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Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:19 PM

Fascists operate by Testing the Fences. No, MTG is not done with her "America First"

#KuKluxKlan caucus.

This was a test to see what she could get away with easily. If you have read "On Tyranny" by Timothy Snyder you know he says that most of a tyrant's power is given to him or her without even asking for it.

This was a limits-testing exercise and she is not done. At all.

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Reply Fascists operate by Testing the Fences. No, MTG is not done with her "America First" (Original post)
TomDaisy Apr 2021 OP
msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #1
TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #2
TomDaisy Apr 2021 #3
PortTack Apr 2021 #4
vercetti2021 Apr 2021 #6
PortTack Apr 2021 #9
wnylib Apr 2021 #13
vercetti2021 Apr 2021 #14
PortTack Apr 2021 #19
I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2021 #8
RainCaster Apr 2021 #5
Baked Potato Apr 2021 #7
TomDaisy Apr 2021 #16
Mr.Bill Apr 2021 #10
thenelm1 Apr 2021 #12
Hortensis Apr 2021 #26
Mr.Bill Apr 2021 #28
thenelm1 Apr 2021 #29
IronLionZion Apr 2021 #11
IcyPeas Apr 2021 #15
ancianita Apr 2021 #17
PortTack Apr 2021 #20
rickyhall Apr 2021 #18
greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #21
Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #22
ancianita Apr 2021 #24
Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #25
Meowmee Apr 2021 #23
Elessar Zappa Apr 2021 #27
Initech Apr 2021 #30

Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:22 PM

1. Completely Agree n/t

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:24 PM

2. Desensitize people and in 2 years there will be less of an uproar, esp. if the fascists seize power.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:25 PM

3. normalizing and wearing people down

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Response to TomDaisy (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:52 PM

4. I for one have faced some really tough trials in my life...I will NEVER wear down NEVER

They will carry me out feet first b4 I give in or give up.

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Response to PortTack (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:03 PM

6. Go out dying would be me

Live free or die. Never would surrender to anyone.

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:36 PM

9. Would be willing to wager there are a lot of us that feel that way!

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Response to PortTack (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 11:30 PM

13. Yes there are. Count me in.

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Response to PortTack (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 11:31 PM

14. Well said

At least this liberal would go out guns blazing. I'm one of the responsible owners that took classes and has been shooting since they were a kid.

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:40 AM

19. My partner's reply to trumpers on more than one occasion has been just because I'm liberal and

Drive a Prius doesnít mean I donít own a gun and know how to use it..

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:35 PM

8. This desensitizing

Has been going on for decades.

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:02 PM

5. Fascists will touch the stove repeatedly

Intelligence is not big on their list.

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:26 PM

7. Yep, they are rolling out different "products" to gauge popularity.

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Response to Baked Potato (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 11:43 PM

16. exactly. they are relentless. they don't get discouraged.

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 11:02 PM

10. Sorry, I am of the opinion

that she is is just a plain moron. Anything else is way over-thinking it.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 11:19 PM

12. The problem being that they're are a lot of other eff'in...

morons that lap her krap up. Look at her recent fund raising numbers. I have no solution, but it's like a disease - as or more deadly than COVID. Too many people are too happy to be dumbasses. Idiocracy come to life.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:24 AM

26. Part of being a moron is assuming fascistic colleagues would follow

the leadership of a woman. Authoritarian movements are always strongly male dominated, and a big part of their energy comes from the male members' need subjugate women, accepted by the female members. And fascism, where it applies, is an extreme form of RW authoritarianism.

My guess is that if this noise of the moment got any encouragement at all from better entrenched colleagues, it was merely from some interested in the possibility of hooking onto her gravy train.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #26)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:25 PM

28. I totally agree.

Except for that small subset of ammosexuals that get an erection when they see a woman with a gun. And they would still seek to ultimately dominate her, not follow her.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 10:12 PM

29. So true - I hadn't even considered that aspect.

That whole women should be subservient thing is such a foreign concept to me, it was never even a thought that entered my mind.

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 11:16 PM

11. Trump was pushing the limits his whole presidency

it was quite brazen

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 11:42 PM

15. So, this will be the third headline now with this story. She learned well from trump

All publicity is good publicity.

She did, she didn't, she did again.

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 11:50 PM

17. They're in public rotation, and we don't need to get too reactive. Just monitor and use

tools that shut them down.

It's more about what they do than what they say. We need to pay attention to that because when they're busy, that's posing; it's those around them, what their "aides" do, that indicates what the electeds are really doing. In MTG's case, nothing. Her goal is to appear powerful without doing anything for anyone, just make them believe she is. That spokesperson? That guy runs messaging.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:51 AM

20. Oh very well said!! Thank you

Some of it, I believe is her extreme jealousy of AOC- smart, well spoken, has a true following, classy, educated, accomplished, groomed...which she is none of. I think this is margarineís answer to the squad, which is laughable..and pitiful

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:05 AM

18. Like caged animals.

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:06 AM

21. A haunted house, with a picket fence

To float around and ghost my friends.

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:42 AM

22. The stuff about "Anglo-Saxon political traditions"...

... made little sense to me, in a democracy, but perhaps that was part of it? Not even the Magna Carta came about until long after the Norman conquest of England!

So the accusations of racist dog-whistles is probably correct, although I'll admit that I NEVER knew it was ever used by racists in this country!

Years ago, when I was home-brewing lots of English ales (with my ancestry almost entirely from England), I bought this shirt:



If someone had accused me of being racist for wearing it, I would've truly been confused by it. It's not like I want to waste much of my life focusing on the KKK and other white supremacists!

Or maybe modern-day Republicans really would like a return to the feudalism of old England when the Anglo-Saxons were in power? That's how many businesses basically operate, and right-wingers seem to want them to have complete power without any democratically-elected government ever meddling in their mini-tyrannies!

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #22)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:09 AM

24. Until

the dogwhistles stop with the Anglo Saxon stuff, and as long as they try to use it as cover for their white supremacy, it's got to get damped down. Maybe it's temporary. I hope so. Your symbol isn't confusing, either.

But hey, might as well do a symbol review... and this group isn't all of them, by any stretch...

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Response to ancianita (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:19 AM

25. I hope that the white supremacists stop associating...

... themselves with various stuff, like the "ok" finger symbol.

I'd hate to wave at someone and then have someone charge at me, saying that I was doing the "supremacist wave" or whatever.

I'm exaggerating about that, of course, but sheesh... I certainly never knew about "Anglo-Saxon" being associated with them!

Aryan? Well, of course.

And the symbol on that shirt is the old English flag, still worn by the England football (soccer) team as far as I know.

Edit: I'm convinced that MTG was aware of any such association, though. I'm just saying that I never knew about it until this story came out.

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:49 AM

23. This

Agree completely, exactly what happened with dumpster.

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:26 AM

27. She's just like Trump.

Everything she does is for attention, thereís no planning going on.

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Response to TomDaisy (Original post)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 10:18 PM

30. I truly despise these people.

Yes, I hate them. Yes, I am seething at rage at their very existence. You can quote me on this! Fuck white supremacists, fuck white nationalists, fuck gun nuts, fuck MAGA supporters, fuck Q Anon, and fuck the NRA. And if you support any of these groups, fuck you too.

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