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https://www.keysnews.com/ap/national/2-us-agencies-send-teams-to-probe-tesla-crash-with-no-driver/article_cccc599c-a182-11eb-8a3f-039089e7427e.htmlSo here's the situation: On Saturday night, a 59-year-old man and a 69-year-old man boarded a 2019 Tesla Model S automobile in the vicinity of the city of Spring, Texas. One of them sat in the front passenger seat, and the other sat in the back seat. No one sat in the driver's seat. It is not known who either man voted for in the 2020 election.
The car then proceeded to miss a curve at high speed, travel 100 feet, plow into a huge tree and catch fire. Both men were, as you would expect, killed.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board are investigating.
And one of the things they SHOULD be investigating is the fact the Spring Fire Department pumped 32,000 gallons of water on the car before the fire would go out. The fire department called Tesla and were told to "just let it burn out on its own."
But seriously, even if your car has "full self driving capability" that the manufacturer swears will not drive itself, who the fuck thinks not at least sitting in the driver's seat is a good idea? Were they, like, drunk off their asses and thought they wouldn't get busted for DUI if they weren't driving?
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Link to tweet
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the artist fka coincelpro
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Apr 20, 2021
I cant believe weve entrusted Elon Musk to fix all of the worlds most dire problems because he has shown us time and again that he doesnt know what hes doing but we just reward him with billions of dollars and a license to blow up 30 spaceships
the artist fka coincelpro
@peachofababy
Is there a comprehensive history of every problem he promised to solve and the outcomes? Because Im remembering the Thai cave rescue incident and also how Elon publicly announced that he had singlehandedly fixed the ventilator shortage but he actually just had a bunch of cpaps
2naSalit
(86,502 posts)Just shrivel up and blow away.
Iggo
(47,546 posts)How is that not a feature on these vehicles?
jmowreader
(50,546 posts)...and shuts down the car (hopefully not in traffic!) if it doesn't detect them. According to the article, it's pretty easy to defeat.
Because, as you know, just sticking a sensor under the driver's seat that looks for weight is too plebeian for Tesla's vehicles.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)By far the most likely situation Ive heard is that the owner was letting his friend try out how fast the car was, his friend did not expect it to be so fast and quickly lost control, the vehicle crashed, the drivers door got bent, blocked or rendered inoperable so the driver moved around trying to get out another door before the fire got to him. When authorities arrived at the scene they found no-one in the drivers seat and presumed it had been in this fancy autopilot mode that everyones been talking about.
Its pretty much impossible that the events happened the way thats been portrayed in the media, who have wanted a more sensational story. The Constable only made things worse when he insisted that nobody was in the drivers seat when the crash occurred (how they would have known this he doesnt explain). For this to have happened would have required a very extravagant and deliberate attempt at circumventing Teslas safety systems, which check for weight in the drivers seat, a buckled seat belt and torque on the steering wheel inter alia. And all that would have had to be done in the few hundred feet between the owners driveway and where the accident occurred, PLUS have autopilot unexpectedly and violently accelerate down a residential street straight into a tree as soon as they rigged it. Yeah, thats probably what happened.
Also, the fire from the car took a few minutes to put out, the fire department has also had to put out the PR rumor that it took them hours to extinguish it. Now precautionary measures were surely in place for longer periods, just as they would be for a gas fire or where surrounding vegetation may have caught fire.
Iggo
(47,546 posts)That's what I was looking (hoping) for. Thank you!
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)Is also a consideration. Very well all of these vehicles could be pulled. Imagine stopping the clearing of a major intersection for hours.
Disaffected
(4,554 posts)A tankful of gasoline could explode in a huge fireball rather than slowly burn out.
When examining the shortcomings of electric cars (and "self-driving" for that matter) one also has to consider the shortcomings of what they are replacing.