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samplegirl

(11,476 posts)
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 11:47 PM Apr 2021

In a poll out today 43% of Republicans

say they will not get a vaccine shot if they can avoid it.
It’s infuriating to be aware of Republican leaders who have secretly gotten the vaccine but lie to their constituents or downplay it, so they don't lose their base.

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In a poll out today 43% of Republicans (Original Post) samplegirl Apr 2021 OP
Freeloaders! nt Mopar151 Apr 2021 #1
They should be barred from entering any public space Orrex Apr 2021 #2
Then die vercetti2021 Apr 2021 #3
When everyone else is vaccinated, wnylib Apr 2021 #18
It's really kind of a quandary. How do you poll liars without the Cretans' paradox taking over. gulliver Apr 2021 #4
There's an easy way around this. "IF they can avoid it" All companies should be pressured to RockRaven Apr 2021 #5
The ones I worry about are working in public service jobs like restaurants. nt doc03 Apr 2021 #7
Yep Deminpenn Apr 2021 #26
Fortunately, these days people who identify as Republicans Ocelot II Apr 2021 #6
Two family members who have been full-on anti-Fauci, anti-vax teach1st Apr 2021 #8
Well, if they have already gotten Sucha NastyWoman Apr 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Sucha NastyWoman Apr 2021 #16
Republicans are pro-covid. There's really no other way to describe their views. unblock Apr 2021 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2021 #10
"God works in mysterious ways." Gaugamela Apr 2021 #11
God thinning that herd a bit? empedocles Apr 2021 #27
I live in western New York... SergeStorms Apr 2021 #12
Just like bright red areas of MI. roamer65 Apr 2021 #13
I live in Western New York too. Our Covid numbers are horrifying! liberal_mama Apr 2021 #15
What part of western NY? wnylib Apr 2021 #20
I am in a suburban town outside of Buffalo (Cheektowaga) liberal_mama Apr 2021 #37
I'm in Ohio samplegirl Apr 2021 #17
NYC and region are higher, due to population size, wnylib Apr 2021 #19
Percentage of population-wise.... SergeStorms Apr 2021 #30
Sometimes the employees themselves wnylib Apr 2021 #31
Sickening (literally)... SergeStorms Apr 2021 #32
In one store, the register clerk insisted wnylib Apr 2021 #33
She must be... SergeStorms Apr 2021 #35
That incident happened a month ago. wnylib Apr 2021 #38
You're bad, wnylib! SergeStorms Apr 2021 #39
Thanks for the compliment. wnylib Apr 2021 #40
My family lives in upstate New York Johonny Apr 2021 #34
One State run vaccination center... SergeStorms Apr 2021 #36
Too bad they have made it seem "unAmerican" to get one. BigmanPigman Apr 2021 #21
There is never a poll taken of Repubs feel speaknow Apr 2021 #22
Counter Point: 80.7% of Americans Over 65 Have Been Vaccinated Stallion Apr 2021 #23
they bitch the loudest about shutdowns mnmoderatedem Apr 2021 #24
43% of 25% is 10.75% of the population. We can still get to herd immunity, and let Darwin Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #25
Sounds like my right wing sister and her husband hauckeye Apr 2021 #28
Darwinianism strikes again.NT anamnua Apr 2021 #29
My daughter was proud she got all the girls Tree Lady Apr 2021 #41

wnylib

(21,445 posts)
18. When everyone else is vaccinated,
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:23 AM
Apr 2021

they will be the ones getting sick. No sympathy for them, only for the health care workers who have to deal with them.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
4. It's really kind of a quandary. How do you poll liars without the Cretans' paradox taking over.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:06 AM
Apr 2021

You're polling a group of people for whom lying is fine. What's the scientific basis for evaluating their responses?

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
5. There's an easy way around this. "IF they can avoid it" All companies should be pressured to
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:07 AM
Apr 2021

mandate that their employees be vaccinated unless a physician says they should not be. Threaten their income and most will fold. That won't get us to 100% but it will get us high enough.

Also, most of these assholes are probably virtue signaling (in the mind of a deranged Repuke anyhow) in their answer. Their actual behavior may be quite different.

Deminpenn

(15,286 posts)
26. Yep
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:44 AM
Apr 2021

and I believe most businesses will eventually mandate employees be vaccinated. Then there's travel. It won't surprise me if airlines, cruise ships, trains require passengers to be vaccinated in order to use their services.

Ocelot II

(115,683 posts)
6. Fortunately, these days people who identify as Republicans
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:16 AM
Apr 2021

are down to about only 25% of total voters. Still, 43% of 25% is too many morons.

teach1st

(5,935 posts)
8. Two family members who have been full-on anti-Fauci, anti-vax
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:21 AM
Apr 2021

surprised me by getting the vaccine last week. They are stone-cold Republicans and I'll bet, when asked by a poll, they would have said they weren't going to get the vaccine.

Response to teach1st (Reply #8)

unblock

(52,207 posts)
9. Republicans are pro-covid. There's really no other way to describe their views.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:29 AM
Apr 2021

At virtually every step, they've sided with the virus at the expense of humans.

They object to people even voluntarily wearing masks, I mean how can you explain that if they've not trying to help the disease along.

Response to samplegirl (Original post)

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
12. I live in western New York...
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:12 AM
Apr 2021

and we're the hottest COVID spot in the entire state right now. The reason? Western New York, with a few exceptions, is the "red" part of the state. So many right-wing nuts here refuse to be vaccinated we'll never stamp out the virus here. It's truly sickening. They see it as a political stand and, of course, an attack on their masculinity. What a bunch of obstinate morons.

wnylib

(21,445 posts)
20. What part of western NY?
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:38 AM
Apr 2021

I am near Buffalo. Rates in my community (small city in rural area outside of Buffalo) are climbing like they did around the winter holidays. I think it's a combination of anti maskers and the more contagious UK strain which is all over NY now.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
37. I am in a suburban town outside of Buffalo (Cheektowaga)
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:35 PM
Apr 2021

Lots of people not being careful, I suppose. I can't believe rates are this high again.

samplegirl

(11,476 posts)
17. I'm in Ohio
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:19 AM
Apr 2021

and some hot spots here as well. What’s bad is how many people I see not wearing a mask at all now and walking right into the stores.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
30. Percentage of population-wise....
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:18 PM
Apr 2021

western NY has the top percentage, and Gov. Cuomo was quite concerned about it last week. I'm just so sick of these assholes not wearing a mask, wearing it so it doesn't cover their nose, and just making a public health hazard out of themselves. Employees in the stores don't say a word to them. This pandemic will never end with these selfish turds running around.

wnylib

(21,445 posts)
31. Sometimes the employees themselves
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:10 PM
Apr 2021

are the problem. I have asked a few employees to cover their noses while I'm at their register. I have stopped going to the 7/11 near me because ALL of the employees except one leave their noses hanging out of their useless masks. Their customers buy slices of pizza and drinks in a cup and browse through the store eating and drinking with their masks around their necks. The whole store is a covid petri dish.

Whenever I go out, I am double-masked and wear gloves. I have a sanitation ritual that I go through when I get home. I still need eye protection beyond my glasses. I have some goggles, but have not worn them in public. I would rather have less conspicuos safety glasses with side and top shields.

I've had both Moderna shots. My two weeks post shots will be up this Friday. But vaccinations are not 100% effective and I don't feel safe with cases rising all around this area.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
32. Sickening (literally)...
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:54 PM
Apr 2021

isn't it? I've seen the same thing myself. We're never going to get rid of this virus with idiots like this acting like it's business as usual. The human race is doomed, and stupidity will be the cause.

wnylib

(21,445 posts)
33. In one store, the register clerk insisted
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 04:16 PM
Apr 2021

that covid is no worse than the flu. I asked what made her so sure of that. She said her doctor told her. I said I doubted that. She switched to saying that she knew because she had it twice. I asked if she was tested both times and she said yes. Then she said she was a nurse. I asked why she was working in a retail store. She said it was part time after retiring. She appeared to be around 35, but might have been older.

I said she had changed her story too many times to be credible. She just gave me a smug grin.

I thought of a better answer later, of course. When she said it was like the flu, I wish I had said, "Yeah, the 1918 Spanish flu."

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
35. She must be...
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 06:58 PM
Apr 2021

rehearsing for a job at Mar-ma-lardo, waiting on her lord and savior, Tangerine Idi Amin. Trump supporters really are the cream of the crap, aren't they?

wnylib

(21,445 posts)
38. That incident happened a month ago.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:45 PM
Apr 2021

I was in the same store this week. She did not seem to recognize me, but had pulled her mask up for the customer ahead of me. When she finished with my purchases, she said, "Have a nice day." i said, "You too, Nurse Ratchet."

Johonny

(20,841 posts)
34. My family lives in upstate New York
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 04:22 PM
Apr 2021

They said the positive in that was they were vaccinated in February-March. No lines. No fuss.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
36. One State run vaccination center...
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:09 PM
Apr 2021

is at SUNY Potsdam. Every other State run center is booked solid, but SUNY Potsdam always has openings. I originally made an appointment there when I couldn't find one closer to me. It would have meant a 300 mile drive, each way, and that was a month in the future. Luckily I found something else before that appointment came due, so I canceled it. The population is rather sparse in "The North Country", and they're mostly republigoons anyway.
Good for your Mum and Dad though!

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
21. Too bad they have made it seem "unAmerican" to get one.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:50 AM
Apr 2021

I wish the store and restaurant owners, hospital workers, public transportation, etc. would refuse to admit them without proof of a vaccination.

When prisoners were released from German concentration camps they got special identification saying they were sprayed with DDT for their health and everybody else's health. It wasn't a political statement.

speaknow

(321 posts)
22. There is never a poll taken of Repubs feel
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 03:04 AM
Apr 2021

about Race and racism. That POS that was in the WH
and his Family never mingle with lets say everyday
Repubs neither would most of the Repub Congress.
And the ones in Congress never vote for things that
would really help people so why do they vote for
them, what do they have in common simple answer
is Hate, yep they Hate the same things, and one for
sure is race.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
25. 43% of 25% is 10.75% of the population. We can still get to herd immunity, and let Darwin
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:54 AM
Apr 2021

take care of those idiots.

hauckeye

(634 posts)
28. Sounds like my right wing sister and her husband
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:20 AM
Apr 2021

They cancelled a cruise around Hawaii this fall because the cruise line required a vaccine (rolls eyes)

Tree Lady

(11,457 posts)
41. My daughter was proud she got all the girls
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:47 AM
Apr 2021

Who work for her in office to get vaccinated but one, told me today the one hold out got it because of traveling to Hawaii they are requiring vaccine cards not to have to quarantine on the island.

So that is working and I wish more places would require it.

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