With a Straight face, people on TV keep saying that training is needed for the police

[samsingh]

Training for de-escalation and to have more standards.

This is utter crap.

The police who are killing black people show they can de-escalate when white perpetrators are involved. They choose to kills black people given any chance. Only prison sentences are going to change their behavior.
This is the same crap we used to hear from repugs that intelligence was wrong. The intelligence was right, repugs decide to ignore it.

[Wounded Bear]

1. I'm all for requiring 6-12 months, minimum of Secondary level education for LEO's...

One hour 'sensitivity' training won't do anything to weed out the real problems.

Police academies should go for months, not weeks, and include racial equity training as a core part of the curriculum, not some add-on bullshit.

[Phoenix61]

4. I think they should have to have a two year college degree

Then 12 month law enforcement training. Then a 12 month internship. In my perfect world they’d have to be over 25.

[Wounded Bear]

5. I could live with that...

I think the FBI requires a 2 year law degree IIRC.

Smaller towns might have a problem with some of this, though I would definitely support federal subsidies for some locations.

The internship is a great idea, make them do it unarmed, or with a taser and some pepper spray at most. Teach them to not go to lethal force so quickly.

[Phoenix61]

6. FBI requires a bachelors + 2 years work experience or a masters. nt

[Wounded Bear]

7. I stand corrected but I knew they didn't just hire street cops directly. nt

[GregariousGroundhog]

13. Many states actually do require post secondary education

Of the states that require it, most of them require 60 semester credits of education. Some require an awarded associates degree or better.

[TwilightZone]

9. Chauvin had a bachelor's degree in law enforcement.

"In 2006, Chauvin graduated from Metropolitan State University with a bachelor's degree in law enforcement"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Chauvin

In his particular case, he seems to have had plenty of training and education, but as his fellow officers and others testified at trial, he chose to ignore them.

[StarfishSaver]

2. They already have sufficient training. And it shows in how they are able to de-escalate situations

involving white people.

Training isn't the problem.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

8. You said it correctly

I live in portland and protests in downtown are treated much differently then they are in Lake Oswego. Why, people who have privilege expect the police to treat them a certain way and often the police do treat them much kinder with much less violent solutions (see all Karen/ivanka interactions to understand)

[brush]

10. Agreed. Rep. Clyburn stated recently that it's about vetting recruits thoroughly.

to weed out the racists, nazis and white supremacists. Thsy can be done by researching their online postings, their associates, high school, college and military affiliations, etc.

Better to spend the time and expense vetting potential recruits on the front end rather than having to pay millions out to families later after they've killed someone unjustly on the back end.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. Training just pours more money on an already bloated budget.

[snowybirdie]

11. Just watched a series

on Amazon taking place in Northern Ireland. The police announced themselves as "the police service". Love that recognition of what they are supposed to be. A service, not an invading army. And I'm a long time police family member who remembers when it was considered helpful and part of a community.

[Redleg]

12. It may also be that they needs less of other kinds of training

For example, the kind of training that frames the police as "warriors" and suspects as "hostiles." I do believe that they need good conflict resolution training. It is not evident to me that they are good at de-escalating conflict with white people. They might just be better at not escalating conflict with white people.

I agree that they need to be held accountable for their actions and that this will certainly help. Accountability is more complex than just having negative consequences for their mis-behavior. They also need to be given strong cues on the appropriate behaviors, trained in the behaviors, and regularly practice those behaviors. I also think they need to do a better job screening applicants. There seems to be a lot of bigots serving in the police.

[uponit7771]

14. THANK YOU !!!

[kcr]

15. They flat out ignored the evidence that white supremacists were infiltrating

our police forces. Training may be an issue, but at this point, it would be a band-aid measure. Nothing short of an overhaul will fix the problem at this point.