A new America First Caucus... is recruiting people to join based "Anglo-Saxon political traditions"

[demmiblue]

A new America First Caucus — led by @mtgreenee and @RepGosar— is recruiting people to join based on “Anglo-Saxon political traditions” architectural style that “befits the progeny of European architecture”

Some of the most nativist stuff we’ve seen

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[demmiblue]

1. More:

[Ocelot II]

5. "It sounded better in the original German...."

That was Molly Ivins' comment about Pat Buchanan's speech at the 1992 GOP convention, but it fits this mess just as well.

[Nevilledog]

28. Gaetz going all in

Link to tweet

[demmiblue]

29. Ugh.

These people.

I hope that Gaetz gets his comeuppance.

[smirkymonkey]

34. "Intellectual boldness"

[TreasonousBastard]

2. Architecture, too? These people are just fucking nuts.

[Ocelot II]

6. Too bad Albert Speer is no longer with us.

[demmiblue]

11. This stems back to Trump and his desire to replace the FBI building...

and his Executive Order regarding classical architecture (imo, of course).

[demmiblue]

14. P.S. Biden nixed that pretty quick:

President Biden Revokes Trump's Controversial Classical Architecture Order

Arbiters of good taste often disagree. That is certainly true of architecture.

Late Wednesday, President Biden revoked a controversial executive order that then-President Donald Trump signed in December called "Promoting Beautiful Federal Civic Architecture." The announcement from the White House was included in an executive order that revokes a number of Trump's actions as president.

When Trump first proposed his executive order, it was clearly an out-with-the-new, in-with-the-old approach to architecture. He called modern federal buildings constructed over the last five decades (think boxy, concrete-heavy Brutalism) "undistinguished," "uninspiring" and "just plain ugly."

While the specifics are not yet clear, Biden's executive order instructs the director of the Office of Management and Budget and any related departments and agencies to "promptly consider taking steps to rescind any orders, rules, regulations, guidelines, or policies, or portions thereof" that would've implemented Trump's actions. Biden also calls for the abolishment of any "personnel positions, committees, task forces, or other entities established" to fulfill Trump's actions, "as appropriate and consistent with applicable law." This will likely eliminate Trump's Council on Improving Federal Civic Architecture, which was established in his executive order.

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/25/971312635/president-biden-revokes-trumps-controversial-classical-architecture-order

[TreasonousBastard]

16. Sounds like it. But, I side with the French (our ally in that war against the Anglo Saxons)...

who seem to have realized that any decent architecture deserves a huge fight over it.

Whatever... Trump's concept of architecture is not what we should aspire to.

[Bettie]

3. Not "Nativist",

it is open White Supremacy.

[Caliman73]

27. Fascism fits too.

Fascism is obsessed with ultra nationalism, some kind of mythical traditional past, and painting a picture of a once proud society that has been weakened by foreign hoardes and degenerates.

[Bettie]

31. Actually, that fits even better

my husband read this and said it sounds "Hitleresque".

Of course, that was probably what they were going for.

[Caliman73]

32. Mussolini too.

When Mussolini made his fascist turn he relied heavily on the myth and glory of the old Roman Empire. He was going to take Italy back to those days when Rome ruled the known world.

Myth and story are very important to fascists. They have no real policy to make people's lives better so they rely on nostalgia and lies to promise a "rebirth". It really is a losers philosophy and you can tell by the founders of the caucus (Kosar and Greene) that the loserest among the losers are in charge.

[Haggard Celine]

4. Yeah, Hitler was into architecture as well.

MTG and the rest want the right buildings to be a base for the new reich.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

7. Traditions like feudalism?

Where a king and his lords are in charge, and the serfs aren't allowed to leave unless they're granted permission?

[WarGamer]

8. I don't like to give valuable advice to a-hole RW'ers...

But with their recent success and inroads with Hispanics, they should be running to microphones speaking Spanish and taking advantage of the Conservative leaning Hispanic culture...



morons.

[Elessar Zappa]

10. They didn't make any inroads in NM or AZ among Hispanics.

Biden won the hispanic vote by the same margin as other Democratic candidates. Texas and Florida is a different story but there's no indication the increased Hispanic Repub support there is permanent. It could be a one time deal due to Trump's name on the ballot.

[WarGamer]

12. Possible.

But it's a demographic they SHOULD be cultivating.

[UTUSN]

9. Was going to say just from the title, slap a Hate group label on them just with the name!

[Retrograde]

13. The Neo-Know Nothings?

"Gosar" and "Gohmert" don't sound like Anglo-Saxon names to me.

And the modernist architecture they claim they don't like had its roots in Europe

[smirkymonkey]

35. I have a feeling that a majority of them aren't techinically "Anglo-Saxon".

What a bunch of idiots!

[Voltaire2]

15. Not even bothering to dog-whistle 'Whites Only'.

[Caliman73]

33. It is better for us if they don't use the dog whistle.

The enemy you can see is less dangerous than the one you can't. I prefer that we have a full on White Supremacy caucus in the Republican Party. Now we can hammer McCarthy and McConnell about why they are tolerating a fascist movement within their own Party.

[dalton99a]

17. Madison Square Garden, May 17, 1934

[demmiblue]

20. Pretty much. n/t

[demmiblue]

30. Just putting this here:

[nuxvomica]

37. That could appear in any major daily today

And if anyone objects, we could say they are trying to cancel Dr. Seuss.

[demmiblue]

38. Lol!

[BoringUsername]

18. So they're into European anglo-saxon political traditions like universal healthcare?

😎 😆

[area51]

39. I wish.

Single-payer healthcare is cheaper than our current system.

[cagefreesoylentgreen]

19. I guess that means Irish and Italians need not apply either?

[hatrack]

21. How about an Anglo-Saxon legal code? Some examples:

The leader of the village would use the laws written by the King to decide what punishments you would receive.

The church and local lords had the power to decide punishments. The church had its own courts and a different system of punishment.

The Anglo-Saxons didn't have prisons. Most people found guilty of crimes were punished with fines.

Some crimes, such as treason against the king or betraying your lord, were thought to be so serious that they carried the death penalty.

Regular offenders were punished very harshly. If they were found guilty of stealing more than once they might have their hands cut off.

Weregild

Weregild, which means 'blood price', was a system of fines where, if you injured someone, the victim received money.

The King set the fines and there was a system of payments:

12 shillings for a broken thigh.
20 shillings for the loss of a thumb.
50 shillings the loss of an eye.

If a person killed someone, they paid the weregild fine to the dead person's relatives.

Trial by ordeal

If a jury couldn't decide if a person was innocent or guilty then there was the option of 'trial by ordeal'. Examples of ordeals were:

Walking at least nine feet on hot coals.
Putting your handing boiling water to retrieve a stone.
Picking up a red hot iron.
If your wounds healed cleanly after 3 days, then you were considered to be innocent in the eyes of God.

Did you know?

Before weregild was developed, early Saxon Kings allowed victims of crimes to punish criminals themselves. So, if someone was murdered, the family had the right to track down and kill the murderer. This obviously led to more violence.

EDIT

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/topics/z8w3n9q/articles/zxhqkty

[demmiblue]

22. The full document:

https://punchbowl.news/wp-content/uploads/America-First-Caucus-Policy-Platform-FINAL-2.pdf

[East-A-Squared]

23. Because ku klux Klan is so 20th century?

[usajumpedtheshark]

24. So they are going to immigrate to a different country, take control of it and then whine about

immigrants? Anglo-Saxons where Germanic tribes who invaded England after the Romans left. I wonder if party members will have to be pagans as well.

[malaise]

25. Full blown white supremacy

Ah well!

[Leith]

26. Even Gosar?

Funny - Gosar is a Slovenian name. Perhaps he can discuss all things Anglo-Saxon with the former WH soft porn "actress."

[Dorian Gray]

36. That's real

Nazi-Era Hitler wannabe shit.

Fuck them.