From Al Jazeera: The Boogaloo movement has a new strategy

[abqtommy]

And it's not good for children or other living things. Fascists and Anarchists are dangerous
people and the best thing we can do is lock them all up. In reading the entire article I
never did find an explanation of where "Agora" fits into all this or what it is exactly but if it's part of this new strategy then it's not good. I had enough to worry about before reading this...

from article:

*Members of the anti-government Boogaloo movement are adopting a new strategy to achieve the end of the US government, members tell Al Jazeera.

Adherents are calling for cooperation with left-wing organisations – previously considered adversaries by some in the Boogaloo – to foster a mass withdrawal from the political and economic systems overseen by the United States government.

Based on the political philosophy “agorism”, it aims to bleed the government of tax funds through a “Counter-Economy”, compliance with laws and mandates given by voters.

The desired result: the collapse of the US government through “death by a thousand cuts”.*

much more text and photos at link

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/16/holdagorism-what-is-the-ideologyoftheboogaloobois

I can't see anti-fa becoming allies with anarchists and fascists but then what do I know?
Talk me down. Please.

[gab13by13]

1. Antifa isn't an organization.

[abqtommy]

4. You're techincally correct. But during WWII the political and military group known as

The Allies were all antifa and they were organized.

[TheBlackAdder]

6. Wait! I spent $59.99 and got my 'Welcome' packet with ID card, Banner, Flag & T-Shirt.

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Don't forget the secret handshake.



Shh. It's secret so don't tell anyone.





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[WhiteTara]

10. I'm on the potluck committee

what dish are you bringing. Remember there will be millions, so choose wisely!

[Dorian Gray]

2. I've been talking about this

the alignment of the far right and far left movements.

The confusion over the Jan 6th with right wingers saying antifa took part. There are definitely provocateurs who align with chaos/anarchy on both sides, and their worldview isn't much more than that....

I can see a natural anti-government/anti-corporate alignment forming between elements of both movements.

What I don't know is whether that alignment will be embraced by people other than the most provocative.

EDITED TO ADD: Antifa isn't a movement with a structural leadership. Anybody can go to those protests. There will be overlap. Career protestors and agitators.

[AZProgressive]

3. Boogaloo Bois has a white supremacy strain and libertarian anti-government extremists

They can fool people into thinking they have left-wing views when they claim to be for BLM and LGBT.

Is the boogaloo movement ‘leftist’?

No, though there are people involved who may hold views that are more in alignment with left-leaning ideologies, like support for Black Lives Matter and LGBTQ equality.

Leftists and members of the boogaloo movement might, on the surface, appear to hold similar positions on policing, but their goals are vastly different. Left-wing political movements want to root out systemic racism that plagues law enforcement while investing in healthcare, community programs, housing and other resources and programs that that can begin to remedy deeply entrenched racial and economic inequality. Boogaloo adherents want to dismantle law enforcement and the current political order itself through a civil war. For them, the state can only be a source of tyranny, and has no meaningful role to play in the redistribution of resources or in providing protections for groups that have historically been marginalized and discriminated against.

Currently, some right-wing media outlets, especially, are trying to paint the boogaloo movement as leftist in what seem to be attempts to deny right-wing responsibility for years of right-wing radicalization. They appear to be attempting to lay blame for the violent insurrection at the Capitol at the feet of leftists, and not radicalized right-wing supporters of Donald Trump.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2021/01/27/who-are-boogaloos-who-were-visible-capitol-and-later-rallies

At the same time the right wing media was portraying them as Leftist Jimmy Dore invited a Boogaloo on which freaked me out since he gave him a platform to reach left wing viewers when usually these groups are forced to recruit in RW circles.

I knew it was going to lead to trouble.

Link to tweet

[abqtommy]

14. Thanks for your perspective. It's time for me to renew my contact with The SPLC.

[rogerashton]

5. won't fly

Left groups are committed to anti-racism and egalitarianism, and while a few are anarchists, this is anarcho-communism. They will not work with the Boogaloo bois whom they regard as racists (mostly, I think, correctly.) This shows in the al-Jazeera art.
"Agorism," from the Greek agora, a marketplace, is an attempt to theorize left-anarchism on the basis of pro-market "Austrian" economics, never a movement of any importance. Their strategy -- of withdrawing from the legitimate market economy and so starving the state -- was also shared by the left-anarchists of the 60's and 70's; that was what originally took Bernie to Vermont. But that strategy works a bit better for anarchist-communists, since they work together in their local communes; and. the Kibbutz movement shows that in some circumstances it may have some success. But if that leads the Bois to give up their violence, that would be good. They will then grow into the same obscure old age that I share with the agorists.

[blm]

8. Russian ops working the left. The JimmyDore-Assange worshippers who

admire Putin.

[David__77]

9. I think there has been a firm line against Boogaloo on the left.

Anti-fascist activists, including those who may identify as anarchist, have exposed “Boogaloo” and “ancaps” (anarchism-capitalists) as being either a gateway to white supremacy or pro-white supremacy.

I’m pretty sure that in many cities such people would be vigorously confronted if identified, and there are people looking.

[gratuitous]

11. Uh oh, they're going to withhold their taxes?

My goodness, how can the government possibly continue to function without the Boogaloos' combined total of $127.16 in taxes?

[Hugin]

13. They had to do something after the boy-cotts failed.

Only giving free adverts to those despicable companies with opinions.

This sounds like they're going to soon get ripped off in the cyber currency scams.

[Politicub]

12. Russian infiltration of liberal and leftist groups was covered extensively

in the Mueller report. Russian operatives and their right-wing useful idiots would engage with left-leaning groups to earn trust. They would then organize protests against democratic politicians, but the right-wing provocateur-organizers would not show up. The CIA perfected this technique, and the right weaponized it.

There were right-wing idiots who thought they were being clever, but they were merely stupid pawns manipulated to carry out fascist ends.

Most of the people who make up the Boogaloo crowd are stunted and low-intellect. The organizers know this, too, and use them to create chaos.

This is not conspiracy-theory talk — it is documented and sourced by the report. Problem is, people didn’t read it and couldn’t get past the “no collusion” garbage from the orange one’s anus-shaped mouth.