going constantly as well. None of them were wearing masks.

Never wanted him to die, though!

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
10. Drug running and dealing are violent BECAUSE they are illegal.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 02:13 PM
Apr 2021

If drugs were legal and regulated, there would likely still be black market activity, but it would decrease. Dealers and smugglers arm themselves to protect their profits from other dealers/smugglers and from law enforcement.

If there were no dealers and smugglers how would possessors be able to possess? Everyone grows and manufactures their own?

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