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dogknob

(2,431 posts)
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 06:36 PM Apr 2021

Republicans Go Berserk on House Floor after Rep. Calls out Their Racist Arguments on D.C. Statehood

"I have had enough of my colleagues' racist insinuations that somehow the people of Washington, D.C. are incapable or even unworthy of our democracy. One Senate Republican said that D.C. wouldn't be a 'well-rounded working class state.' I had no idea there were so many syllables in the word 'white.'"

"One of my House Republican colleagues said that D.C. shouldn't be a state because the district doesn't have a landfill. My goodness, with all the racist trash my colleagues have brought to this debate, I can see why they're worried about having a place to put it."
At this, Republican House members vocally erupted, demanding the Speaker Pro Tempore intervene.

"The truth is, there is no good faith argument for disenfranchising over 700 thousand people, Mr. Speaker. Most of whom are people of color."


-- Representative Mondaire Jones (D-NY)

Republicans like Louie Gohmert of Texas urged the Speaker to strike Jones' words from the record, to which Jones acquiesced before continuing:

"These desperate objections are about fear. Fear that in D.C., their white supremacist politics will no longer play. Fear that, soon enough, white supremacist politics won't work anywhere in America. Fear that if they don't rig our democracy, they will not win. Today, Democrats are standing up for a multiracial democracy. To democratize all 51 states in this country. I yield back."


https://secondnexus.com/mondaire-jones-dc-statehood-racist
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Republicans Go Berserk on House Floor after Rep. Calls out Their Racist Arguments on D.C. Statehood (Original Post) dogknob Apr 2021 OP
Hell Yes. sheshe2 Apr 2021 #1
Marvelous. stillcool Apr 2021 #2
Gloves Off! ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #3
What Did They Say During The Last Election??? COL Mustard Apr 2021 #72
I Use That Back At Them ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #73
Seems someone Dave in VA Apr 2021 #4
sell tickets! we can use the money ! monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #5
Aw, did their delicate fee fee's get hurt? MustLoveBeagles Apr 2021 #6
Awww, Such Sad Little Snowflakes! nt smb Apr 2021 #71
Make it uncomfortable as hell, make them own it. OnDoutside Apr 2021 #7
Screwy Louie pretending to be offended is gold. Grokenstein Apr 2021 #8
Gooey Louie demtenjeep Apr 2021 #14
Gohmert Pyle Major Nikon Apr 2021 #53
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼K&R👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Apr 2021 #9
A hit dog will holler. Qutzupalotl Apr 2021 #10
Thank you for quoting that correctly and using it in proper context. Caliman73 Apr 2021 #12
Washington DC... dogknob Apr 2021 #11
Pays more per adult person than any other state. Nt spooky3 Apr 2021 #16
So do literally dozens of other metropolitan areas. malthaussen Apr 2021 #23
Sorry. Fuck that! CrackityJones75 Apr 2021 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Apr 2021 #54
Maybe they should ck4829 Apr 2021 #56
DC isn't a city in the same way that Chicago and LA is kcr Apr 2021 #75
I suggest Maryland because Maryland is where they came from originally... malthaussen Apr 2021 #76
This is good info, thanks Clash City Rocker Apr 2021 #26
Those facts are a good argument for making New York City a separate state FakeNoose Apr 2021 #28
Don't do that. Without NYC, the rest of the state wnylib Apr 2021 #37
I applaud our representatives who are finally "taking the gloves off." alwaysinasnit Apr 2021 #13
Why did the GOP even bother to demand a procedural fig leaf to cover their shame? Marcuse Apr 2021 #15
That's it, in a nutshell bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #17
"I had no idea there were so many syllables in the word 'white.'" Hekate Apr 2021 #18
"So many syllables in the word 'white.'" soldierant Apr 2021 #47
Heh! Both Brilliant statements! electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #50
Their whole, "I'm offended" schtick isn't working as well anymore. Caliman73 Apr 2021 #19
Still working well enough for some die-hardship. How dare we! czarjak Apr 2021 #38
Anything works on the die-hard. Caliman73 Apr 2021 #63
Good Snackshack Apr 2021 #20
Speaking the truth! Yes! n/t KatK Apr 2021 #21
About time. Put their racism and oppression of others in their their faces, without sugarcoating or Jay25 Apr 2021 #22
Berserkers howl and berserkers wail. Tag 'em and bag 'em and throw 'em in jail. abqtommy Apr 2021 #24
I can't rec this enough. paleotn Apr 2021 #25
Recommended. panader0 Apr 2021 #27
With additional statehood(s),* they KNOW there will be from 2 to 6 Senate seats, BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #29
I am swooning over this remark: Politicub Apr 2021 #30
And "well-rounded working class"? PatSeg Apr 2021 #60
Maybe we can take up a collection for . . . Richard D Apr 2021 #31
Throw them a box of tissues. wnylib Apr 2021 #39
Rolls of cheap toilet paper . . . Richard D Apr 2021 #41
ok. wnylib Apr 2021 #43
Better still a roll of paper towels ; ) electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #51
My thanks to Congressman Mondaire Jones mountain grammy Apr 2021 #32
KNR niyad Apr 2021 #33
More! More!! MORE!!! n/t TygrBright Apr 2021 #35
Kudos Representative Mondaire Jones! CountMyVote4Reality Apr 2021 #36
Rep. Jones is my newly elected Congressman and he is already making me proud to have voted for him. NellieStarbuck Apr 2021 #40
I never heard of him before this & I'm already a fan Hekate Apr 2021 #48
Beautiful. Keep up the momentum! Doremus Apr 2021 #42
"These desperate objections are about fear. Fear that in D.C., their white supremacist politics will Martin68 Apr 2021 #44
Way to make the case! nt BootinUp Apr 2021 #45
It doesn't have a landfill rpannier Apr 2021 #46
I can't find a landfill in Scarsdale, NY either. Anybody know how they deal with trash in Scarsdale? jaxexpat Apr 2021 #55
They're throwing this one out now Best_man23 Apr 2021 #57
I heard DC doesn't have a professional croquet team rpannier Apr 2021 #61
Pow! Kudos Powerful Retort! electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #49
LOL.. Maagats so Cha Apr 2021 #52
Suck on THAT, Louie Gohmert. (nt) Paladin Apr 2021 #58
IN YOUR FACE! And f*#k your feelings. nt Hotler Apr 2021 #59
Is anyone surprised? ecstatic Apr 2021 #62
Whew. This guy is great moose65 Apr 2021 #64
"I think we should turn it back on them..." dogknob Apr 2021 #65
I had no idea there were so many syllables in the word 'white.' SpankMe Apr 2021 #66
They are racist...back in the day when a new state was added to the Union (the US), unfortunately, SWBTATTReg Apr 2021 #67
Yep! And.... moose65 Apr 2021 #68
The sickest thing is that they believe they're acting nobly and honorably n/t dogknob Apr 2021 #74
For years the Democrats The Wizard Apr 2021 #69
They can't handle the truth LW1977 Apr 2021 #70

ProfessorGAC

(65,035 posts)
3. Gloves Off!
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 07:01 PM
Apr 2021

They've been fighting bare knuckle for 45 years or more.
Time to start punching back.
They don't like getting a bloody nose? Too bad.
Don't want none, don't start none!

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
72. What Did They Say During The Last Election???
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 06:30 PM
Apr 2021

Give me a second, it'll come to me.

Oh yeah, they said "Fuck Your Feelings". Guess they don't like getting that back either!!!

Grokenstein

(5,723 posts)
8. Screwy Louie pretending to be offended is gold.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 07:06 PM
Apr 2021

Everybody knows what he is, and everyone knows that he's scared.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
12. Thank you for quoting that correctly and using it in proper context.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 07:31 PM
Apr 2021

I have seen too many stupid republicans try to use that phrase and mangling it.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
11. Washington DC...
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 07:24 PM
Apr 2021

1) Pays MORE in Federal Taxes than 21 states do.
2) Has budgets larger than 12 states.
3) Has a higher population than 2 states. Wyoming and Vermont.

malthaussen

(17,195 posts)
23. So do literally dozens of other metropolitan areas.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 08:21 PM
Apr 2021

Should they all be states? If your answer is that they are already parts of states, and have proper representation, then it is a more valid idea to make them part of Maryland and elect those Senators.
This argument for making DC a state is all about getting more (putative) Democratic senators into Congress. That's a worthy cause of itself. I am underwhelmed with the argument that this particular city should receive consideration that Chicago or Los Angeles does not.

-- Mal

Response to malthaussen (Reply #23)

kcr

(15,317 posts)
75. DC isn't a city in the same way that Chicago and LA is
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 01:28 AM
Apr 2021

Chicago and LA don't need consideration. They are cities within a state. They can't be moved around like chess pieces. Imagine talking about moving NYC to Connecticut. You are underwhelmed by the argument because you fail to understand it accurately. Why give DC to Maryland? Why shouldn't it go to Virginia? Or West Virginia? Or Pennsylvania? Or any other state? DC is its own entity. It doesn't belong to Maryland or Virginia or any other state any more than any other city could be moved.

malthaussen

(17,195 posts)
76. I suggest Maryland because Maryland is where they came from originally...
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 10:42 AM
Apr 2021

... back when they were a disease-ridden wasteland owned by George Washington, who was glad to get the land off his hands.

-- Mal

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
28. Those facts are a good argument for making New York City a separate state
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 08:43 PM
Apr 2021

But that's a fight for another day.

For now we need Washington DC to stand on its own two feet.


Marcuse

(7,480 posts)
15. Why did the GOP even bother to demand a procedural fig leaf to cover their shame?
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 07:32 PM
Apr 2021

They already say the quiet part out loud.

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
18. "I had no idea there were so many syllables in the word 'white.'"
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 07:53 PM
Apr 2021

“One of my House Republican colleagues said that D.C. shouldn't be a state because the district doesn't have a landfill. My goodness, with all the racist trash my colleagues have brought to this debate, I can see why they're worried about having a place to put it."

You go, Mondaire Jones!

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
19. Their whole, "I'm offended" schtick isn't working as well anymore.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 07:57 PM
Apr 2021

The newer crop of congress people are out of fucks to give about the "civility" BS that Republicans rely on to get away with their stupidity.

Good on congressman Jones!

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
63. Anything works on the die-hard.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:11 AM
Apr 2021

The ones who still thought that some magical superweapon was going to save the 3rd Reich, the ones who hid in the cave for 10 years waiting for orders. The ones who still think Trump will somehow get sworn in ... any day now.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
20. Good
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 07:59 PM
Apr 2021

Dems need to fight back just as hard against the GOP. Enough with the political decorum all too often that gets in the way of the truth of the matter.

Jay25

(417 posts)
22. About time. Put their racism and oppression of others in their their faces, without sugarcoating or
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 08:13 PM
Apr 2021

minimizing their true intentions.

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
25. I can't rec this enough.
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 08:28 PM
Apr 2021

Wow! Finally. Just lay it out. Don't hold back. Tell them what they REALLY are! Thank you, Rep Jones!

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
29. With additional statehood(s),* they KNOW there will be from 2 to 6 Senate seats,
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 08:50 PM
Apr 2021

and who knows how many in the House they will NEVER win. They're in the fight of their lives that many of them weren't sharp enough to see coming. With these new, hypothetical seats in play, they will be fighting uphill, for sure. I wouldn't say it's as dire as bringing a knife to a gunfight, but it would be like bringing a knife to a machete fight.



"statehoods is a pretty sketchy-sound word. Seems grammatically correct, though.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
30. I am swooning over this remark:
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 08:55 PM
Apr 2021
One Senate Republican said that D.C. wouldn't be a 'well-rounded working class state.' I had no idea there were so many syllables in the word 'white.'"


Damn!

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
60. And "well-rounded working class"?
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 09:22 AM
Apr 2021

Like Idaho perhaps? Apparently if a state is predominantly white, it is "well-rounded" or that Senate Republican doesn't know what well-rounded means.

Martin68

(22,800 posts)
44. "These desperate objections are about fear. Fear that in D.C., their white supremacist politics will
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 10:35 PM
Apr 2021

no longer play. Fear that, soon enough, white supremacist politics won't work anywhere in America. Fear that if they don't rig our democracy, they will not win. Today, Democrats are standing up for a multiracial democracy. To democratize all 51 states in this country. I yield back."

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
46. It doesn't have a landfill
Thu Apr 22, 2021, 11:39 PM
Apr 2021

That's got to rank near the top of the stupidest reasons given for opposing anything

jaxexpat

(6,828 posts)
55. I can't find a landfill in Scarsdale, NY either. Anybody know how they deal with trash in Scarsdale?
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 07:16 AM
Apr 2021

I'm getting the impression that rich people have means to prevent landfills conveniently operating in their neighborhoods. So where do they take it, the excess of the excessive? I'm sure they have to haul off the loose change from time to time, the 1's and 5's laying around accumulate and block access to the Bentley. Don't want to be accused of hoarding, do we? And everyone knows that fumes from burning money is hazardous. Though father usta' say, "you can always tell how well a house is doing by the numbers of dollar ashes in their summer firepits". And a few bundles of fifties do get a grand fireplace roaring in a trice, come's a cold winter morning. Better than balsa, some say. Had a neighbor who kept his in an oubliette built special for the purpose. He sent an accountant down on a rope to tidy up a bit and hadn't heard of him since. He'd say, "Can't trust those crafty bean counters, ya' know. I place my trust in the trash man." But even he didn't know where it was hauled to and when the trashman bid on a parcel in the neighborhood the joke was on him, wasn't it? Neighbors, some things never change.

Best_man23

(4,898 posts)
57. They're throwing this one out now
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 08:24 AM
Apr 2021

Because their previous argument "DC does not have any new car dealerships" was shown to be a lie (there is a Tesla dealer in City Center).

I'm sure the next one the Republicants will try will be: "DC can't be a state because it does not have a power plant or waste water treatment plant (fact, DC has both).

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
61. I heard DC doesn't have a professional croquet team
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 09:48 AM
Apr 2021

How can you be a state without a professional croquet team?

ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
62. Is anyone surprised?
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 10:00 AM
Apr 2021

Of course they're not going to support DC statehood! These are people who refuse to defend and protect the most basic rights of people of color in this country. The QOP now views themselves as being above the law. They don't believe they have to answer to anyone—not the courts, not Congress or anyone who they disagree with.

They're against the John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

They're even against the George Floyd Police Reform Act.

I don't know why those QOP reps wasted time objecting to Rep Jones' comments. They KNOW he's right. Who are they performing for, at this point? Donors?

moose65

(3,166 posts)
64. Whew. This guy is great
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:24 PM
Apr 2021

These Republicans are so inept. They can't even coalesce around a single bullshit "reason" that DC shouldn't be a state. That proves to me that there IS no valid reason. They can't base it on population since DC has more people than Wyoming and Vermont (and getting closer all the time to Alaska and North Dakota). DC isn't already part of a state, so we aren't breaking up any states.

I've also heard that the "Founders didn't intend for DC to be a state." There are a lot of things that the Founders didn't intend to happen - like the Air Force. We have changed in 245 years.

I think we should turn it back on them by saying something like "DC is about 37% white. Don't you care that you're disenfranchising your fellow white citizens??"

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
65. "I think we should turn it back on them..."
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:32 PM
Apr 2021

"...by saying something like 'DC is about 37% white. Don't you care that you're disenfranchising your fellow white citizens??'"

I really like that idea. Maybe that one can stay in the record.

SWBTATTReg

(22,124 posts)
67. They are racist...back in the day when a new state was added to the Union (the US), unfortunately,
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:20 PM
Apr 2021

compromises were made to bring in a southern state and a northern state, the criteria being that the southern state could have slavery vs. the northern state NOT. Disgusting. It's the same filthy argument to maintain control of the Senate and/or perhaps House majorities.

The republican Senators need to reread their history books and/or Constitution and the corresponding Amendments, but I'm sure that they won't listen to reason or rhyme.

If anything, perhaps we need to look at in extreme detail this situation that allows the manipulation of the Senate and / or House to maintain positions of power in this manner, Wash. DC and I suspect if Puerto Rico comes up for a statehood issue, the same racist logic would pertain too.

And by the way, sure Wash. D.C. may not have a landfill, but obviously, that trash is going somewhere. I don't know why this would be relevant in anyone's book but I'm not surprised. They are throwing out everything but the kitchen sink to stop this statehood push (about time don't you think?).

moose65

(3,166 posts)
68. Yep! And....
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:36 PM
Apr 2021

The biggest manipulation to affect the Senate happened during Benjamin Harrison's presidency in 1889. SIX states were added to the Union in less than a year:

North Dakota and South Dakota (which were deliberately split to make 2 states with 4 Republican Senators);
Washington and Montana (those 4 states were all admitted in about a week of time)

Idaho and Wyoming (admitted about a week apart in 1890.)

That fact is really amazing to me. Harrison was elected President in 1888 after losing the popular vote to Cleveland. To his credit, he DID try to pass some civil rights laws to help African-Americans. The Republicans still had a shred of their former idealism, 25 years after the Civil War. But the fact that a popular vote loser was still able to oversee the addition of SIX states is amazing to me.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
74. The sickest thing is that they believe they're acting nobly and honorably n/t
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 08:40 PM
Apr 2021
As Nixon‘s right hand man, John Ehrlichman, told reporter Dan Baum: “You want to know what this was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and Black people. Do you understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or Black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and Blacks with heroin and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.“


https://hartmannreport.com/p/why-the-reagan-revolution-scheme

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
69. For years the Democrats
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 04:18 PM
Apr 2021

have been wearing boxing gloves to a knife fight. It looks like they finally realized that reaching across the aisle results in pulling back a bloody stump. The gloves are off, and when the Republicans are down it is our patriotic and moral duty to put heels on their necks and rotate. Giving theses son of bitches the benefit of any doubt is flawed logic. They are neither gentlemen and gentlewomen, nor are they our friends. They are a fifth column aligned with the Third Reich.

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