Looking for sober comments . . . . will the former guy be charged in any way for Jan 6 events?

[Stinky The Clown]

As has been said, the insurrection investigation is likely to be the most complicated case in DOJ history.

[Rorey]

1. I hope I'm wrong

I don't have faith that he'll be charged for the insurrection that he incited. I'm much more confident that he'll be facing lawsuits from some of those he incited.

[Lochloosa]

2. Short answer..no.

Most likely financial charges.

[Cicada]

3. No, if Georgia capitol is stormed should our leaders be charged?

If we say the new laws are racist, that we should March on the state senate to protest a scheduled vote on the New laws, and violence erupts, should the leaders of the March be indicted? Indicting Trump would lead to indictments of protest leaders everywhere. We need to define free speech very broadly.

[Hekate]

4. Did you read the same OP I did? Trump fomented seditious rebellion, not "protest"

There’s a real huge difference.

[Cicada]

9. Damaging the state capitol in Georgia is illegal. So there is not a difference which precludes prote

Who protests more, republican or dems? Protests often involve cations which might be viewed as illegal, like looting or arson. If we charge organizers or promoters of protests as liable for such ancillary crimes it will hurt democrats a lot more than Republicans. And more importantly it will discourage political protest. To protect political dissent I want free speech to be interpreted extremely broadly. That is why I oppose indicating Trump for his horrible incitement of the Jan 6 sedition. I pretty much oppose almost all sedition laws. They do more to suppress legitimate dissent than prevent very rare real sedition. In fact they pretty much only suppress legit political dissent.

[Hekate]

17. "Protests often involve...looting or arson." I have participated in innumerable protests...

...during my life, and not one involved violence against people or destruction of property.

I don’t know who you hang out with, but First Amendment rights pertain to words, petitions, loud debate, marches — not incitement to riot, insurrection, looting, arson, murder, or civil war. Those actions are against the law. January 6 was an insurrection and Trump et al were inciting it.

[Hekate]

5. He should be, but the US judicial system seems to have no appetite for that...

...kind of action against former US Presidents. Trump tried to get us into a civil war, and his erstwhile followers STILL are.

Parlous times, Stinky, parlous times.

ETA: is this what you were referring to? https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215344725

[Stinky The Clown]

11. Not really about that thread particularly, but that was part of it

What really got me thinking - and actually kinda hopeful - was the news of the first guilty plea was in. The guy is a leader of The Oath Keepers. He's also flipped and must now testify as requested to federal, state, and local authorities. He is also going into the witness protection program. Add to that the DOJ describing their investigation into the lead-up to January 6 as the most complex in the history of the DOJ.

This all tells me he has a LOT to tell and the DOJ is pulling on a lot of threads.

I will also postulate the goal is to get to the biggest fish before the 2024 election just to be sure someone like former guy doesn't throw wrenches into the gears and sand in the gas tank.

[Arthur_Frain]

6. Regardless

There will be no time served, because if they got that domino to fall, there’s a shit ton of dominoes in Congress. Too many can’t allow that.

[David__77]

7. I think a problem is that the issue is being narrowly defined.

The coup attempt involved so much more than the events at the Capitol building. So much so that former defense secretaries made an anti-coup statement prior to those events. The conspiracy was much broader and far-reaching.

[BigmanPigman]

8. I forgot about that. You're right.

The conspiracy is much broader.

[Demsrule86]

15. He is too slippery. You will never catch them...he is like a mob boss...where they say stuff but

don't actually say stuff.

[hlthe2b]

10. He SHOULD, but likely won't. I have more faith in the state prosecutions.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. No.

[Bettie]

13. Probably not

I'm guessing he'll skate on everything as will his odious spawn.

[Demsrule86]

14. I don't think so. Trump is very good about giving orders without actually saying it.

[kentuck]

16. It has been 101 days since the event.

I think there may be a time limit on DOJ's effort to charge him?

The division simply would not be worth the effort.

But, in my opinion, they should charge a few around him. They could start with Rudy and Don Jr. and work their way up.

Whatever decision they make, the question will remain, "Just how important is justice?"