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Before you alert because I am peddling right wing talking points, please read!
I need help countering a right wing talking point.
I had three people I work with, all who never wear a mask try and tell me a new report claims masks are not affective. Yes, they are all trump followers.
My response was what right wing site is touting this. No response. I only found one on a quick google search and it definitely right wing.
So, how many here have had right wingers shouting this?
I am only going to stop wearing a mask when Dr Fauci says I can.
They admitted that flue season was far less severe than normal, but still they believe what they want regardless of facts.
Rant off
dawg day
(7,947 posts)There is no such report-- nothing legit, anyway.
The only way to deal with these people is to say, "Fine. Stay out of my way then. I don't want you to make me sick."
(That can be taken two ways.)
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)All but the two Mexican immigrants. They and I are the only ones wearing masks
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Mar 8, 2021 -- As more states drop COVID-19 restrictions, the CDC issued a report Friday saying coronavirus case counts went down when states mandated face masks and that coronavirus-related deaths went up in places when indoor dining resumed.
CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, said thats a good reason for states to stay vigilant with safety measures, especially during this period when national coronavirus statistics are leveling off but new variants are appearing.
You have decreases in cases and deaths when you wear masks, and you have increases in cases and deaths when you have in-person restaurant dining, Walensky said at a Friday news briefing. We would advocate for policies, certainly while were at this plateau of a high number of cases, that would listen to that public health science.
The CDCs Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report said mask mandates adopted last year were linked to almost a 2% drop in new COVID cases within 100 days of adoption
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210308/cdc-issues-new-report-on-face-mask-effectiveness
TheFarseer
(9,317 posts)You can smell a fart through a mask so thats proof it doesnt work. Qanon logic
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)It's been debunked. It's not peer-reviewed, it's just a hypothesis written by someone who has a very distant association with Stanford.
robbob
(3,522 posts)Penned by Baruch Vainshelboim? It was in an Instagram post accompanied by the user rant claiming it was a peer reviewed Stanford study and demanding to know why is this not headline news across the globe???.
So I wasted an hour researching the veracity of this research paper and found out no, it isnt out of Stanford, it isnt peer reviewed, and its full of speculative theories, like how masks reduce oxygen flow to the brain (not true), accompanied by fear mongering descriptions of what happens to people getting insufficient oxygen to the brain. Which again, wearing a mask will NOT do.
This study was posted on a site called Medical Hypotheses, which is a forum for people to postulate and put out theories they have on various scientific topics, with the only criteria being they have coherent and clearly expressed ideas.
I found a great rebuttal to this article here:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-629043235973
Feel free to share with anyone claiming this is a new discovery. It isnt. Its speculation, and based on half truths at that.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)to engage in any activity you wouldn't have done anyway if you weren't wearing the mask.
> They admitted that flue season was far less severe than normal
Well yeah people were not engaging in anywhere near the number of group activities they were in 'normal' years so that isn't surprising.
forgotmylogin
(7,520 posts)they were accustomed to due to mask wearing.
brush
(53,743 posts)an airborne virus.
Lack of critical thinking skills there. They are vulnerable to trump think. Too bad for them.
mcar
(42,278 posts)Tink41
(537 posts)right wing spelling as well. Flu, effective.
There aren't any "new" reports coming out about the masks cause it's been beat to death. The masks are to protect those around you. In Japan they wear masks anytime they have a sniffle, cough, stuffy nose. They are respectful of others.
That is all anyone needs to know. Protect those around you.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)It was idiotic not to come out and say this in the first place, knowing how evil and selfish 40% of Americans are.
Tink41
(537 posts)If you need that added to your reasons. It's been a year, this is old. Getting old, not like these people just returned from Mars being gone a year. If you don't get it by now....
Had an encounter this morning in a grocery store. I'm just on edge today, had it with the idiots. Mask down over the nose chit chatting with all the associates. Asking what happened to some workers that were there for 20+ yrs. I'm thinking "probably died after exposure to idiots like you."
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)...protect the wearer dramatically!
I think one of the big PR mistakes re: masks was to push the notion that we were doing for others.
If that PR had been protect yourself AND others even the idiot King's intransigence might not have been as damaging.
There were studies as far back as midsummer 2020 showing this result. Why CDC ignored that for so long is frustrating.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)If people had understood it, the genocide would have been far less effective. Uncle Vlad only pays for results.
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)Especially given who was running CDC at the time.
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)barrier. I think I will continue wearing them forever.
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)I mostly only go to grocery stores
maxsolomon
(33,251 posts)You need HR to back you up, or you need a new job.
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)There is no HR.
I was called into my bosses office because I demanded anyone aproaching my desk needed a mask.
The owner had Covid and now thinks he is superman.
I would quit, but here in the south, you would get the same thing elsewhere
maxsolomon
(33,251 posts)Get your jab, wear your N95. You'll probably be OK.
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)struggle4progress
(118,234 posts)liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)Mariana
(14,854 posts)Their assertion is that there is "a new report". OK. Have they read it? What is the title? Who wrote it? Where is it published? Etc.
robbob
(3,522 posts)Its circulating on social media, and its complete bunk. And a good rebuttal, here:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-629043235973