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...and not one young man was shot (Original Post) Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 OP
Staged...this is fake. Fix The Stupid Apr 2021 #1
Somebody will say no weapon in their hands Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #4
Who has said that "only white people get arrested and not shot and killed" StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #6
lol..."gaslighting"... oh the irony. n/t Fix The Stupid Apr 2021 #8
I'm not trying to "prove" anything Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #10
Uh-huh StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #11
+1 It is about frequency, not one stop Bettie Apr 2021 #13
The testiness from that video Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #16
Lol...at this "study"... Fix The Stupid Apr 2021 #18
And look at the percentages of each race in the population Bettie Apr 2021 #20
But Chicago, for example, is going to have disparities when you take into account who is committing Ace Rothstein Apr 2021 #19
... StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #24
Where did I say that? Ace Rothstein Apr 2021 #25
That's a petulant response to one of the threads here lately uponit7771 Apr 2021 #22
Who has said that? Virtually nobody. -misanthroptimist Apr 2021 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Apr 2021 #2
Ummmm BGBD Apr 2021 #7
Still waiting: ret5hd Apr 2021 #3
I'm being stalked Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #5
You cited a paper, then derisively stated... ret5hd Apr 2021 #9
I went back Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #12
Several? Great! Links to all please. ret5hd Apr 2021 #14
This is the document I was reading Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #15
Well, that's hardly a "paper". A press release... ret5hd Apr 2021 #17
Still tying to make fetch happen, eh? LanternWaste Apr 2021 #21

Fix The Stupid

(939 posts)
1. Staged...this is fake.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:28 PM
Apr 2021


I read right here that only white people get arrested and not shot and killed.

I guess that's why the prisons are so empty...



(18,486 posts)
6. Who has said that "only white people get arrested and not shot and killed"
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:40 PM
Apr 2021

No one here, as far as I can tell, has ever said that white people never get killed or that no Black person is ever just arrested and or makes it out alive. The point is that Black people are DISPROPORTIONATELY killed more than white people and white people are FAR MORE LIKELY to not to be shot and killed. Showing a video in which cops actually seem to be behaving the way they're supposed to behave in this situation in no way proves that Black people are not generally subjected to harsher treatment by the police than white people are.

Sometimes men get raped, but pointing to an instance in which a man was raped as proof that women aren't far more likely to be raped than men and have much more reason to fear being raped in situations in which a man has no such fear would be stupid.

Just as stupid as the gaslighting argument being attempted here.

You might want to fix that while you're at it.


(15,634 posts)
13. +1 It is about frequency, not one stop
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:04 PM
Apr 2021

Black people more than three times as likely as white people to be killed during a police encounter

Black Americans are 3.23 times more likely than white Americans to be killed by police, according to a new study by researchers from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. The researchers examined 5,494 police-related deaths in the U.S. between 2013 and 2017. Rates of deadly police encounters were higher in the West and South than in the Midwest and Northeast, according to the study. Racial disparities in killings by police varied widely across the country, with some metropolitan areas showing very high differences between treatment by race. Black Chicagoans, for example, were found to be over 650% more likely to be killed by police than white Chicagoans.

The wide variance in deaths by police shows how preventable these deaths are, study authors Jaquelyn Jahn and Gabriel Schwartz, recent graduates from the Department of Social and Behavioral Sciences, told UPI in a June 24 article.

The study was published online June 24, 2020 in PLOS ONE.

Read UPI article: Study: Black Americans 3 times more likely to be killed by police

See coverage from Harvard FXB Center and Fox 32 Chicago

Yes, it's 2013-2017, but I doubt the incidence has trended toward equality in the last couple of years.

Fix The Stupid

(939 posts)
18. Lol...at this "study"...
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:20 PM
Apr 2021


"Of the included 5494 fatalities involving police from 2013–2017, 2353 (42.83%) of the decedents were White, 1487 (27.07%) were Black, 939 were Latinx (17.09%), and 168 (3.06%) were other race/ethnicities, while 547 lacked data on race/ethnicity"

42% of the people shot by cops in this "study" were white.
27% of the people shot by cops were black.

You can parse the rest all you want, use some math tricks to get to your intended conclusion, but that stat right there ends all debate.

Go ahead, write a wall of text, call me names, etc., but there it is....


(15,634 posts)
20. And look at the percentages of each race in the population
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:29 PM
Apr 2021

You know, never mind.

You will never, ever see it, because you choose not to.

Here is the data though: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219

76.3% of the US population is white.

13.4% African American

18.5% Hispanic/Latino

So, the vast majority of people are white, 42% of the people shot by cops were white.

Meanwhile, 27% of the people shot by cops were Black, but they make up 13.4% of the population.

I don't expect you to understand why this is problematic and I'm done replying to you.

Ace Rothstein

(3,000 posts)
19. But Chicago, for example, is going to have disparities when you take into account who is committing
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:22 PM
Apr 2021

Blacks commit somewhere around 70% of violent crimes in Chicago whereas Whites around 4%. So the police will have a lot more encounters with Black perpetrators than White perpetrators.

Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)


(20,099 posts)
9. You cited a paper, then derisively stated...
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:46 PM
Apr 2021

“Not that you’d read it”. ... but I did, and the paper said nothing that you claimed it did...so, I ask again, “still waiting” for you to show me where in the paper (which you so obviously read because it would be so ludicrous to think that you hadn’t read it after ridiculing someone else for not reading it) is the information you claimed.

As for stalking...well, it is obvious we both have interest in this subject, albeit from different perspective. I don’t think it is very suspicious that we end up in the same threads.



(3,496 posts)
12. I went back
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 12:58 PM
Apr 2021

You know you are right I was reading several articles on how traffic stops deter some violent crime.

I am looking for that one now.

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