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Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:03 PM

Does anyone know if the NY Gov. has pardon power for state crimes?

If so, I think we now know why they're going after Gov. Cuomo so hard (unless he's not running again in 2022).



Zeldin [major Trump loyalist], who voted to overturn the certification of electoral votes on January 6, will challenge New York Governor Andrew Cuomo in 2022. And given that all New York Primaries are scheduled for June 2022, Zeldin will likely have to give us his House seat to run his gubernatorial campaign.



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Reply Does anyone know if the NY Gov. has pardon power for state crimes? (Original post)
Sogo Apr 2021 OP
2naSalit Apr 2021 #1
StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #2
Sogo Apr 2021 #5
2naSalit Apr 2021 #8
StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #9
Hekate Apr 2021 #18
qazplm135 Apr 2021 #3
Sogo Apr 2021 #7
qazplm135 Apr 2021 #11
Sogo Apr 2021 #14
qazplm135 Apr 2021 #17
Sogo Apr 2021 #22
qazplm135 Apr 2021 #27
brooklynite Apr 2021 #20
Sogo Apr 2021 #23
brooklynite Apr 2021 #24
Sogo Apr 2021 #25
caber09 Apr 2021 #28
brooklynite Apr 2021 #36
caber09 Apr 2021 #37
brooklynite Apr 2021 #38
caber09 Apr 2021 #39
PJMcK Apr 2021 #15
qazplm135 Apr 2021 #16
caber09 Apr 2021 #29
TreasonousBastard Apr 2021 #4
greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #6
PoliticAverse Apr 2021 #10
TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #12
Sogo Apr 2021 #13
brooklynite Apr 2021 #19
PoliticAverse Apr 2021 #21
caber09 Apr 2021 #31
brooklynite Apr 2021 #34
caber09 Apr 2021 #35
BGBD Apr 2021 #26
caber09 Apr 2021 #30
BGBD Apr 2021 #32
caber09 Apr 2021 #33

Response to Sogo (Original post)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:10 PM

1. I'm pretty sure that...

The Gov. has such powers. And, yes, I think the purpose of the attacks on Cuomo are for that very reason, to get him out of office so whomever would pardon the don would be in place for that very reason.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:11 PM

2. And Cuomo has played right into their hands

 

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:13 PM

5. I don't think so.

If he had caved and resigned, THEN is when he would have been playing into their hands....IMO....

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Response to Sogo (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:17 PM

8. +1

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Response to Sogo (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:18 PM

9. Even if he didn't resign, his behavior has been a distraction and will make reelectionl

 

more difficult than it needs to be.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 04:34 PM

18. As soon as the Matt Gaetz story broke, I noticed the Dem Circular Firing Squad backed off Cuomo

I don’t know what they’re doing in NY, but I’m not seeing the Cuomo attacks here any more.

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:11 PM

3. how is Zeldin running

related to all of those women making separate claims against him, including several Democrats?

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:14 PM

7. I'm sure they were "dug up," just like Tara Reade was for Biden....

And, no doubt, some were paid....IMO.

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Response to Sogo (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:40 PM

11. you're "sure"

based on what?

Tara Reade was one person.

We are talking about a lot more than one person. People who worked directly for the Governor. People who are Democrats.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:35 PM

14. You'll notice also that I've stated what I've said is "IMO."

I'm no expert, but can speculate along with the rest of us here on DU.

BTW, why are those women coming out just now about the alleged harassment?

But also based on knowing at the time that what Tara Reade was saying was a lie....

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Response to Sogo (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 04:20 PM

17. everything on here

is "in someone's opinion."

Rank speculation with no evidence is your right, as is mine to note that you have engaged in same.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 09:37 PM

22. In this case, rank "intuition"

is a better description, with the evidence of timing of this and other incidents.

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Response to Sogo (Reply #22)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 12:44 PM

27. intuition

"the ability to understand something immediately, without the need for conscious reasoning."

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Response to Sogo (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 05:31 PM

20. So if a woman doesn't publicly accuse immediately after the occurrence, it didn't happen"?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #20)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 10:00 PM

23. So, no matter when a woman accuses, it happened,

and there is no presumption of innocence?

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Response to Sogo (Reply #23)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 10:11 PM

24. The situation with Cuomo (and with Franken) is that it wasn't "a" woman.

There were multiple accusations. Conspiracies become a lot more difficult the more people you add.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 10:30 PM

25. My post was in response to your question about "a" woman,

and presumption of innocence still stands. Cuomo, himself, has called for an investigation. What's wrong with allowing that to play out?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #24)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 02:06 PM

28. How many of the women are pressing charges thus far? ZERO

 

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Response to caber09 (Reply #28)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 03:07 PM

36. Filing criminal charges are not necessary. Sometimes simple acknowledgement is enough...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #36)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 03:21 PM

37. That's BS and you know this..

 

You are going to make these sort of accusations you should back it up, why not press charges, show they are serious instead of refusing to cooperate with each an every inquiry, or refusing to talk to the local police...these are serious accusations and should not be used for Twitter retweets, gossiping amongst each other on their own accounts or raising cash for a failing borough presidents candidacy.

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Response to caber09 (Reply #37)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 04:09 PM

38. When Christine Blasey Ford accused Brett Kavanaugh....

...did you discount her accusation because she didn't file charges as soon as it happened?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #38)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 04:17 PM

39. Nope, it was waaaaaay before the Me Too Movement...

 

This is Post Me too Movement, 1 of the women is a vocal supporter of women who have been abused, but left and went back to work for Cuomo years later, 1 continuously praised him on twitter about being proud to work for a Governor who respects and works hard for women (after she alleges some of these events happened), 1 accuser said her son erased a video on his phone showing worse evidence but bragged about receiving a letter from Cuomo on facebook months later, 1 accuser kept a framed photo of her and Cuomo in her office again after alleged incidences happened, 1 accuser said he patted her on her shoulder and joked around with her and coworkers, 1 accuser said he made fun of her phone & complimented her for shouting down an annoying male reporter, 1 accuser said she thought there was an occasion he may have looked down her blouse, 1 accuser was herself accused of bullying/harassing her coworkers, several are refusing to cooperate with each and every investigation or talk to Albany police...and you are comparing these situations to what Ford said about Kavanaugh...you minimize Ford's situation by comparing it to this stuff..again you are better than this.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:53 PM

15. Perhaps that's not the connection

I think Zeldin is running for Governor so if he wins, he can pardon Trump for any state crimes he may be facing.

You know those Republicans. Right or wrong, they stand together.

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 04:19 PM

16. He'd be doing that

regardless of who is on the other side.

I also have confidence that if someone else was nominated for the Democrats that, in NY, they'd beat a Trumper.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #16)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 02:07 PM

29. Are you from NY? I am..dont be so sure, if its a far left candidate, hello Gov Zeldin

 

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:12 PM

4. Yes.

https://www.dos.ny.gov/info/constitution/article_4_executive.html

[Reprieves, commutations and pardons; powers and duties of governor relating to grants of]
§4. The governor shall have the power to grant reprieves, commutations and pardons after conviction, for all offenses except treason and cases of impeachment, upon such conditions and with such restrictions and limitations, as he or she may think proper, subject to such regulations as may be provided by law relative to the manner of applying for pardons. Upon conviction for treason, the governor shall have power to suspend the execution of the sentence, until the case shall be reported to the legislature at its next meeting, when the legislature shall either pardon, or commute the sentence, direct the execution of the sentence, or grant a further reprieve. The governor shall annually communicate to the legislature each case of reprieve, commutation or pardon granted, stating the name of the convict, the crime of which the convict was convicted, the sentence and its date, and the date of the commutation, pardon or reprieve. (Formerly §5. Renumbered by Constitutional Convention of 1938 and approved by vote of the people November 8, 1938; further amended by vote of the people November 6, 2001.)

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:14 PM

6. Zeldin's House seat is safe R

Suffolk County is filled with Trump fanatics, NYPD, and people who moved out of NYC for...reasons...

They could run a oyster they just pulled out of the Sound on an R ticket and the oyster would win by 10%.

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:31 PM

10. You think Democrats in New York are going "so hard" against Cuomo to help Trump? Really?? n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:00 PM

12. I think that Republican's are playing some people

As Snotty Walker would say, "Divide and Conquer"

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:12 PM

13. It's psyops

They know Dems go after their own on the sexual harassment charges, so the Rs throw the stink bomb and run, leaving the Ds to fight among themselves.

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 05:29 PM

19. WHY do people imagine that the Cuomo situation is about pardoning Trump?

...and apparently is a "set-up" rather than legitimate accusations?


Trump is NOT that popular in New York, even among Republicans.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 08:30 PM

21. Conspiracy theories are all the rage these days. n/t

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 02:11 PM

31. Come on Brooklynite, you have to know this is why Zeldin at least is running for Gov

 

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Response to caber09 (Reply #31)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 02:28 PM

34. No, I DON'T have to know it...

...absent evidence. Republicans have always wanted to run for Senate or Governor without factoring Trump or QANON into it. And being in the House minority is no fun.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #34)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 02:38 PM

35. You are better than that Brooklynite..Zeldin specifically is getting in this to try to help Trump

 

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Response to Sogo (Original post)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 12:14 AM

26. New York isn't going to be a tough election

 

for any Democrat.

Trump lost New York by 2 million votes. All the democrat needs to do is tie the republican to Trump, which they will do themselves to win the primary. That's it.

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Response to BGBD (Reply #26)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 02:11 PM

30. Are you from NY? Born and raised here, if Dems put up a far left candidate, hello Gov Zeldin...

 

and hello Trump pardon...this is the situation the Rs want. Lets see how the investigations play out, the women arent cooperating with the State Senate Investigation, none of them have pressed charges either...so whats the point? If he did something criminal, press charges....the one lady who said he touched her wont talk to Albany police or file a report...why not?

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Response to caber09 (Reply #30)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 02:16 PM

32. I was referring more to

 

Cuomo not having an election problem.

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Response to BGBD (Reply #32)

Tue Apr 20, 2021, 02:25 PM

33. Cuomo had a little above 40% approval right before last election...won in landslide..

 

He is down around his lows now but enjoys huge support in African Americans and NYC..they just had a story that although down to his low...it has steadied over the last weeks...even now over 50% dont want him to leave...& with vaccine rollouts, more appointments, state budget done on time, things opening up more, a new arena for Islanders opening later this year that he was instrumental in helping get done..unless something worse breaks AKA not "he made fun of my watch", "he kissed me on the cheek like he does alot of people on the campaign trail" "he may of looked at me like he wanted me" (or if any charges are actually pressed, but at this point they shouldve been already) he could follow the Ralph Northam strategy of riding out the storm and regaining his popularity.

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