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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 03:46 AM Apr 2021

New Texas COVID-19 variant resistant to antibodies, researchers say

https://kfor.com/news/new-texas-covid-19-variant-resistant-to-antibodies-researchers-say/amp/

COLLEGE STATION, Texas (KXAN) — Texas A&M University researchers have identified a new COVID-19 variant that originated in the state.

Scientists at the Texas A&M Global Health Research Complex (GHRC) identified the variant — called BV-1 after Brazos Valley, where it originated — from a saliva sample taken from a student as a part of an ongoing testing program. Researchers believe it’s related to the United Kingdom variant.

The student with the confirmed case showed mild flu-like symptoms for nearly a month, suggesting this new variant may cause a longer than normal infection in young adults. Although only one mild case has been confirmed, researchers are worried that the variant shows resistance to antibodies.

“We do not at present know the full significance of this variant, but it has a combination of mutations similar to other internationally notifiable variants of concern,” GHRC Chief Virologist Ben Neuman said in a press release. “This variant combines genetic markers separately associated with rapid spread, severe disease and high resistance to neutralizing antibodies.”

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New Texas COVID-19 variant resistant to antibodies, researchers say (Original Post) SheltieLover Apr 2021 OP
Lord Almighty, help us. secondwind Apr 2021 #1
Looks like the new variants could be popping up wnylib Apr 2021 #2
The vaccines themselves can cause the virus to mutate madville Apr 2021 #13
The reason people get covid after the vaccine is Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #23
I'm talking about viruses evolving to develop vaccine resistance madville Apr 2021 #25
Thanks for reminding me. There was wnylib Apr 2021 #26
This is really not good. Oh well... sprinkleeninow Apr 2021 #3
I hope this doesn't mean the vaccines can not Meowmee Apr 2021 #4
That makes my day. TexasTowelie Apr 2021 #5
Abbott probably had it cooked up in a laboratory. Crunchy Frog Apr 2021 #6
Great. Silver Gaia Apr 2021 #7
This is why we need a drug, not just vaccine. boston bean Apr 2021 #8
What antibodies? Dr. Shepper Apr 2021 #9
at some point vaccinations for covid will be mandatory, just like measles and other old vaccinations lindysalsagal Apr 2021 #10
I agree 100% OhioChick Apr 2021 #11
The problem with this variant Dr. Shepper Apr 2021 #14
Already in the works. Tommymac Apr 2021 #18
So, what about us that got the J&J? bamagal62 Apr 2021 #20
Don't know. Have only heard these rumours about the 2 shot versions. Tommymac Apr 2021 #21
"Wanna bet the yearlies are not going to be free of charge for everyone?" area51 Apr 2021 #27
More here in a 4/19 article at Texas A&M Today: highplainsdem Apr 2021 #12
Fortunately Texas is doing everything it can to stop the spread Takket Apr 2021 #15
Article is doom porn Loki Liesmith Apr 2021 #16
I hope it's not resistant to masks. NurseJackie Apr 2021 #17
fuck! LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #19
If you remain unvaccinated for bullshit reasons you are a public health menace. roamer65 Apr 2021 #22
Can we start calling it edhopper Apr 2021 #24

wnylib

(21,340 posts)
2. Looks like the new variants could be popping up
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 04:06 AM
Apr 2021

faster than the vaccine manufacturers can keep up with in their boosters.

Thanks to the stupid anti maskers.

madville

(7,404 posts)
13. The vaccines themselves can cause the virus to mutate
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 06:44 AM
Apr 2021

There have been many articles published discussing this topic, mostly as reasoning not to delay longer than necessary between the first and second doses.

Since a small percentage of people still get covid after being vaccinated or between their first and second doses, new mutations/variants are more likely to emerge from those infections because it trying to find a way around the vaccine protection.

Phoenix61

(16,993 posts)
23. The reason people get covid after the vaccine is
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:46 AM
Apr 2021

because their body doesn’t respond to the vaccine, not because of any change in the virus.

madville

(7,404 posts)
25. I'm talking about viruses evolving to develop vaccine resistance
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:39 AM
Apr 2021

Viruses developing vaccine resistance is well published, that’s why vaccines have to evolve as well. Vaccinated individuals getting exposed to the virus are protected to some degree but it also gives the virus a playbook to evolve and develop resistance to that defense.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
4. I hope this doesn't mean the vaccines can not
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 04:21 AM
Apr 2021

Neutralize it even with a booster. If so ty america the stupid, you suck🤯

Crunchy Frog

(26,578 posts)
6. Abbott probably had it cooked up in a laboratory.
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 05:04 AM
Apr 2021

I'm pretty sure those R governors actively want these sorts of things popping up in their states.

Dr. Shepper

(3,014 posts)
9. What antibodies?
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 06:17 AM
Apr 2021

Administered monoclonal abs?

Naturally induced abs?


ETA - neutralizing abs. Meaning this variant is able to evade some immune response (administered and vaccine induced abs). A person should still be able to make antibodies in natural infection but it will take other immune responses to kill the virus.

I’m concerned.

lindysalsagal

(20,581 posts)
10. at some point vaccinations for covid will be mandatory, just like measles and other old vaccinations
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 06:17 AM
Apr 2021

Last edited Wed Apr 21, 2021, 06:49 AM - Edit history (1)

and we'll have to enforce it.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
11. I agree 100%
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 06:34 AM
Apr 2021

If something isn't done soon, we're going to have even more refrigerated trucks by our hospitals.

Dr. Shepper

(3,014 posts)
14. The problem with this variant
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 06:47 AM
Apr 2021

Is that it can evade the antibodies induced by current vaccines (if true - this has not been peer reviewed yet and more tests may show different results). We would need a yearly vaccine like influenza.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
18. Already in the works.
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:19 AM
Apr 2021

We will need a booster for the Moderna and Phizer in 6 to 12 months - both companies are working on it.

This comes from a close trusted source who works in a medical research facility and their doctors are already whispering about this probability to staff.

And both companies are whispering we are going to need a shot every 1 to 2 years, just like a flu shot.

Wanna bet the yearlies are not going to be free of charge for everyone?

bamagal62

(3,244 posts)
20. So, what about us that got the J&J?
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:27 AM
Apr 2021

In 6-12 months, do we get the moderna or Pfizer? I’m not sure I want another J&J in my arm. Has anyone spoken of what WE are to do?

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
21. Don't know. Have only heard these rumours about the 2 shot versions.
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:35 AM
Apr 2021

I trust the peeps who fed me this stuff.

But it is still a rumour, not verified by anything I can find out there so far.

area51

(11,896 posts)
27. "Wanna bet the yearlies are not going to be free of charge for everyone?"
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 12:29 PM
Apr 2021

This is what concerns me. Since healthcare in this country is considered a luxury, I will be surprised if the govt. pays for any further shots regarding Covid.

Takket

(21,528 posts)
15. Fortunately Texas is doing everything it can to stop the spread
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 06:49 AM
Apr 2021

The governor is following all CDC guidelines with mask mandates and not just leaving it up to every individual to decide if they want to spread the virus to their families or not.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
16. Article is doom porn
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 06:55 AM
Apr 2021

Resistance to antibodies happens and it doesn’t mean antibodies don’t work. It just means you need more of them to have a full effect.

Current vaccines I think put out 8x the number of antibodies as an infection does.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
17. I hope it's not resistant to masks.
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:03 AM
Apr 2021

I'll be glad when the anti-maskers die-off. Maybe our nation's collective IQ will rise, and our gullibility level will decline.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
22. If you remain unvaccinated for bullshit reasons you are a public health menace.
Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:38 AM
Apr 2021

You provide an avenue for viral recombination.

Period.

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