Jury has been seated in chamber, now defense whining

[Dawgman49]

and trying to set up arguments for mistrial, blaming TV, a member of congress, and thousands of e mails he has received....it ai’nt fair.. judge denied motion for mistrial

[Ocelot II]

1. This is completely normal. The defense has to raise any issue now

or it's considered to be waived on appeal. He's making sure his butt is covered, because if Chauvin is convicted - and he probably will be - he is certain to appeal.

[ecstatic]

19. Interesting. Thanks for clarifying

I'm watching delayed footage and was a little concerned.

[Deuxcents]

2. I'm not versed in judicial matters

But it sounds to me the defense lawyer has been whining a lot thru out this trial. He’s seems to be setting up a situation for appeal..which is expected, I think, but the judge does not seem impressed

[sarisataka]

3. The defense is doing

What a defense is supposed to do.

People need to stop being surprised by that.

[barbtries]

4. i'm not surprised by it.

i am disgusted though.

[Ocelot II]

6. It's a real trial in the real world.

[barbtries]

8. nah.

[Ocelot II]

16. Yes, it is.

I'm a retired lawyer, and I worked in the county where this trial was held. There was nothing at all unusual about this one except for its high profile, the fact that it was televised, and the covid procedures. It was by the book, and that's what the book looks like.

[USALiberal]

10. So you prefer the appeal says defense did not do their job??? Nt

[barbtries]

12. they have to do their job.

i would prefer it didn't include so much dishonesty, obfuscation, and victim blaming.

[Ocelot II]

5. Exactly. No matter what happens, this trial has provided a good education

as to how trials work in the real world as opposed to on TV. The defense lawyer has been doing exactly what he had to do. He has a crap case with bad facts for his client, so he was reduced pretty much to squirting out a cloud of legal squid ink; if you know you aren't likely to win you have to try for damage control. But that's how it works.

[uponit7771]

7. Well, if they knew what defense attorneys were supposed to do that'd be easy. I would think

... the defense attorney isn't supposed to be a cheer leader but an advocate and he should've advocated for Chauvin to plead guilty and beg for mercey

[Ocelot II]

9. He might have done that, but the decision to go to trial would be the client's,

not the lawyer's.

[sarisataka]

11. As was mentioned elsewhere

There was a plea deal, 10 yrs for 3rd degree murder. It was nixed by Barr because it involved no Federal charges.

Without the deal, they must have felt the chances were better with a jury than a guilty plea.

[uponit7771]

13. Couldn't Chauvin just get up in the middle of the trial and beg? I'm serious, I don't know if ...

... I could gamble this if I was him?

You're right ... I do remember reading that Barr nixed a plea deal

[sarisataka]

14. I expect after the conviction

(I am a bit presumptuous) I think we will then see a lot of remorse and begging.

Will it be sincere?...

[uponit7771]

15. 👍🏾

[Ocelot II]

17. That only happens on TV.

[TwilightZone]

18. Agreed.

Particularly the routine stuff.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

20. "People need to stop being surprised by that."

I'm saying.