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True Dough
(17,304 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)bluestarone
(16,926 posts)PROTECT your workers!! File charges on these asshole cops!
Demovictory9
(32,454 posts)Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)what fucking type of coffee they like to drink and everything else they can that is within the legal limits.
They can make life uncomfortable for these jackass officers and they should.
jaxexpat
(6,820 posts)They're too smugly misinformed to understand how ignorant and out of line they are. Abusing their legal authority in such fashion they lay themselves open to justice from their constituents. It would be totally appropriate for a crowd of citizens to shadow these types 24/7 until they are brought to justice. LEO's should stand fearless before the criminals in our society but they should tremble in dread of retribution for their personal criminal actions against the public. The sadistic bully streak which runs through an inordinate percentage of our cop class is the first thing that screeners should have flagged prior to arming and badging from the general population of applicants. But they didn't because it's difficult for the weak to recognize weakness in others or the corrupt to censure the corruption of others.
That these criminal actors are shielded by their fellows is the actual, fundamental logical reason to disband the current police community en masse. The fact that they act with impunity, having no apparent recognition of any consequences for their behavior and see no need of self-policing is not only justification but a bright neon sign screaming "enough is enough", it's past time for mass termination. I actually expect to see a rise in crime afterwards because their unemployment will result in a historical release of criminals onto the streets.
I have done a little quick researching to get an idea what the German people did with their Nazi fellows after 1945. Turns out it wasn't in their hands so much but up to the allied victors. Looks like the US lost it's taste for justice within a year as economic realities drew attention away from criminality. Who would have ever guessed? But ultimately the element disappeared into the population, in the west more so than the east though. The Russians were really pissed. But wait, it's just not fair or accurate to compare Nazi enforcers to the American blue line........except it is.
The pending resolution of the case in Minneapolis will tell us if we have permission to believe our own eyes. It should tell us that any directive to intentionally "turn off the body cams" is a prosecutable admission of criminal wrong-doing but it may not. The pulsing jugular of the ruling classes is exposed these days.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)wnylib
(21,447 posts)that DOJ will investigate the police department.
Also, suits should be filed for denial of constitutional rights and defying a court order to leave journalists alone
ShazzieB
(16,389 posts)wnylib
(21,447 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)SergeStorms
(19,200 posts)"That other guy" emboldened racists, white supremacists, and fascists. Unfortunately for the people of this country, many of those racists, white supremacists, and fascists list "police officer" as their occupation.
Pas-de-Calais
(9,904 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,418 posts)Hopefully our DOJ thinks otherwise.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)not necessarily in that order.
Dan
(3,554 posts)Included in the lawsuit, make them personally liable. Then, when the Union for law enforcement sticks their nose into it, include them in the lawsuit.
Threaten their money..... and with that reality, common sense will be introduced.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)Response to Dan (Reply #18)
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WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)getting more people harassed and hurt.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)I assume you are talking about the police. Who do you think is going to abolish the police?
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)quakerboy
(13,920 posts)Seems most of the ones that get fired are back on the job shortly after due to contract negotiations. Lawsuits cost the various governments many millions every year and have accomplished little, as they dont actually cost the PD's anything, just the tax payers.
Now.. Cut funding of a few pd's by half or so, and replace them with a variety of other services, well funded, and you might see some revisiting of the training by the brass. And if you start making individual officers responsible for any consequences of their actions, that also might bring about some soul searching.
And when half of them quit, or we drop their funding precipitously.. then our cities will have a windfall of funds to put into other, more effective services.
soldierant
(6,857 posts)where Paul Wellstone is buroed because he is spinning in his grave ... or whether there is also a flood because he is weeping.
So much for "Minnesota nice."
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)crickets
(25,969 posts)Link to tweet
Replying to @Ali_Gharib and @mehdirhasan
Qualified immunity is the structural reform that fixes 80% of this shit. Disgusting behavior outside of police regulations should not be insulated from personal responsibility. The effect of one abusive policeman losing everything to a high-profile lawsuit will work wonders.
4:46 PM · Apr 18, 2021
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Sure, but then also require cops to get liability/malpractice insurance. Insurance carriers will clear this shit right up because they'll refuse to insure violent cops, and will also likely require training if said training makes them less likely to get sued
They're both right. That would put a stop to a lot of this violent nonsense, and quickly. The problem is getting it done. Police 'unions' are one of the main obstacles. Their power to hamstring efforts in curbing police abuse is far outside what it should be, and something needs to be done about it.
True Dough
(17,304 posts)and the government must prevail by reining in the police unions.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)Like teachers.
crickets
(25,969 posts)and labor unions are not really the same thing, and have not been from day one.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)crickets
(25,969 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)crickets
(25,969 posts)Reading articles doesn't always reflect the reality as well as hearing it from someone involved.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)Not so much the cops, but related: The National Guard wanted to stage out of the Labor Center -- which is controlled by the St. Paul Labor Federation. A board member gave them permission, without discussion with the e-board. Rank-and-file activists got wind of it and kicked the Guard out. Leaders are issuing statements right and left. Some are super pissed and roundly condemned the move to kick the Guard out. Others were more diplomatic. It's a private discussion that got forced into the public. Myself, I'm embarrassed any union member would be fine with having the Guard hang out in a building we owned.
crickets
(25,969 posts)Even if it weren't the NG, should a single board member be able to lend out the facility? I am also surprised that anyone on the board of a labor federation would forget that rank and file union members might be a wee bit upset that law enforcement of any kind be allowed to use the Labor Center. Wow. Thanks for the insider view.
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)orleans
(34,051 posts)druidity33
(6,446 posts)can't contravene or even circumvent State or Federal Law. Contract clauses have to get renegotiated all the time based on changes in the law/legislature.
kimbutgar
(21,137 posts)Someone needs to investigate these police unions and see who is giving home their marching orders. I seem to remember some orange maniac giving speeches to these police unions telling them to rough up citizens.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)Over the 30 years I've been paying attention to it, to the limit I've seen it, the central source of resistance for any police reform has been the police unions.
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)and even shot several with tear gas and rubber bullets, assaulted some and arrested many.
Even the standing rock protests saw cops roughing up the press and legal observers. They don't care who is recording it on video.
Irish_Dem
(47,026 posts)Quite an ironic one, because most Asian Americans raised in the US speak better English than the racists who hurl the insult.
True Dough
(17,304 posts)I'd put my money on a CNN producer's grasp of the lexicon over that of a cop.
Irish_Dem
(47,026 posts)And makes the Asian Americans angry.
They are insulted this way by people who cannot correctly string two words together.
IcyPeas
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dalton99a
(81,478 posts)bluestarone
(16,926 posts)A hate crime. The way the state patrol yelled at her!
Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Because the system is set up against them, too. We all know what happens to cops who stand up against other cops.
Restructuring, liability, and civilian oversight are probably the only ways we're gonna fix this.
marmar
(77,080 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,333 posts)have divested ourselves of white supremacy.
bdamomma
(63,846 posts)treatment, she complied but was still thrown to the ground for what??? because she was targeted as Asian American woman???? WTF?
this arrogance has got to end.
I hope she gets some sort of justice.
DFW
(54,370 posts)This is fast becoming a constitutional issue involving freedom of the press, not to mention assault and battery being perpetrated on members of the press by thugs operating under the protection of some very undeserved badges. Find out who these thugs are. Expose them. Fire them. Indict them. Jail them, and make such an example of them that like-minded Republican assholes choose to go into professional wrestling or rodeo bull-riding instead of "enforcing" laws about which they obviously know nothing.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)llashram
(6,265 posts)is a land where trump/miller/GQP/RW media have agitated to be racially/culturally divided and violently-chaotically out of control. Especially in this area of racist men and women having the power of life and death over their fellow human beings. Especially if unarmed, usually innocent and lethally used against POC.
The human being is so easily manipulated by so-called 'leaders' of ill faith like RW GQP members. And those like trump, green, and the rest of the sociopathic ego driven monsters who seek power and control over their fellow citizens.
70ish and definitely glad the future is limited for me.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)she gets what she gets. Amirite?
JFC A major retraining in police procedures, or a rewrite of those procedures isn't totally necessary. A quick scan of the Bill of Rights ought to be enough guidance, don't you think?