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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLeast Vaccinated Counties Have Something in Common
April 17, 2021 at 7:33 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
New York Times: The disparity in vaccination rates has so far mainly broken down along political lines. The New York Times examined survey and vaccine administration data for nearly every U.S. county and found that both willingness to receive a vaccine and actual vaccination rates to date were lower, on average, in counties where a majority of residents voted to re-elect former President Donald J. Trump in 2020. The phenomenon has left some places with a shortage of supply and others with a glut.
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https://politicalwire.com/2021/04/17/least-vaccinated-counties-have-something-in-common/
calimary
(81,110 posts)the impact of trump?
I dream of the day that dreadful name carries no weight or significance, and means nothing.
Rhiannon12866
(204,779 posts)Botany
(70,447 posts)n/t
calimary
(81,110 posts)I await that day with increasing impatience.
Because I really DONT want to wait another minute for that day. The sooner that monster fades from view, the better.
Botany
(70,447 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:50 AM - Edit history (1)
trying to violently overthrow the government, responsible for something like 5% of all the
credit card fraud in America (grifting his supporters), and on and on and on would chase 'em
away but some are still loyal. BTW I was talking to a political scientist @ my dad's funeral
and he said Trump has a 25% base that will never leave him because he scratches their racist
itch.
Orrex
(63,172 posts)So they will worship him until the last of the, is dead, and all that pesky reality-based stuff that you mentioned will carry no weight with them.
Harker
(13,977 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)It is taught from the perspective of something that must never happen again. Here, we barely focus on the Holocaust (sort of the it was bad, bad people did these things, lets move on approach). Not much about the political views that gave rise to Nazism or any real analysis of how Hitler used propaganda and selective violence to achieve power and carry out his destructive white nationalist agenda. And certainly no comparison of our own homegrown white nationalism and right-wing propaganda media as tools to foment racism and violence in the US, all to retain power for white people.
I dont know whether to call Greenes comments total ignorance or Machiavellian manipulation to support white nationalist goals of white power and minority extinction. .
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,202 posts)The German people were smarter than trump supporters.
Gore1FL
(21,099 posts)KPN
(15,636 posts)flying on the peak of a ramshackle little house in my county just yesterday. Ugh!
FoxNewsSucks
(10,417 posts)Orrex
(63,172 posts)Many of the homes are much like you describe, dilapidated hovels on the verge of being condemned, yet still the occupants worship him.
I did a job in a trailer court a few months ago most of the units in terrible condition but proudly displaying Trump signs. Trump wouldnt allow these people anwhere near him or his family or his beloved Ma-a-lago, yet they think that hes their guy.
Madness.
birdographer
(1,309 posts)has a Trump 2024 flag (bright orange, seems ironic), an American flag, and a Confederate flag flying from his front deck. Kind of a junky yard with always at least 6 cars parked around it.
PatSeg
(47,270 posts)The impact of any president, good or bad, can last for years. We are still living with the effects of Reagan's deregulations and GW Bush's insane wars. Trump will fade away, but there will always be reminders here and there, which I suppose is a good thing. May we never forget lest we become politically apathetic.
Unwittingly, Trump revealed many societal problems that needed to be addressed, including systemic racism throughout our society and institutions. I suppose in many respects that was a good thing, though I wish we would have done that without him.
As for that "dreadful name", it really should always mean something, a reminder of how close we came to losing our democracy. It should be synonymous with American Tyrant and reviled the same as Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin. But yes, I know what you meant and I too hope the day will come when that awful name and that horrible man has no power whatsoever.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)so probably never
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)I'm kind of sorry I lived long enough to see him become relevant, much less president. My daily barf at that fact.
Botany
(70,447 posts)MissMillie
(38,533 posts)you'd think his brainless minions would just fall in line. They do for everything else he says.
modrepub
(3,491 posts)and the GQP went bonkers.
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mean they were angry she got vaccinated?
IrishAfricanAmerican
(3,813 posts)They're certifiable!
Rebl2
(13,469 posts)Their dear leader got the vaccine too! They must hate him now also. I just dont understand how they can be so foolish. My next door neighbors, who both have serious health issues, said they arent going to get it because they dont trust it. I dont see them as being far right type people.
modrepub
(3,491 posts)QAnon Is Freaking Out Over Ivanka Trumps COVID Vaccine Photo:
[link:https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3dzgv/qanon-is-freaking-out-over-ivanka-trumps-covid-vaccine-photo|
Some QAnon followers believe that Ivanka Trump has been executed by her father after she posted a picture of herself being given a vaccine.
This is just one of many conspiracy theories that exploded on QAnon channels after Trump posted a picture on Twitter of herself getting a COVID-19 vaccine on Wednesday.
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)They called her a traitor.
They said it's a deep fake.
They're livid.
It's a hoax, but we're not giving enough credit to TFG for the vaccine they won't take. They want to go back to normal, but refuse to do things that allow us to open up.
Among other things, the former guy obliterated trust in expertise and science. Anti intellectualism on par with the Dark ages.
I can only hope they infect each other and reduce the number of christofascist voters for the next go-round.
DFW
(54,295 posts)I hope that natural selection does some serious selecting before the midterms.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,417 posts)Problem is, those MAGAt morons can spread it to normal people. And they serve as incubators for mutations.
DFW
(54,295 posts)I dont care if they all die choking, if that is their choice, but I care plenty if they stick around long enough to spread some mutation against which my vaccine cant protect me.
Botany
(70,447 posts)... so selfish that their warped thinking and political agenda keeps us from getting the
pandemic behind us then they can die. Matter of fact how about giving 'em cyanide
capsules?
DFW
(54,295 posts)The so-called pro-life crowd would like nothing better than to force us to take them.
Botany
(70,447 posts).... get the vaccine right now or take the cyanide. But the cyanide would just be sugar water.
Fox News is still spreading anti vaccine toxic mind pollution.
We could put an end to this pandemic PDQ 'cept for some republican governors and others
want the disease to keep going so Biden doesn't get a win.
MyMission
(1,849 posts)They all have guns or access to them anyway, and love reality TV. GQP, Macho idiots, self righteous prigs, manipulators, wannabes...
Let them blow their brains out and broadcast it. I won't be watching but maybe after enough cult members die from that some will realize they might as well get the vaccine.
Of course, there would be a large number of folks who would pursue victory til the end.
As I write this I just thought it would be a good way to get rid of them and guns (when they die their guns are taken) and for them to vent their blood lust, like ancient battles in the coliseum. Faux news would broadcast it. If 45 was the MC it could really take off. Lol Of course they'd rather go after minorities and the disenfranchised, but with Russian roulette we could get rid of a bunch of them and make them happy in the process.
liberaltrucker
(9,129 posts)c-rational
(2,588 posts)Botany
(70,447 posts)n/t
c-rational
(2,588 posts)BoringUsername
(142 posts)For example, my county has the second largest population center in the state, but the local hospital and didn't setup the mass vaccination site here until end of March. Other places in the state had one at least a month or more before us. My county is trailing behind in vaccination rate because of that...but I will tell you people seem to want to get vaccinated in my city because the hospitals mass vaccination clinic is totally booked up and impossible to get anything at the pharmacies around here too. You have to drive 50 miles from here to find a free appointment.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)gab13by13
(21,264 posts)I signed up in 3 counties and when I got notified I canceled my other applications. I got my vaccine in another county at a pharmacy. The pharmacy was more organized than our local hospital.
patphil
(6,150 posts)Of course now people can get the vaccine at the local pharmacy.
The rollout in New York State was a bit slow, but now it's picking up. Of the 4 biggest states population wise, New York has the highest percentage of people fully vaccinated.
Texas has the lowest rate.
DFW
(54,295 posts)My wife and I had no chance to get vaccinated at home in Germany. Since we were coming to the States in April, I called my office in Dallas to ask if they could get us an appointment. We wanted to fly in on April 10. No sweat. Would April 12 be OK? Sure. Would May 10 be acceptable for the second shot? Sure! It was our preferred date! Location preference? Anything in downtown Dallas available? Sure, is right near where you are staying OK?
greymattermom
(5,751 posts)to vaccinated folks? They know by now what the cost of having covid is.
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)understand. I didnt have to pay, show an insurance card, nothing. I signed up through the Missouri navigator system the state set up, and when I was eligible I got a notice of places I could sign up to get the vaccine. I was always under the impression the federal government is paying for it and I am not on Medicare yet.
DBoon
(22,340 posts)To account for the lower risk of claims payout from Covid?
Sounds like a reasonable thing for an insurance company to do. I think some may do this for non-smokers.
nattyice
(331 posts)Let the Trump supporters get sick and die.
I really dont care. Do you?
piddyprints
(14,637 posts)We live in a red county and have no control over the idiots we live among. Still, we wanted our vaccinations.
Remember that red states, red counties, red cities also have blue dots who are just as sick and tired of the stupidity as you are.
MyMission
(1,849 posts)Blue people live in red counties.
My county in NC is 60/40 red, with a population of 117,000, with numerous retirement facilities and communities. Early in the vaccine rollout it was difficult for many to get an appointment, waiting lists were very long; but when I became eligible several weeks ago I was able to schedule my appointment for the following day.
All over the US we've had to deal with supply and demand issues, in red and blue and purple states and counties. We had no federal guidelines in place at the start, and it's actually remarkable how the vaccines have been distributed across the country. J & J being added and now on hold will cause a blip but the vaccinations continue.
If the cult 45 members don't want the vaccine, let's get them involved in a Russian roulette tournament and hasten their demise.
liberalla
(9,224 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,371 posts)tRumpVirus than it will Covid19. Do not underestimate the ignorance of a significant portion of our adult population.
lpbk2713
(42,737 posts)I don't think that would be a coincidence.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)... clearly had very poor educations in science. That's what always glaringly stood out to me.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)for all the people who need and want a vaccine.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,559 posts)The same imbalance occurs in the relative glut of idiots in bright red counties, so what else could you expect? I propose a trade. Idiots for vaccine. "Those" counties aren't going to need all the vaccine they are allotted, and clearly have no problem with having these troglodytes walking among them, so...
Seems like a good solution to me. At least a work-around.