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Demovictory9

(32,449 posts)
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 05:57 AM Apr 2021

'Intent on disrespect.' NC official ousted after refusing to use Black doctor's title

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article250836964.html




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‘IT’S DR. ROSARIO’
The incident occurred toward the end of a four-hour Zoning Commission meeting on Monday in which Rosario raised concerns about a development project a few hundred feet from her house.

Collins responded, saying the discussion had veered off course and referring to her as “Mrs. Rosario.”

“It’s Dr. Rosario, thank you, sir,” she said in response.

“If Mrs. Rosario has something,” Collins continued.

“Dr. Rosario.”

“Well, you know, I’m sorry,” he responded. “Your name says on here ‘Carrie Rosario.’ Hey Carrie.”

“It’s Dr. Rosario,” she said again. “I wouldn’t call you Tony, so please, sir, call me as I would like to be called.”

“It doesn’t really matter,” Collins replied.


“It matters to me. And out of respect, I would like you to call me by the name that I’m asking you to call me by.”

“Your screen says Carrie Rosario.”

“I’m verbalizing my name is Dr. Carrie Rosario,” she said. “And it really speaks very negatively of you as a commissioner to be disrespectful.”

Collins goes on to say he’s not trying to be disrespectful and tells Rosario she’s “negotiating something that happened four years ago.”


A clip of the exchange was played during Tuesday’s City Council meeting. Hightower, the City Council member, told other members Collins was using his “white privilege” by continuously refusing Rosario’s request, The Greensboro News & Record reported.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article250836964.html
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'Intent on disrespect.' NC official ousted after refusing to use Black doctor's title (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2021 OP
White privilege, also overt misogyny. I've worked with many many many doctoral level professionals. hlthe2b Apr 2021 #1
Yep malaise Apr 2021 #2
;-{) Goonch Apr 2021 #3
This was years ago, Summit, N.J. Woman drops car off for repair. Comes back after work. 3Hotdogs Apr 2021 #4
Woof. I took my car in for service once and hubby followed in his car to give me a ride to work. tanyev Apr 2021 #13
Well, how little are you? 3Hotdogs Apr 2021 #16
A teeny-tiny 5' 9" tanyev Apr 2021 #17
This has happened to my wife as well. hunter Apr 2021 #23
I was just so stunned. tanyev Apr 2021 #24
It must be hard for a Republican/Nazi like Collins to use the Dr. term for a POC, or a women. johnthewoodworker Apr 2021 #5
This is exactly the problem. People like him see POC and others as less than human, Ford_Prefect Apr 2021 #11
What an absolute jerk. niyad Apr 2021 #6
"Mrs." Obvious misogyny and racism Evergreen Emerald Apr 2021 #7
That smirk. Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #8
Racists think they are so clever. apnu Apr 2021 #9
Tucker Carlson has said that Jill Biden is not a doctor left-of-center2012 Apr 2021 #10
See? padah513 Apr 2021 #12
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. mn9driver Apr 2021 #14
Reminds me of Rev Jerry Falwell and Rev Jesse Jackson Sylvarose Apr 2021 #15
Interesting. thanks for post. riversedge Apr 2021 #20
racist piece of shit spanone Apr 2021 #18
Good grief. Collins just would not give in to her request. damn riversedge Apr 2021 #19
White supremacists have found new comfort and confidence.... RegularJam Apr 2021 #21
School boards, zoning boards, other local boards like this Mysterian Apr 2021 #22
It's also the misogyny. The racism is absolutely there too, but don't be fooled... Hekate Apr 2021 #25
Dr. Anita Hill, a professor, spoke at Judge Clarence Thomas's hearing. It infuriated me... Hekate Apr 2021 #26

hlthe2b

(102,230 posts)
1. White privilege, also overt misogyny. I've worked with many many many doctoral level professionals.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 06:05 AM
Apr 2021

And experienced male physicians or other doctoral-level senior employees referring to other MALE doctoral degree-holding professional employees as "Dr. ___" but ALWAYS referring to similarly trained women by their first name, even in professional meetings or conferences. This isn't a rare phenomenon. One such encounter led to some of the women trying to professionally correct him (and I'm told some of the male colleagues did so as well behind the scene, to no avail). The attitude by these cretins is to turn it into a "women are so sensitive" bullshit.

Only EEO lawsuits ultimately change some of this behavior until they die off, but even so, the women pay the price, career-wise. It is infuriating.

I'm glad this relic got the boot.

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
4. This was years ago, Summit, N.J. Woman drops car off for repair. Comes back after work.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 07:34 AM
Apr 2021

Sorry, we didn't get to your car. We had too many cars backed up today so we did mens cars so they could get to work.

She is/was a cardiologist working at the hospital one bloc away.

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
13. Woof. I took my car in for service once and hubby followed in his car to give me a ride to work.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 08:48 AM
Apr 2021

We both got out at the service area and after I told the service rep everything that needed to be done, he directed all of his responses to my husband. The phone call when it was ready was to my husband and I think the term "little lady" may have been used. Unbelievable.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
23. This has happened to my wife as well.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:51 AM
Apr 2021

She's always quick to say things like, "Hey! Why are you talking to him. It's MY car."






tanyev

(42,552 posts)
24. I was just so stunned.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 09:44 PM
Apr 2021

Even my husband at the time, who had some right wing jerk issues of his own, thought it was outrageous.

 

johnthewoodworker

(694 posts)
5. It must be hard for a Republican/Nazi like Collins to use the Dr. term for a POC, or a women.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 07:43 AM
Apr 2021

He'll have to head down to his local KKK meeting, church group, or Republican/Nazi party to deep think a plan.

Ford_Prefect

(7,892 posts)
11. This is exactly the problem. People like him see POC and others as less than human,
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 08:17 AM
Apr 2021

therefore any claim they may have to legitimate respect is requiring the Racist to acknowledge that he is NOT superior. That is categorically impossible for him to do since he is the arbiter of all he surveys. Therefore he is within his rights (so-called) to ignore such demands and any legal or moral "fiction" which says he should do otherwise.

This seems to be a throwback to the idea that a King or Bishop, who are both male, is closer to god than other men, and of course women, and is therefore right to treat them as lesser beings with slaves and convicts as the lowest of the moral scale. The notion is the underpinning of class structure in western history being verified by wealth or blood relations to the crown.

Since the zoning board member feels he is above mere citizens and above POC as well he has every need to put them and her down through patent disrespect. Sadly he is not the exception in NC government that he ought to be.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
10. Tucker Carlson has said that Jill Biden is not a doctor
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 07:58 AM
Apr 2021

He has said on his show that she is a doctor in the sense that Dr Pepper is a doctor or Dr Seuss is a doctor.

padah513

(2,502 posts)
12. See?
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 08:46 AM
Apr 2021

Now he'll run around calling it cancel culture, but it's not. That's the culture of consequences. Do stupid sh*t, and stupid sh*t is bound to happen to you, stupid!

Sylvarose

(210 posts)
15. Reminds me of Rev Jerry Falwell and Rev Jesse Jackson
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 09:07 AM
Apr 2021

Back when I was in high school I once caught an interview segment on some morning news show before school that had both Falwell and Jackson on to represent a different side of the issue. I can't remember what they were discussing but I remember the discussion because that's when I learned what a condescending, disrespectful, and racist person Falwell was underneath his "I'm just a man of God" veneer.

It was simple and clear to see if you just paid attention. During the interview, Jackson always addressed Falwell as "Reverend Fallwell." There was not one time he didn't use the honorific when addressing him. However Falwell? He always called Jackson "Jesse." Not once did he do the courtesy of addressing him as Reverend Jackson. He couldn't even call him Mr. Jackson.

I know folks might say Falwell was just trying to be informal and personable, but even at seventeen this white girl from a then lily-white town in IN knew what I was watching. It was a demonstration on Falwell's to undermine Jackson's legitimacy as not only another preacher but the idea that he was Falwell's equal and had any right to be engaged in this discussion with him.

It made me so angry. After that, I never paid attention to anything Falwell had to say on any topic in any interview.

 

RegularJam

(914 posts)
21. White supremacists have found new comfort and confidence....
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 10:19 AM
Apr 2021

over the last fifteen or so years. Not that they haven't always been able to find shelters of acceptance and comfort but it spilled over into the public sphere even more. From the rise of the Tea Party, to more bold actions and online assembly, to congresspersons and a President giving them comfort.

This is white supremacy on display.

Hekate

(90,646 posts)
25. It's also the misogyny. The racism is absolutely there too, but don't be fooled...
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:22 PM
Apr 2021

That is one misogynistic, as well as racist, fool.

I’ve been a County Commissioner, several times. Never for the prestigious ones where you actually get money instead of coffee, but the principle is the same: it is a political appointment, and while you actually have a term of however many years, you can be gone a whole lot sooner for behaving like an ass.

And that man is an ass.

Hekate

(90,646 posts)
26. Dr. Anita Hill, a professor, spoke at Judge Clarence Thomas's hearing. It infuriated me...
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:30 PM
Apr 2021

...that every Senator called him Judge Thomas, and called her Miss Hill. I yelled a lot at the tv — pissed this feminist all to hell.

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