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demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:16 PM Apr 2021

BREAKING: Alexei Navalny's press secretary Kira Yarmysh reports that his condition has seriously...

BREAKING: Alexei Navalny’s press secretary Kira Yarmysh reports that his condition has seriously deteriorated and to use her words, “he is dying”. She says he only has a couple of days after this 18 day hunger strike where he’s lost more than 50 pounds. Extremely disturbing news!


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BREAKING: Alexei Navalny's press secretary Kira Yarmysh reports that his condition has seriously... (Original Post) demmiblue Apr 2021 OP
This just sucks soothsayer Apr 2021 #1
Indeed. Delphinus Apr 2021 #2
It would appear he wants to be a martyr. LisaL Apr 2021 #7
He's doing this for all the others who are not doing it.. he believes strongly on his principles. secondwind Apr 2021 #17
This is so horrible. hlthe2b Apr 2021 #3
What would you have us do? LisaL Apr 2021 #6
well, I sure as hell won't write posts defending Putin and blaming Navalny, that's for damned sure. hlthe2b Apr 2021 #10
I am not defending Putin. LisaL Apr 2021 #12
Just because he put himself at risk for the greater cause does not justify his imprisonment & murder hlthe2b Apr 2021 #13
He is a Russian citizen, convicted by Russian court and kept in Russian prison. LisaL Apr 2021 #14
Before Trump the US asserted itself along with the world community on humane treatment of dissidents hlthe2b Apr 2021 #15
You keep insisting that I am defending Putin. I am not. LisaL Apr 2021 #16
I think you're confusing defending Putin with being honest about reality. BannonsLiver Apr 2021 #21
the poster was blaming Navalny, who I think to be incredibly brave and selfless. hlthe2b Apr 2021 #22
I don't think he was blaming him Polybius Apr 2021 #23
Reread my post. Apparently you can't conceive of someone self-sacrificing for a larger cause either hlthe2b Apr 2021 #24
Saying it's a dumb idea isn't calling him dumb Polybius Apr 2021 #25
You act as though he did not know exactly what would happen. He did. This is his sacrifice. hlthe2b Apr 2021 #26
I know he knew Polybius Apr 2021 #27
Doctors Warn That Jailed Russian Opposition Leader Navalny At Immediate Risk Of Cardiac Arrest demmiblue Apr 2021 #4
This is another reason why a working "world court" is necessary. Too bad we won't... TreasonousBastard Apr 2021 #5
I wish he just never went back. ColinC Apr 2021 #8
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2021 #9
suicide by Putin... stillcool Apr 2021 #11
When he returned to Russia, Navalny choose to Deminpenn Apr 2021 #18
President Biden needs to get involved. roamer65 Apr 2021 #19
He was a fool to go back to Russia. BannonsLiver Apr 2021 #20
I find it hard to figure out why he did. nt oasis Apr 2021 #28

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
2. Indeed.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:24 PM
Apr 2021

It seems the international community should be able to step in and help in some form. I have been concerned since he went back. I'm afraid his death will not bring about the change he would hope.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
7. It would appear he wants to be a martyr.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:54 PM
Apr 2021

Why else would he go back, when Russia flat out told everybody they will arrest him if he returns.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
17. He's doing this for all the others who are not doing it.. he believes strongly on his principles.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 04:42 PM
Apr 2021

It's very sad, this news.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
3. This is so horrible.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:29 PM
Apr 2021

and we (in the West) seem to be so incapable of successfully intervening. Damned depressing.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
6. What would you have us do?
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:53 PM
Apr 2021

Russia told him he will be arrested if he returned. He returned, and they arrested him.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
10. well, I sure as hell won't write posts defending Putin and blaming Navalny, that's for damned sure.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 02:02 PM
Apr 2021

And yes, we are paying for four years of turning our backs on our responsibilities to human rights and toward Russia--and Navalny is the ultimate victim of this.

Sorry, LisaL, but I find your post cold, callous and totally unacceptable.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
12. I am not defending Putin.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 02:06 PM
Apr 2021

But Navalny returning to Russia wasn't going to end well. Did you ever think otherwise?

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
13. Just because he put himself at risk for the greater cause does not justify his imprisonment & murder
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 02:08 PM
Apr 2021

Do you think otherwise?!

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
14. He is a Russian citizen, convicted by Russian court and kept in Russian prison.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 02:35 PM
Apr 2021

I am curious as to what you think US can do in such a circumstance? Russia let him out to Germany when he was poisoned. I don't think they will let him out again.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
15. Before Trump the US asserted itself along with the world community on humane treatment of dissidents
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 02:39 PM
Apr 2021

There are any number of ways to assert pressure--along with our allies-- if the will is there.

Your defending Putin on this is beyond shocking to me.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
16. You keep insisting that I am defending Putin. I am not.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 03:18 PM
Apr 2021

If there is anything US can actually do then of course we should do it.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
21. I think you're confusing defending Putin with being honest about reality.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 08:46 PM
Apr 2021

The reality is as the poster says. Stating that reality is not defending Putin.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
22. the poster was blaming Navalny, who I think to be incredibly brave and selfless.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:04 PM
Apr 2021

Some here apparently cannot fathom putting country before self, even one's own life to the point they blame him as though he were a mere ideological fool and Putin is just "being Putin." Ignoring our own role in failing to hold Putin accountable the past four years.

I do not understand that callous attitude.

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
23. I don't think he was blaming him
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:12 PM
Apr 2021

The poster was pointing out how it was a dumb idea for him to return to Russia. Now there's nothing anyone can do.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
24. Reread my post. Apparently you can't conceive of someone self-sacrificing for a larger cause either
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:18 PM
Apr 2021

To you, it is simply "dumb."

Have we all become so shallow?

This is a tragic situation, but to deride his sacrifice as nothing more than DUMB? Really?

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
25. Saying it's a dumb idea isn't calling him dumb
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:28 PM
Apr 2021

It's not shallow to point it out, he put himself in this situation. It was a terrible decision. Doesn't mean I don't like him.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
26. You act as though he did not know exactly what would happen. He did. This is his sacrifice.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:34 PM
Apr 2021

To you, it is "dumb," because we Americans have lost the concept of self-sacrifice to the point that for many, anything more than mild inconvenience is unthinkable. The WWII generation has died out and the younger cannot conceive of doing something so dangerous, so "dumb" for the greater good. Hell, even wearing a layer of cloth across one's face is beyond thinkable for so many of our people today.

I may not agree with his method, but I respect him and would NEVER deride his sacrifice even while I'm saddened that the combined power of Western nations has not been brought to bear to assert the repercussions to Putin that might keep Navalny alive.--

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
27. I know he knew
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:42 PM
Apr 2021

But nothing is gonna come out of this because Russia won't change. Never said I didn't respect him.

demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
4. Doctors Warn That Jailed Russian Opposition Leader Navalny At Immediate Risk Of Cardiac Arrest
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:31 PM
Apr 2021
Jailed Russian opposition leader Aleksei Navalny's health has rapidly deteriorated and he could suffer cardiac arrest "any minute," according to doctors demanding immediate access to the prominent Kremlin critic.

The plea came from Navalny's personal doctor, Anastasia Vasilyeva, and three other doctors, including a cardiologist, in a letter to Russia's Federal Prison Service officials that was posted to Vasilyeva's Twitter account on April 17.

Navalny, 44, announced a hunger strike at the end of last month in protest at what he said was the refusal of prison authorities to allow him to receive proper medical care for acute back and leg pain.

The opposition leader said on April 16 that prison authorities were threatening to put him in a straightjacket to force-feed him.

The doctors' statement said that blood tests showed that Navalny's potassium count had reached a "critical level."

"This means both impaired renal function and that serious heart rhythm problems can happen any minute," the letter said.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-navalny-health-cardiac-arrest/31209000.html

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. This is another reason why a working "world court" is necessary. Too bad we won't...
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:34 PM
Apr 2021

see one in our lifetimes.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
18. When he returned to Russia, Navalny choose to
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 05:02 PM
Apr 2021

be a martyr. Surely he knew he would not survive long there.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
19. President Biden needs to get involved.
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 06:30 PM
Apr 2021

You have Navalny on a plane to the United States in 24 hours or you start losing BILLIONS of dollars in permanently confiscated assets every hour after that 24 hours.

If Navalny dies, we need to close all Russian embassies and consulates. Send all diplomats packing and start the arrest of any Russians here in the states with ties to Putin. Pack them on planes and send them back.

I am an old anti-Russian just like former Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson of WA.

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