I truly believe that to conquer this pandemic

[gopiscrap]

that anyone who refuses to vaccinate and doesn't have a medical contraindication to back it up, should be jailed until they do get vaccinated. Otherwise, the stupid fucks, mainly (white evangelicals) and a few others will keep this pandemic going.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

2. Oh, dear lord.

RNA/DNA vaccines do NOT affect DNA long term, and they are actually quite effective. Not sure what you've been reading, but you are simply wrong here.

[Phoenix61]

4. So get the J&J vaccine.

It’s the same tech as the flu vaccine.

[Ms. Toad]

11. No, it's not the same technology.

Adenovirus vector based vaccines are NOT used currently for influenza. That brand new technology is in clinical trials for influenza, but is not yet in use.

NONE of the COVID 19 vaccines use traditional vaccine technology.

[Phoenix61]

12. It uses a different virus but it's the same technology.

“While there are other vaccines on the U.S. market that use similar recombinant manufacturing processes, there is only one influenza vaccine produced using recombinant technology approved by the FDA for use in the United States at this time.”

[Ms. Toad]

13. It is not the same technology most people are used to,

since there is a single vaccine, relatively recently approved, that uses the recombinant technology. (The 2021 article I read indicated they were all still in clinical trials, but was apparently incorrect.)

That said, Johnson & Johnson is not likely to calm fears because it is not generally the same technology used for most influennza vaccines. As of 2020, it accounted for only 19% of influenza vaccines; it is likely earlier years were likely a far lower percentage. So it is not the vaccine most people are familiar with.

[Phoenix61]

14. The point was it's not"brand new" as some are

claiming with the mRNA vaccine. It’s been used successfully for well over a year. The reality is some people are not going to get the vaccine no matter what. They will spout whatever justification they can think of for actions that put themselves and everyone else at risk.

[Ms. Toad]

15. The mRNA is brand new - it's not just a claim.

Yes, it's been in development quite a while - but we have zero information about long-term consequences, since it is just starting to be used on humans. We have more information about the recombinant technology - but still less than a decade - AND - not enough to warn us about what may well be a general risk with recombinant vaccinations (since they suspect imperfect delivery of the DNA is the cause of the blood clots, that may extend to all similar vaccinations).

Bottom line, since vaccines (generally) and influenza vaccines (specifically) are older than dirt - using the same technology for decades that is a very different knowledge base than any of the COVID vaccines. So it's a bit disingenuous to tell them the J&J vaccine uses the same technology as the influenza vaccine - and to .

There are some who will not get vaccinated. There are others who may delay until they are more confident in the technology. If they are truly isolating, wearing masks anytime they are out, not gathering in large indoor crowds, etc. - and are willing to do that until such time as they are vaccinated that is not necessarly an irresponsible decision.

Not all people declining one or more vaccinations do so because they are generally opposed to vaccinations. For some of us it is a case-by-case decision. New vaccine mechanisms, for which there is no long-term safety data is definitely a reason for hesitation - BUT the deadly, unpredictably disabling nature of COVID 19 is a bigger motivation to get vaccinated (in my opinion).

[Rorey]

7. I hope you opt to learn real facts

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mRNA.html?s_cid=10506:covid%20vaccine%20change%20your%20dna:sem.ga:p:RG:GM:gen TN:FY21

[lame54]

9. Plenty of reading time in jail

[Rorey]

10. Who I'd really like to see in jail

I'd like to see some real consequences for the originators of the misinformation and lies that are influencing people to shy away from vaccines.

[IL Dem]

8. First of all, it's wary, not weary.

Messenger RNA (mRNA) does not affect your DNA. In fact, the research into it shows promise in the treatment of cancers. This didn't just spring from the air after Covid-19 hit the world. The research was going on before this, looking at SARS and MERS.

[Hortensis]

3. Understand the frustration, but scientists don't feel that's necessary.

Maybe to ease anxiety, check what respected epidemiologists say we need to do. And remember, though we can't jail all who deserve it, now that we have vaccines and better treatments, all those with the sense to take advantage of them are much, much, much safer. Soon most children will be vaccinated also.

[snowybirdie]

5. And just how will

the country pay for all these jailed citizens? Where should they be held? Who will stand guard? And how long should they be incarcerated? Think you might want to rethink this.

[gopiscrap]

6. there's another solution I was thinking of

but didn't want to go that far but remember, people have been jailed before when they are a public health threat and refuse to protect others. Refusing a vaccination when there is no medical reason you can't have one, is refusing to protect your fellow citizens