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soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Delphinus
(11,830 posts)It seems the international community should be able to step in and help in some form. I have been concerned since he went back. I'm afraid his death will not bring about the change he would hope.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Why else would he go back, when Russia flat out told everybody they will arrest him if he returns.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)It's very sad, this news.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)and we (in the West) seem to be so incapable of successfully intervening. Damned depressing.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Russia told him he will be arrested if he returned. He returned, and they arrested him.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)And yes, we are paying for four years of turning our backs on our responsibilities to human rights and toward Russia--and Navalny is the ultimate victim of this.
Sorry, LisaL, but I find your post cold, callous and totally unacceptable.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)But Navalny returning to Russia wasn't going to end well. Did you ever think otherwise?
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)Do you think otherwise?!
LisaL
(44,973 posts)I am curious as to what you think US can do in such a circumstance? Russia let him out to Germany when he was poisoned. I don't think they will let him out again.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)There are any number of ways to assert pressure--along with our allies-- if the will is there.
Your defending Putin on this is beyond shocking to me.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)If there is anything US can actually do then of course we should do it.
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)The reality is as the poster says. Stating that reality is not defending Putin.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)Some here apparently cannot fathom putting country before self, even one's own life to the point they blame him as though he were a mere ideological fool and Putin is just "being Putin." Ignoring our own role in failing to hold Putin accountable the past four years.
I do not understand that callous attitude.
Polybius
(15,398 posts)The poster was pointing out how it was a dumb idea for him to return to Russia. Now there's nothing anyone can do.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)To you, it is simply "dumb."
Have we all become so shallow?
This is a tragic situation, but to deride his sacrifice as nothing more than DUMB? Really?
Polybius
(15,398 posts)It's not shallow to point it out, he put himself in this situation. It was a terrible decision. Doesn't mean I don't like him.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)To you, it is "dumb," because we Americans have lost the concept of self-sacrifice to the point that for many, anything more than mild inconvenience is unthinkable. The WWII generation has died out and the younger cannot conceive of doing something so dangerous, so "dumb" for the greater good. Hell, even wearing a layer of cloth across one's face is beyond thinkable for so many of our people today.
I may not agree with his method, but I respect him and would NEVER deride his sacrifice even while I'm saddened that the combined power of Western nations has not been brought to bear to assert the repercussions to Putin that might keep Navalny alive.--
Polybius
(15,398 posts)But nothing is gonna come out of this because Russia won't change. Never said I didn't respect him.
demmiblue
(36,845 posts)The plea came from Navalny's personal doctor, Anastasia Vasilyeva, and three other doctors, including a cardiologist, in a letter to Russia's Federal Prison Service officials that was posted to Vasilyeva's Twitter account on April 17.
Navalny, 44, announced a hunger strike at the end of last month in protest at what he said was the refusal of prison authorities to allow him to receive proper medical care for acute back and leg pain.
The opposition leader said on April 16 that prison authorities were threatening to put him in a straightjacket to force-feed him.
The doctors' statement said that blood tests showed that Navalny's potassium count had reached a "critical level."
"This means both impaired renal function and that serious heart rhythm problems can happen any minute," the letter said.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-navalny-health-cardiac-arrest/31209000.html
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)see one in our lifetimes.
ColinC
(8,291 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)sad when someone has nothing to live for, and everything to die for.
Deminpenn
(15,286 posts)be a martyr. Surely he knew he would not survive long there.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)You have Navalny on a plane to the United States in 24 hours or you start losing BILLIONS of dollars in permanently confiscated assets every hour after that 24 hours.
If Navalny dies, we need to close all Russian embassies and consulates. Send all diplomats packing and start the arrest of any Russians here in the states with ties to Putin. Pack them on planes and send them back.
I am an old anti-Russian just like former Senator Henry Scoop Jackson of WA.