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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHoly Crap. India is getting clobbered.
275,000 new cases yesterday with 1625 deaths.
Damn... all the vaccine mfg need to quadruple production like TOMORROW... we need to get shots in arms, worldwide.
Look at these numbers:
From yesterday
France, 30k new cases and 140 deaths
Turkey 56k new cases and 318 deaths
Germany 13k new cases and 65 deaths
Brazil 43k new cases and 1583 deaths
Mexico 4k new cases but 535 deaths
This thing is headed in the wrong damn direction in some parts of the world...
enki23
(7,791 posts)Per capita, their death rate (presuming these numbers to be correct, for what that's worth) is about the same as ours right now. Not to say it isn't a serious problem. Now Brazil, on the other hand, is a very, very serious problem.
womanofthehills
(8,798 posts)That is already in San Francisco. From The Times of India: ..... it might evade vaccines.
Read more at:
http://m.timesofindia.com/articleshow/82120030.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
BGBD
(3,282 posts)all ran by far right nationalists. Imagine that.
womanofthehills
(8,798 posts)The Brazil variant and the double mutant India variant might evade our vaccines. Pfizer is working on a booster for the African strain but what about the new Indian double mutant strain that seems to be more deadly. This is worrisome.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)we are still recovering from a far right nationalist ourselves.
We had something like a 50% higher population than Brazil. Their deaths are skyrocketing as ours have crashed. I think Biden's vaccination push has been pretty effective. I heard the same thing about the UK variant. I remember being told the next 12 weeks would be the worst we had seen because of it...and that was something like 8 weeks ago. So far that just hasn't been the case.
BigmanPigman
(51,648 posts)said that due to the variants the worst period for the US will be between April and July. He is usually pretty accurate in his assessments.
womanofthehills
(8,798 posts)And about 369,000 deaths
BGBD
(3,282 posts)Also, do you really think they have any real handle on deaths there?
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JI7
(89,283 posts)making sure their own population is vaccinated .
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JI7
(89,283 posts)I feel bad for those who don't support that and they are trying but it's difficult.
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JI7
(89,283 posts)I think the J&J was supposed to be the key to that because it's one shot and easier to transport.
womanofthehills
(8,798 posts)Very scary.
womanofthehills
(8,798 posts)But this new variant may to some degree escape vaccines
tirebiter
(2,539 posts)What makes you think any of the people would get any vaccines?
JI7
(89,283 posts)FlyingPiggy
(3,391 posts)Get it under control soon.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Modi is a failure.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)He's down to something like a ~25% approval rate in Brazil.
He should be zero.
progree
(10,929 posts)This is something I prepared tonight on another thread that was about Brazil. But the below article has a lot on India. I also added India to my list of sample countries --
Excerpts from https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/04/17/worldwide-covid19-death-toll-surpasses-3-million
just on Brazil:
Worldwide COVID-19 death toll surpasses 3 million, AP, 4/17/21
In Brazil, where deaths are running at about 3,000 per day, accounting for one-quarter of the lives lost worldwide in recent weeks, the crisis has been likened to a raging inferno by one WHO official. A more contagious variant of the virus has been rampaging across the country.
As cases surge, hospitals are running out of critical sedatives. As a result, there have been reports of some doctors diluting what supplies remain and even tying patients to their beds while breathing tubes are pushed down their throats.
The slow vaccine rollout has crushed Brazilians pride in their own history of carrying out huge immunization campaigns that were the envy of the developing world.
Taking cues from President Jair Bolsonaro, who has likened the virus to little more than a flu, his Health Ministry for months bet big on a single vaccine, ignoring other producers. When bottlenecks emerged, it was too late to get large quantities in time.
They also talk about India a lot. What's especially alarming is that India has stopped exporting vaccines, because of very strong and growing domestic needs. They were once a vaccine-exporting powerhouse
As for the world, daily new Covid cases (7 day moving average) reached a record about 3 days ago, exceeding its former January 11 all time high, but has backed off a bit in the last 3 days.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/coronavirus-maps.html
On daily new Covid cases (7 day moving average per 100k), Brazil is not much worse than the U.S. and less than a number of European countries and southern South America neighbors:
United States: 20
Brazil: 29
Argentina: 47
Uruguay: 74
Chile: 37
France: 49
Sweden: 60
Poland: 43
India: 13
The world's highest daily new Covid death rate countries (7 day moving average of deaths per 100k), ranked highest to lowest: (leaving out some micro nations and micro islands), Brazil is a standout...
Hungary: 2.58
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 2.11
Uruguay: 1.60
Bulgaria: 1.58
North Macedonia: 1.47
Slovakia: 1.42
Poland: 1.36
Brazil: 1.26
Ukraine, Croatia, Paraguay, Kosovo, Peru, Czech Republic Romania, Greece, ...
...
dot dot dot
United States: 0.23
...
India: 0.07
At least Brazil's new case rate and new death rate are headed down after peaking in March and early April respectively.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/americas/brazil-coronavirus-cases.html
Of course all of the above for all countries is REPORTED cases and REPORTED deaths. I don't vouch for or defend their accuracy.
Folks, in all fairness, populous countries will have more cases and deaths. It's more fair to compare countries in per capita cases (e.g. per 100k population like the above), and more in line with one's risk of getting infected if one is visiting or living there. Just like we get mad as hell when some rightie compares some barely inhabited red state's total cases and death's to California's or New York's, and then claims this as proof that masks and vaccines and socialism don't work.
India has more than 21 times the population that France does. So comparing, for example, India to France on a raw case count and raw death count is very misleading if one doesn't keep that in mind. I'm not saying that the OP is doing that, but it's easy for the casual reader to make that comparison without realizing how great the population difference is. I was surprised when I made the calculation.
Brazil has 3.3 times the population of France.