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hatrack

(59,574 posts)
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 04:59 PM Apr 2021

Well, Whaddya Know? "Hillbilly Elegy" Author J.D. Vance Is Exactly The Asshole We Thought He Was

JD Vance, the author of the best-selling “Hillbilly Elegy,” has exited the board of directors of AppHarvest, according to an emailed statement from the $1.6 billion indoor agriculture company.

The newly public Kentucky firm announced Vance’s departure, in response to a Bloomberg News inquiry about some of Vance’s recent statements. On Twitter, he’d written that taxes should be raised on businesses that oppose a new spate of state-level voting restrictions.

He also called Fox News host Tucker Carlson “the only powerful figure who consistently challenge elites dogma,” after Carlson came under fire for saying that “the Democratic party is trying to replace the current electorate,” a frequent talking point of white supremacists.

Vance, who is currently a partner at venture capital firm Narya Capital Management LLC and is often mentioned as a possible candidate for political office, didn’t respond immediately to a request for comment sent through LinkedIn.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/hillbilly-elegy-author-exits-board-of-agtech-company/ar-BB1fCSDq?ocid=entnewsntp

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Well, Whaddya Know? "Hillbilly Elegy" Author J.D. Vance Is Exactly The Asshole We Thought He Was (Original Post) hatrack Apr 2021 OP
Still have not seen the Netflix film of the same name. ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2021 #1
I saw the movie and hated it. Not surprising because I hated the book too liberal_mama Apr 2021 #7
If you hated the book why watch the movie? Luciferous Apr 2021 #23
I love Amy Adams and thought it might be entertaining, but it was just depressing liberal_mama Apr 2021 #32
So a guy who wrote about Hillbillies is conservative Sympthsical Apr 2021 #2
Not conservative. That descriptor doesn't exist anymore. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2021 #9
So you're just out over there Sympthsical Apr 2021 #15
Well that came out of nowhere. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2021 #20
John Prine had something to say about that - GoneOffShore Apr 2021 #24
Not everyone in Appalachia would agree Vance was an authority on anything but his own life. Solly Mack Apr 2021 #3
Appalachian Reckoning is very good Withywindle Apr 2021 #14
Thanks! I'll get the book. Solly Mack Apr 2021 #21
Thank you for the recs Maeve Apr 2021 #28
Whatever his politics, kskiska Apr 2021 #4
It's important to remember that White Supremacists/Fascists have always been and abqtommy Apr 2021 #5
I'm sick of the squeaky wheel getting all the grease. Boomerproud Apr 2021 #18
I appreciate what you're saying. But there are many fascist groups around the world abqtommy Apr 2021 #19
In hindsight Vance's coming out is not entirely a surprise, wouldn't have Hortensis Apr 2021 #6
I read "Hillbilly Elegy" before I knew anything about him. PETRUS Apr 2021 #8
Same here! GusBob Apr 2021 #10
Isn't this jackass considering running for the senate somewhere? n/t Bev54 Apr 2021 #11
Ohio zeusdogmom Apr 2021 #13
J.D. Vance Jilly_in_VA Apr 2021 #12
Too late - That appears to have been his condition for years. GoneOffShore Apr 2021 #25
racist asshole JI7 Apr 2021 #16
He's not even from there! Withywindle Apr 2021 #17
Parts of Ohio can be considered Appalachia North FakeNoose Apr 2021 #22
Same with Pennsyltucky. GoneOffShore Apr 2021 #26
Yep FakeNoose Apr 2021 #29
Yes but not a county that borders Indiana! Withywindle Apr 2021 #33
I just started watching the movie and the guy freaks out at a fancy dinner because betsuni Apr 2021 #27
you start from the outside utensils and move in harumph Apr 2021 #30
People are still running that gag? gratuitous Apr 2021 #31

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
32. I love Amy Adams and thought it might be entertaining, but it was just depressing
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 02:49 PM
Apr 2021

I was hoping it might be a fun watch like The Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia. That was one of my favorites. I watched it like 10x and laughed so hard. What a freak show!

Ferrets are Cool

(21,102 posts)
9. Not conservative. That descriptor doesn't exist anymore.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 05:42 PM
Apr 2021

Repuq's, racists and insurrectionists work much better.

Sympthsical

(9,037 posts)
15. So you're just out over there
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 08:01 PM
Apr 2021

And don't see humans as humans anymore. Ok. That has never gone wrong in our history.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,102 posts)
20. Well that came out of nowhere.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 11:04 PM
Apr 2021

Would you care to explain? I said they are not conservatives. I said NOTHING about being human.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
3. Not everyone in Appalachia would agree Vance was an authority on anything but his own life.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 05:30 PM
Apr 2021
Appalachian Reckoning is a retort, at turns rigorous, critical, angry, and hopeful, to the long shadow Hillbilly Elegy has cast over the region and its imagining. But it also moves beyond Hillbilly Elegy to allow Appalachians from varied backgrounds to tell their own diverse and complex stories through an imaginative blend of scholarship, prose, poetry, and photography. The essays and creative work collected in Appalachian Reckoning provide a deeply personal portrait of a place that is at once culturally rich and economically distressed, unique and typically American. Complicating simplistic visions that associate the region almost exclusively with death and decay, Appalachian Reckoning makes clear Appalachia’s intellectual vitality, spiritual richness, and progressive possibilities.



IOW, Vance does NOT speak for Appalachia. Nor should he be considered the voice for people of the Appalachian Mountains. He is merely a voice of his own experience and how he defined those experiences.

That said, Vance is a POS.



Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
14. Appalachian Reckoning is very good
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 07:59 PM
Apr 2021

I also recommend What You Are Getting Wrong About Appalachia by Elizabeth Catte, which was specifically written as a rebuttal to Vance's spurious claims and bad history.

Maeve

(42,271 posts)
28. Thank you for the recs
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 07:41 AM
Apr 2021

I saw many people I know in Vance's book but not the Appalachians I know best---I look forward to reading the better books.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
5. It's important to remember that White Supremacists/Fascists have always been and
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 05:32 PM
Apr 2021

remain a minority even among us White Folk, let alone the world population of our diverse
ethnic groups. Let's all be sure to keep them that way!

Boomerproud

(7,940 posts)
18. I'm sick of the squeaky wheel getting all the grease.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 08:07 PM
Apr 2021

With so many problems in the world it's exhausting how much attention these asses get.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
19. I appreciate what you're saying. But there are many fascist groups around the world
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 08:15 PM
Apr 2021

and not all of them are white-skinned. We ignore any of them at our peril.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. In hindsight Vance's coming out is not entirely a surprise, wouldn't have
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 05:35 PM
Apr 2021

been if I'd known he was going to run for office as a Republican. As an author, just like many L and R in academia, he might otherwise have continued to maintain a more respectable cover for professional reasons.

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
8. I read "Hillbilly Elegy" before I knew anything about him.
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 05:40 PM
Apr 2021

Probably less than halfway through the book, it was clear to me that he's both a shallow thinker and very right wing.

GoneOffShore

(17,337 posts)
25. Too late - That appears to have been his condition for years.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 07:33 AM
Apr 2021

It appears he won the award for Rectal Cranial Insertion when he was in college.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
17. He's not even from there!
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 08:02 PM
Apr 2021

Summers with grandma in Kentucky but come on, he's from western Ohio. He's a poser.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
33. Yes but not a county that borders Indiana!
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 03:05 PM
Apr 2021

It ain't Appalachia if it's FLAT!

But definitely yes, the areas near WV and northeastern KY are Appalachian for sure.

betsuni

(25,377 posts)
27. I just started watching the movie and the guy freaks out at a fancy dinner because
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 07:40 AM
Apr 2021

he doesn't know which utensils to use, just like in "Pretty Woman." NOBODY except upper class people know this. Middle class people don't know, it's not a lower class thing.

harumph

(1,893 posts)
30. you start from the outside utensils and move in
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:00 AM
Apr 2021

small fork is for salad. spoon with larger bowl is for soup. typically you don't see
a lot of utensils unless there's 4 courses. if unsure and intimidated, take control - set yourself apart and ask the waiter to serve the
salad last as is done in Italy. American custom serves the salad first - which is stupid because it's a palate cleanser
and fiber. American custom also swaps the fork and knife between the same hand - it's absurd.
the best way is to nonchalantly show you don't give a fuck for custom without
resorting to coarseness. I was required at one time to attend such bullshit dinners.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
31. People are still running that gag?
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 11:14 AM
Apr 2021

Jeez, it was superannuated in 1981 when WKRP did it with Dr. Johnny Fever (can't find a clip, but here's the transcript):

Dr. Johnny Fever : No, no, no, Patricia, you're wrong.

Patricia : Well, I just don't know what I'm going to...

Dr. Johnny Fever : [cutting Patricia off] Right, right, right, wait a second. Would you just listen to me, please.

Patricia : Uh, all right.

Dr. Johnny Fever : Okay, because you don't want to look like a fool, right? Right?

Patricia : No.

Dr. Johnny Fever : Okay. So now listen very carefully because I'm not always going to be here to help you. Okay? So you always want to start on these things from the outside. That'll lead you naturally, organically, into those inner areas, and that's where all the real action is. Okay? Now, what's furthest out is the salad fork, and the soup spoon. Then, the tea spoon, okay?

Patricia : [with a panic in her voice] What side?

Dr. Johnny Fever : On the right. Big fork is on the inside left, and the dessert spoon is above.

Patricia : [with a continued panic in her voice] Above what?

Dr. Johnny Fever : Pat, Pat, Pat, Patricia. I tell you what. Put the napkin over your head and eat with your hands. Okay we've got a lot of calls...
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