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Nevilledog

(51,063 posts)
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:17 PM Apr 2021

One eBay user sold more than 100 blank CDC vaccination cards.



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Glenn Kessler
@GlennKesslerWP
One eBay user sold more than 100 blank CDC vaccination cards. The Post found the eBay account belongs to a Chicago-area pharmacist. by @ddiamond.

'Ripe for fraud’: Coronavirus vaccination cards support burgeoning scams
Officials warn that the falsified cards could endanger lives and undermine efforts to end the pandemic.
washingtonpost.com
1:45 PM · Apr 18, 2021


https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/04/18/scams-coronavirus-vaccination-cards/

One listing offered eBay customers an “Authentic CDC Vaccination Record Card” for $10.99. Another promised the same but for $9.49. A third was more oblique, offering a “Clear Pouch For CDC Vaccination Record Card” for $8.99, but customers instead received a blank vaccination card (and no pouch).

All three listings were posted by the same eBay user, who goes by “asianjackson” — using an account registered to a man who works as a pharmacist in the Chicago area — and all were illegal, federal regulators say. The account sold more than 100 blank vaccination cards in the past two weeks, according to The Washington Post’s review of purchases linked to it.

The listings are a “perfect example” of burgeoning scams involving coronavirus vaccination cards that could undermine people’s safety, as well as the success of the nation’s largest mass vaccination effort, said North Carolina Attorney General Josh Stein. Individuals might use them to misrepresent their vaccination status at school, work or in various living and travel situations, potentially exposing others to risk.

Stein, who led a recent effort with 47 colleagues demanding that eBay and other e-commerce platforms crack down on the scams, pointed to the FBI’s warning that anyone who makes or buys a fake vaccine card is breaking the law, and said he would consider prosecution, too.

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One eBay user sold more than 100 blank CDC vaccination cards. (Original Post) Nevilledog Apr 2021 OP
Lock him up & strip him of license! SheltieLover Apr 2021 #1
Blank CDC card forms are all over the web womanofthehills Apr 2021 #16
But the Statute Specifically Says Selling Vaccination Card with CDC Logo is Illegal Stallion Apr 2021 #19
But the consequences grow immensely when you are a (soon to be not) licensed professional Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #38
Well, those yellow stickers won't work in NJ, where they are white. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #36
Maybe we need bar-coded cards? marmar Apr 2021 #2
eBay is just a cesspool of bootleg, gray-market and expired goods. Very little monitoring. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #35
I Don't Get It Stallion Apr 2021 #3
I doubt these people think they they will be caught. LisaL Apr 2021 #5
you have to understand Skittles Apr 2021 #7
Word. salin Apr 2021 #14
+1000 n/t OhioChick Apr 2021 #17
That's why I think they should have kept a governmental record. I don't care Maraya1969 Apr 2021 #4
Notary record: It would be safer if a Notary person stamped the card upon leaving MagickMuffin Apr 2021 #6
EBay Should Shut Down His Sales And Ban Him From EBay And The State Should.... global1 Apr 2021 #8
Too late - anyone can print out a card womanofthehills Apr 2021 #18
You Can Print it-but its illegal to Sell, Buy, Transfer or Use the Card Stallion Apr 2021 #21
Anyone can print a card. At least in Oregon, the state is tracking MerryBlooms Apr 2021 #44
The sticker of the lot number of the vaccine is on my card oregonjen Apr 2021 #50
Correct - ebay needs to shut this down Alice Kramden Apr 2021 #30
eBay would rather throttle existing sellers than look for fraud bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #9
We live in the era of the bar code Javaman Apr 2021 #10
My card doesn't have that neon sticker (give away). Plus in Indiana - after the second shot salin Apr 2021 #11
I didn't get any notification from state to document that I received the vaccine. LisaL Apr 2021 #12
It's hard to fathom that Indiana (ranking 43 in rate of vaccinations) might be ahead of the curve salin Apr 2021 #13
Can you be arrested for having a card, but not Captain Zero Apr 2021 #15
Under what law do you think someone could be arrested Mariana Apr 2021 #34
I can't Rebl2 Apr 2021 #20
ebay sellers catsudon Apr 2021 #46
That's stupid. The virus doesn't care if you have a card or not. hunter Apr 2021 #22
I got the J&J shot nearly a month ago. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #23
the fed's are going to have fun now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #24
So, some people would rather pay for a fake card crickets Apr 2021 #25
I knew that was coming. SergeStorms Apr 2021 #26
People who use fake vaccination cards are only hurting themselves FakeNoose Apr 2021 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2021 #29
Yes true, but a mutation can happen at any time ... with anyone FakeNoose Apr 2021 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2021 #43
This shit pisses me off!! bem6207 Apr 2021 #28
politic's - beyond belief people can be this brain dead . second thought -former guy !! monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #40
whats the point the weissmam Apr 2021 #31
look at the people your talking about ! monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #41
Exactly.. bem6207 Apr 2021 #48
This should be punished with prison time. Schmice3 Apr 2021 #32
Here's a PDF to print your own....... USALiberal Apr 2021 #37
This is what happens customerserviceguy Apr 2021 #39
is there a nationwide data base of people vaccinated ? anybody know? monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #42
Despicable canetoad Apr 2021 #45
They're paying money for a card spinbaby Apr 2021 #47
So you oppose getting a vaccine edhopper Apr 2021 #49

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
19. But the Statute Specifically Says Selling Vaccination Card with CDC Logo is Illegal
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:52 PM
Apr 2021

also mentions buying, using or transferring

TheBlackAdder

(28,181 posts)
35. eBay is just a cesspool of bootleg, gray-market and expired goods. Very little monitoring.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:39 PM
Apr 2021

.

Just as long as the cash churns, they seem to look the other way.

I mostly stay away from that shithole, because most of the stuff you buy will be bogus or misstated.

And never buy shit from eBay in the EU, you have a high probability of getting fucked, esp. from Germany.

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Stallion

(6,474 posts)
3. I Don't Get It
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:25 PM
Apr 2021

say these will used to take a cruise for example

so you are going to make written certifications and present a driver's license, passport and a fraudulent vaccine card to the federal officials at embarkation and debarkation. Meanwhile you are required to present drivers license or other documentation to be recorded in federal database which would establish conclusively whether that persons actually got the vaccine at the location, date listed on the vaccination card.

What happens if there is a Covid outbreak. The CDC will need to track down to confirm the person was vaccinated. This would be a very easy criminal violation to prove and its a 5 year felony

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
7. you have to understand
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:50 PM
Apr 2021

a lot of these same people voted for Donald Fucking Trump TWICE......their critical thinking skills are very lacking indeed

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
4. That's why I think they should have kept a governmental record. I don't care
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:29 PM
Apr 2021

who thinks it's Big Brother watching.

Edit: - I just read that they are keeping a record. So yea if someone uses a fake vaccine card I bet they could be in a lot of trouble, especially if someone gets sick.

MagickMuffin

(15,933 posts)
6. Notary record: It would be safer if a Notary person stamped the card upon leaving
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:34 PM
Apr 2021


I knew there would be grifters and scammers. It's unfortunate that it has come to this.


global1

(25,237 posts)
8. EBay Should Shut Down His Sales And Ban Him From EBay And The State Should....
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:50 PM
Apr 2021

revoke his license. He should also get a visit from the FBI. Put him in jail.

This needs to be shut down immediately to stop anyone else from getting the idea and doing the same.

MerryBlooms

(11,761 posts)
44. Anyone can print a card. At least in Oregon, the state is tracking
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:41 AM
Apr 2021

each vaccine. If a duplicate shows up, the system will catch it. If a phony lot number shows up, and the other number, I can't remember off the top of my head what my card says, but the system will catch it. I get the anti vax folks are pushing the vax cards are no good, but each vax that goes into an arm, is recorded with the state and, if a person has one, their primary doc.

oregonjen

(3,335 posts)
50. The sticker of the lot number of the vaccine is on my card
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 10:35 AM
Apr 2021

How do you duplicate that sticker? Are all states using the same lot number stickers for the vaccine cards?

bucolic_frolic

(43,120 posts)
9. eBay would rather throttle existing sellers than look for fraud
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:06 PM
Apr 2021

Gives me reassurance the world will never change.

Javaman

(62,510 posts)
10. We live in the era of the bar code
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:14 PM
Apr 2021

Why aren’t the card issued with theme then the barcode it loaded into a data base?

When I get my blood tests, everything is barcode so there is no confusion.

This is just crazy

salin

(48,955 posts)
11. My card doesn't have that neon sticker (give away). Plus in Indiana - after the second shot
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:15 PM
Apr 2021

while in the waiting area (15 minutes to make sure no reaction after the shot) I received notification/documentation from the state dept of health to document that I have received the vaccine. If other states do this as well - folks using the fake cards could be rooted out by not having the electronic documentation.

Throw the book at the fraudsters selling, and at the fraudsters using/deceiving those around them that they are "safe" due to (not) having been vaccinated.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
12. I didn't get any notification from state to document that I received the vaccine.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:16 PM
Apr 2021

All I have as proof is the card.

salin

(48,955 posts)
13. It's hard to fathom that Indiana (ranking 43 in rate of vaccinations) might be ahead of the curve
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:34 PM
Apr 2021

Last edited Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:23 PM - Edit history (1)

on something related to the pandemic.

I didn't know the electronic certificate was coming - until it hit my phone.

Side note - the legislature (extremely radical) is busy undoing the repub. Governor's emergency power. That they haven't objected to or stopped this (cause - *gasp* could be like a "passport" ), suggests that most of them either haven't gotten vaccinated and thus don't know about it - or they are vaccinated and relieved but playing vaxholes as a dangerous performative game.

Captain Zero

(6,799 posts)
15. Can you be arrested for having a card, but not
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:44 PM
Apr 2021
being in the database? If you actually got a shot, basic information was entered into a database at the time you got it. If you have a card from eBay there will be no corresponding info in the database. Good luck with that cross-check.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
34. Under what law do you think someone could be arrested
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:34 PM
Apr 2021

for having a card, but not being in the database?

Rebl2

(13,483 posts)
20. I can't
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 08:54 PM
Apr 2021

believe eBay would allow this person to sell these and should be banned from selling anything.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
23. I got the J&J shot nearly a month ago.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:06 PM
Apr 2021

My card has J&J Lot # xxxxx, the date and location of my vaccination as well as my name. Is there any way to actually connect my name with my vaccination? I would hope so. But there would need to be a central data base, and I'm guessing there simply isn't one out there.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
25. So, some people would rather pay for a fake card
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:19 PM
Apr 2021

instead of getting the vaccine, which can save your life and comes with a card for free. Alrighty then. 🤦?♀️

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
26. I knew that was coming.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:36 PM
Apr 2021

Ebay should close the seller's account, but they won't. They protect horrible sellers like a republican protects their guns.

FakeNoose

(32,617 posts)
27. People who use fake vaccination cards are only hurting themselves
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:44 PM
Apr 2021

All of us who have completed our vaccinations - we are safe from these assholes. Make no mistake - they ARE assholes. But the system was in place to help them, and they refused our help. They laughed in our faces and refused to wear masks, etc.

Now they are saying "Look at our FAKE vaccination cards. We're just as good as you are." But they aren't because the Coronavirus will find them and infect them. Maybe they will die, or maybe they'll survive. I don't really care. Maybe they will infect their loved ones.

It's not our problem. We offered them a free vaccine and they refused it. So fuck them.

Response to FakeNoose (Reply #27)

FakeNoose

(32,617 posts)
33. Yes true, but a mutation can happen at any time ... with anyone
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:31 PM
Apr 2021

Even animals have been contracting the virus. We vaccinated ones can also infect others. There's no way to know how or when this will end.

And don't get me started on Jenny McCarthy! Grrrrrrr!

Response to FakeNoose (Reply #33)

bem6207

(66 posts)
28. This shit pisses me off!!
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:01 PM
Apr 2021

Fucking ignorant tyrants. Can’t get anything productive accomplished because of these morons. Punish that idiot!! All of those years of education just thrown down the drain.... and for WHAT?!? Tool bag. Sick SICK of all of these deranged lunatics.

bem6207

(66 posts)
48. Exactly..
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 09:39 AM
Apr 2021

I scheduled mine on my Kroger app within seconds.. I went straight to the pharmacy two days later, checked in, and waited about 3 minutes, and I am vaccinated. I used my 15 minute waiting period to pick up a couple of grocery items. The entire process was effortless and Mississippi, of course, made it on the list of the least vaccinated states. It's pathetic.

Schmice3

(294 posts)
32. This should be punished with prison time.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:19 PM
Apr 2021

It is foreseeable that people will die and infect others. Reckless disregard for the safety of the public needs to be addressed harshly. This isn't a game.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
39. This is what happens
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 11:18 PM
Apr 2021

when you mix a 21st Century piece of science with a 19th Century piece of recordkeeping.

canetoad

(17,148 posts)
45. Despicable
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 02:34 AM
Apr 2021

So they want the benefit of being *considered vaccinated without having to violate their stupid fucking anti-vax mindset. I don't see much of a personal inner conflict here, do you?

L'il Gibby has an up to date vaccination card, it looks very similar to the one USALiberal posted above but it's genuine. I have no desire to risk her life or that of other animals. And ya know, she just sucked it up and didn't complain. Much.

spinbaby

(15,088 posts)
47. They're paying money for a card
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 06:42 AM
Apr 2021

When they can get a card for free just by getting the shot. The stupid hurts.

edhopper

(33,554 posts)
49. So you oppose getting a vaccine
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 10:32 AM
Apr 2021

because FREEDOM! But then hide the fact that you didn't get a vaccine with a fake card. Because you don't believe in your own bullshit.

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