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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs the defense trying to get Chauvin convicted?
He's showing all these bodycam videos as if they are exculpatory. Instead, they are damning.
madaboutharry
(42,031 posts)He is attempting to get them mixed up so they dont know what to believe. Such bullshit.
On rebuttal the prosecution will remind them to believe their own eyes.
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)nt
sop
(17,942 posts)I get that he's got nothing, but he's just blathering on and then showing the videos.
markie
(23,955 posts)depraved...
well, what else does the defense have???
Raven
(14,275 posts)watching, and the videos sound awful. Floyd sounds like a drowning man pleading for help. Again, this doesn't mean a thing if there is one person on the jury looking to deny what they've seen.
mcar
(45,817 posts)He keeps saying "reasonable," as if any of this is reasonable. He just actually mocked the prosecution focusing on 9 min. 29 sec.
duhneece
(4,491 posts)Over and over again so many times I lost track
UTUSN
(77,303 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,682 posts)If jurors determine the use of force was reasonable and thus authorized, they can't convict. All the defense needs to do is create a doubt around that point. It's horrifying to rewatch the video like this, but the defense is trying to establish this is all by the book.
mcar
(45,817 posts)that even the chief of police said it wasn't reasonable force.
sop
(17,942 posts)I imagine Nelson wants the jury to remember only this one phrase.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,682 posts)a kennedy
(35,579 posts)Kinda like the Joe Manchin of the jury. Sorry, this is not the place for that. I am just afraid of that one jurors doubt.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,682 posts)maxrandb
(17,286 posts)Something about Mr. Floyd having "super human strength".
Defense actually arguing that what the evil, murdering fucksticks cop did was "reasonable", because "hey, maybe like a pregnant women whose child is trapped under a car, George Floyd might go all SHAZAM and throw a car at the cops".
That's some insane shit.
mcar
(45,817 posts)Bettie
(19,447 posts)one "cops are never wrong" guy on the jury and are hoping that the more guilty he looks the more that guy will want to let him off.
Otherwise, I've got nothing.
sop
(17,942 posts)life, keeping him from thrashing around and injuring himself further by holding him down on the pavement, placing him face down so Floyd wouldn't aspirate his own vomit while experiencing the drug overdose that actually killed him.
PCIntern
(28,097 posts)I was just thinking the exact same thing. Chauvin should be in line to get a presidential medal of freedom.
liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)Ms. Toad
(38,410 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 19, 2021, 03:08 PM - Edit history (1)
- space aliens invading Chauvin's body
- repeatedly showing horrific video clips (including one that ends with Chauvin saying, "I got a scratch on my knee . . . I think I'll live"
- pregnant woman picking up the car
- misrepresenting the state's burden: that the must prove that none of these other things played any role. That is not generally the standard - although I didn't hear the jury instruction this morning. (I know Chauvin's counsel asked for a standard that is more challenging for the state to meed - don't know if that request was granted.)
ETA (4:07 PM): The judge just confirmed that defense counsel misstated the law as to causation.
