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Biden will keep Trump's historically low cap on refugee admissions. (Original Post) Xoan Apr 2021 OP
Good! Much as I sympathize with the plight of the displaced Hortensis Apr 2021 #1
"anxiety/rage" isn't a good reason to do anything uponit7771 Apr 2021 #5
And almost always incite very, very bad attitudes and actions. Hortensis Apr 2021 #10
I stayed home AZProgressive Apr 2021 #14
Seeing as we are taking in the children, it seems like the right thing to do. secondwind Apr 2021 #2
Maybe Joe's got infrastructure plans for the willfully ignorant Backseat Driver Apr 2021 #3
I'd love to take in as many as possible jimfields33 Apr 2021 #4
Are we a nation of immigrants? If so why not surge processing of immigrants to become citizens? tia uponit7771 Apr 2021 #6
Fine with me. jimfields33 Apr 2021 #7
Never been an issue, they can all do what people from Europe did after WWII and we can enforce IRCA uponit7771 Apr 2021 #8
We're 174th in the world in population density wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #9
+1, ... and there's only 195 countries on the planet !!! WOW !!! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #11
We're a large country geographically with 4+% of the world's population. Hortensis Apr 2021 #12
Where do you come up with the statistic that the US is the wealthiest nation on the planet? Bev54 Apr 2021 #15
According to what metrics? China's been coming up fast, Hortensis Apr 2021 #17
I fully support our president in this. Lunabell Apr 2021 #13
Not true. There will be an increase finalised next month, just not to the hoped-for 62,500. Eid Ma Clack Shaw Apr 2021 #16

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
1. Good! Much as I sympathize with the plight of the displaced
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 03:03 PM
Apr 2021

and desperate, we have to stabilize this nation or else (!), and anxiety/rage over this issue is being used to fuel an overthrow of our government.

And after that would come concentration/deportation (one hopes!) camps in the desert for hundreds of thousands of immigrants and others. Trump et al were already planning them when stopped. God knows how many would die in them, but no one should have any illusions that their conditions would be anything approaching humane.

AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
14. I stayed home
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 04:45 PM
Apr 2021

Why should I care what they want? I also can't commit any felonies either or my VA benefits will be reduced.

If you want to stabilize this nation pass a voting rights bill. Arizona has 23 voter suppression bills all sponsored by the GOP and that is actually my top my concern right now. I stayed home and voted for Biden and Democrats down ballot so I'm not interested in their concerns.

I have a lot of sympathy for Democratic voters in Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin because Republicans didn't want their vote to count. The fact that RW militias stormed the Capitol while Republicans objected to Arizona's electoral votes fueled a lot of anxiety and rage in me but I'm just an Arizona voter that would like my vote to count.

Backseat Driver

(4,381 posts)
3. Maybe Joe's got infrastructure plans for the willfully ignorant
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 03:12 PM
Apr 2021

and lawless GQP, et al, that arrived here as the twinkles/dreams of the seekers and doers of a better life, and now don't promote "liberty and justice for all" in favor of their ever-growing personal portfolios. BUSTED! We can do a lot better at that when there's a longer vision for making it so. May the force be with you, Joe!

jimfields33

(15,705 posts)
4. I'd love to take in as many as possible
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 03:48 PM
Apr 2021

But we’re already the 3rd most populated country in the World. How much can our land take in? WE do need a study on various water, housing, electric, ect. 340 million in the country. Climate change is more difficult to control with more population. If not for that, we could have a billion and I wouldn’t care.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
8. Never been an issue, they can all do what people from Europe did after WWII and we can enforce IRCA
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 04:05 PM
Apr 2021

... laws

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
9. We're 174th in the world in population density
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 04:06 PM
Apr 2021

That's why so many rural towns are dying: not enough immigrants to revitalize them like they did in the old days.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. We're a large country geographically with 4+% of the world's population.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 04:23 PM
Apr 2021

It's been awhile, but the professor of an urban studies class I once took at UCLA pointed out that, as far as space goes, the entire population of the U.S. then could be comfortably concentrated on both coasts. It's not that much different now, though.

We're by far the wealthiest nation on the planet, and we're also one of the top drivers of global warming. Everything we've been doing we can do much better, be better off ourselves, and cause future generations to shake their heads in wonder at the criminal irresponsibility of our times.

Bev54

(10,039 posts)
15. Where do you come up with the statistic that the US is the wealthiest nation on the planet?
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 04:51 PM
Apr 2021

I do believe the US is the 12th.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. According to what metrics? China's been coming up fast,
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 05:16 PM
Apr 2021

but just think, how LIKELY is it that 10 (!) other nations are wealthier than the planet's only current superpower and still the planet's leader in scientific and technological innovation, though in that many others are catching up fast.

It's no accident, btw, that in spite of Trump/Repub's emptying the national treasury and trying to hold back response to the pandemic, we nevertheless developed 3 of the worlds best vaccines (German company codeveloper on one; more in development); are able to provide government paid medical care for Covid patients, issue stimulus checks by the hundreds of millions; and will soon have everyone (in a nation of over 325 million) who consents vaccinated.

Lunabell

(6,046 posts)
13. I fully support our president in this.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 04:40 PM
Apr 2021

Until the pandemic is under full control, I want the borders closed to all. I do mean all. No business or vacationers either.

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
16. Not true. There will be an increase finalised next month, just not to the hoped-for 62,500.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 04:55 PM
Apr 2021



I trust AOC and company will tweet this clarification to their outraged followers post-haste.
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