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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 04:52 PM Apr 2021

Latest E. Jean Carroll filing


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E. Jean Carroll
@ejeancarroll
Flames are shooting off this thing!

If Trump Goes on Using the DOJ as His Personal Law Firm, WE'RE ALL SUNK!

One of the great court documents of all time. Written by @kaplanrobbie, @JoshuaMatz8 @LeahLitman @rachtuch Marci Coburn and Matthew Craig.

https://adobe.ly/32sAEkV
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Latest E. Jean Carroll filing (Original Post) soothsayer Apr 2021 OP
I cannot believe any court would allow this bluestarone Apr 2021 #1
I don't understand the reference brooklynite Apr 2021 #2
She's the one after trump's dna soothsayer Apr 2021 #3
"get DOJ to stop acting as his personal attorney" brooklynite Apr 2021 #5
The Department of Justice is trying to intervene as defendant gratuitous Apr 2021 #7
And, since the defendant would then be the United States rsdsharp Apr 2021 #11
What's the tldr of that filing? nt intrepidity Apr 2021 #4
I don't see the date on this doc, soothsayer... i do have vision issues, I could be overlooking msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #6
If you visit the link, the date is there blogslug Apr 2021 #8
went to link, thanks for posting, msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #9
Yeah soothsayer Apr 2021 #10

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
1. I cannot believe any court would allow this
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 04:56 PM
Apr 2021

QRUMP needs to pay his OWN att. fees plus hers as far as i'm concerned!

brooklynite

(94,527 posts)
5. "get DOJ to stop acting as his personal attorney"
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:28 PM
Apr 2021

That's the part I don't understand the reference to,

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. The Department of Justice is trying to intervene as defendant
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:43 PM
Apr 2021

The district court ruled that the Department of Justice couldn't substitute as defendant in place of Donald Trump, and this is the court of appeals case. In essence, the Department is arguing that Donald Trump was acting in his official capacity as President of the United States when he made his false and defamatory statements about Plaintiff Carroll, and as such the proper defendant is not Donald Trump personally but the United States of America.

I suppose, in the most pedantic fashion, of the intervention is allowed, the defendant becomes the United States of America and is no longer Donald Trump, so the Department of Justice would act as the attorney for the United States. But I think most people would agree that in essence the Department would be serving as Donald Trump's personal attorneys in the lawsuit. I don't know how likely it is that the court of appeals will agree that Donald Trump's official duties as president include defaming private citizens, but I don't think most citizens would regard the president as First Defamer.

rsdsharp

(9,170 posts)
11. And, since the defendant would then be the United States
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:18 PM
Apr 2021

rather than Trump, they would move for summary judgment on the grounds that the United States cannot defame anyone.

And they would win. Which is why the DOJ under Barr moved to intervene in the first place. I don’t know why the Garland DOJ hasn’t sought to withdraw the motion.

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
6. I don't see the date on this doc, soothsayer... i do have vision issues, I could be overlooking
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:32 PM
Apr 2021

but this one seems to be referencing the previous DOJ. and so, um,, not relevant unless the DOJ is still working for Trump?

Is that what we should infer?

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
9. went to link, thanks for posting,
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:59 PM
Apr 2021

seems like shes saying the current admin is interfering on behalf of trump. am i understanding this correctly?

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