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Johnny2X2X

(19,043 posts)
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 10:59 PM Apr 2021

Bill Maher New Rules tonight was amazing.

He’s been an idiot lately, but absolutely on point tonight about Biden and his age being a positive. Went off about how old people are wise and went off in ageism.

And he absolutely centered on how Biden is the right man for the job at the right time because of his age, it’s a strength and he’s trying to become the most transformative President since FDR.

He misses the mark too often lately with his white grievance BS, but this was a masterpiece.

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Bill Maher New Rules tonight was amazing. (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Apr 2021 OP
Here's the Biden New Rule TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #1
Thank you for posting the clip NT Rorey Apr 2021 #5
It's only because he's old. I remember clearly him making fun of Studs Terkel mucifer Apr 2021 #10
Agree. You beat me to it. I was about to say wnylib Apr 2021 #13
In all fairness to Bill I remember him making the same point a few years ago cinematicdiversions Apr 2021 #30
Fascism was missing - they tried that too malaise Apr 2021 #21
I can't believe I'm agreeing with this. nolabear Apr 2021 #2
Same here PatSeg Apr 2021 #29
"The problem isn't that I don't get what you're saying or that I'm old, the problem is that betsuni Apr 2021 #3
Tonight was his best show in a long time. mnhtnbb Apr 2021 #4
Yes, I had no idea how funny Fran Lebowitz was. I had never heard her speak before. SunSeeker Apr 2021 #28
I'm old, but really don't mind young people thinking their ideas are better. Hoyt Apr 2021 #6
Concur On All Points ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #34
Thanks for the tip Blecht Apr 2021 #7
Even a broken watch is right twice a day Generic Brad Apr 2021 #8
+1, .... and Trump is uponit7771 Apr 2021 #20
People who can't use iphones vs. those who can't stop using them. DFW Apr 2021 #9
I have a rule about photos on vacations Rorey Apr 2021 #11
Silly logic IMO! Nt USALiberal Apr 2021 #23
Noted Rorey Apr 2021 #24
I have exactly the same rule. cinematicdiversions Apr 2021 #31
I am definitely not a photographer Rorey Apr 2021 #33
Yep. The same goes for sporting events. GoCubsGo Apr 2021 #12
I've had to deal with ageism my whole life Laha Apr 2021 #14
I'm sorry you're having to endure that Rorey Apr 2021 #25
Sorry, what Bill said was pretty worthless and silly.... Jon King Apr 2021 #15
Last week Maher suggested if people weren't fat they wouldn't die of covid. SunSeeker Apr 2021 #16
Yeah, about that "if people weren't fat they wouldn't die of covid"... Yavin4 Apr 2021 #22
Exactly.. It is one of the dumbest things he says, and he keeps saying it. nt SunSeeker Apr 2021 #27
Well, their population is 4 times ours. Yet less than 200K have died. Just saying. Hoyt Apr 2021 #35
India is lead by a right wing nut job. Don't trust their reported data. Yavin4 Apr 2021 #36
Yeah, that one nearly made me swear off him for good. nolabear Apr 2021 #32
I agree and here's tonight's video: Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #17
It was a return to form for him. gldstwmn Apr 2021 #18
Cool but I won't watch him anymore. budkin Apr 2021 #19
Bill Maher is a mixed bag ChrisF1961 Apr 2021 #26

mucifer

(23,531 posts)
10. It's only because he's old. I remember clearly him making fun of Studs Terkel
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:42 PM
Apr 2021

for being old. Bill was so rude to him being old and hard of hearing.

I guess he's grown up a bit. But, I'm thinking it's ONLY because he personally is feeling the agism.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
13. Agree. You beat me to it. I was about to say
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 12:37 AM
Apr 2021

that something must have made Maher feel his age lately because I've often thought that he tries to act younger than he is. Nothing wrong with older people feeling genuinely youthful, as long as it's not a forced effort to "fit in."

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
30. In all fairness to Bill I remember him making the same point a few years ago
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 12:28 PM
Apr 2021

In reference to California Governor Jerry Brown and how he is not considered Presidential material simply due to ageism.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
2. I can't believe I'm agreeing with this.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:08 PM
Apr 2021

He makes me nuts but I wanted to watch because of Fran Leibovitz and April Ryan, and I actually enjoyed it.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
29. Same here
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 11:55 AM
Apr 2021

I really was totally fed up with him, especially after Biden was elected President and Maher kept throwing out sarcastic remarks about his age and competence. I don't know who in his mind he thought would have been a better choice, but obviously Biden was not his first, second, or third choice. Meanwhile, Biden was blowing everyone away with his progressive and well thought out agenda. I kept watching Maher's show so I could see the point where he finally acknowledged what we all were seeing.

Last night, he finally did it! I smiled during the whole segment about Biden and age, frequently talking to the television.

betsuni

(25,472 posts)
3. "The problem isn't that I don't get what you're saying or that I'm old, the problem is that
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:12 PM
Apr 2021

your ideas are stupid." Experience as resource, accumulated knowledge, not assumption that "fresh faces" or "new blood" are somehow always better.

Great show!

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
28. Yes, I had no idea how funny Fran Lebowitz was. I had never heard her speak before.
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 11:55 AM
Apr 2021

Bill tries to complement her by saying she is so quick with her wit that she turns whoever she's talking to into a straight man. Without skipping a beat, she says, "Well, you ARE very straight."

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. I'm old, but really don't mind young people thinking their ideas are better.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:19 PM
Apr 2021

Last edited Sat Apr 24, 2021, 04:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Well, unless they are young Republicans, Proud Boys, etc. I do think Biden’s wisdom is essential right now.

Still a Maher fan.

ProfessorGAC

(64,999 posts)
34. Concur On All Points
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 04:32 PM
Apr 2021

I had people much younger than me as direct reports. I always wanted their ideas.
Admittedly, I was in a field where some things are simply not a matter of opinion.
The chemistry doesn't change because we'd like it to.
But, young people selling change to other young people.
Why wouldn't I listen?

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
7. Thanks for the tip
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:20 PM
Apr 2021

I've been watching less and less of him -- I basically start skipping ahead when he starts whining -- stop and check -- skip some more -- repeat. It took me 8 minutes to watch all of last week's show.

I'll be sure to catch tonight's episode.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
8. Even a broken watch is right twice a day
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:23 PM
Apr 2021

That is why I still watch him. When he’s good, he’s very, very good even though when he’s bad, he’s awful.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
9. People who can't use iphones vs. those who can't stop using them.
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:32 PM
Apr 2021

One of the best observations ever. Before Covid-19, I was always dumbstruck at the hoards of tourists in the streets of cities like Paris and Barcelona who weren't gazing at their surroundings, but into their iPhones for the right moment to take a picture of their surroundings. I felt like screaming, "if that's all you're going to do here, buy a book from National Geographic and stay home!"

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
11. I have a rule about photos on vacations
Fri Apr 23, 2021, 11:46 PM
Apr 2021

If nobody I know is going to be in the photo, I'm not taking the shot. As you said, buy a book. Those professionals who took the photos in the books take way better photos than I can take, especially with my phone.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
31. I have exactly the same rule.
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 12:30 PM
Apr 2021

At least it is better nowadays when you don't have to spend actual money to get an out of focus of some random fresco developed.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
12. Yep. The same goes for sporting events.
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 12:07 AM
Apr 2021

Back when they weren't limiting fans, I would see people in the front rows at sporting events staring into their damn phones, instead of watching the game. You pay hundreds of dollars for a seat on the glass at a hockey game, but you watch your phone instead? I don't get it.

Laha

(407 posts)
14. I've had to deal with ageism my whole life
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 12:44 AM
Apr 2021

Only it's the opposite way around - I look bizarrely young.

People always tell me it's a great thing and I should just enjoy it, but..

I think there's some sort of law that bans that kind of discrimination here now, but twenty years ago I was denied the chance to pursue the career I went to school for. More than once after nailing interviews I was told right to my face they were going with the other candidate simply because I looked too young.

I'm glad people are actually recognizing that it is a problem. I still have difficulty sometimes getting people to take me seriously. And then they realize I'm more than ten to twenty years older than them.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
25. I'm sorry you're having to endure that
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 09:07 AM
Apr 2021

I used to have that problem too.

There were times I was treated with disrespect because it was assumed I was way younger than I was. I remember a time I had to go talk to authorities at my oldest son's school. He was probably 15 at the time. I thought the person we were in a meeting with was incredibly rude. She finally asked, "Who are you?" I replied, "I'm his mother!" She replied that she thought I was my son's sister. It didn't excuse the way she acted.

Another time I was at work. The owner of the company, who I had never seen before because he lived in another state, popped in one day. He was speaking to me in a somewhat condescending tone. Later we were talking about something or other, and the topic of my kids came up. He said, "You have kids? How old are you???" I was in my late 30s at the time.

I hope that in both of these instances the rude people realized that it's never good to make assumptions about someone, and, more importantly, everyone should be treated with respect.

Now I feel that I look much closer to my age, but I do have great skin, thanks to a lifetime of sun-shunning and genetics. My daughters-in-law tell me every once in awhile that I look way younger than I am. I really don't believe that anymore, but I also am really not very concerned. I'm more comfortable about myself than I've ever been in my life.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
15. Sorry, what Bill said was pretty worthless and silly....
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 12:48 AM
Apr 2021

The only truth is that Biden's unique experience and age made him the right person at the right time. But the rest was drivel. Old guys run every Fortune 500 company, every company board is all old people, the Senate is mostly all old people, all sports teams are mostly owned by old people, and on and on. The old pretty much hold all the power.

The stupid bashing young people using cell phones or watching video games is the same 'get off my lawn' nonsense. Every single generation had a version of it.....no one walks anymore when cars came out, no one washes clothes by hand, that Rolling Stones music is bad, etc. And the stuff about 33% want no police....what percentage of older liberals feel the same so we can compare??

Guess will just disagree on this, besides the fact Biden was the perfect person for the Presidency at this time, the rest made no sense at all.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
16. Last week Maher suggested if people weren't fat they wouldn't die of covid.
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 12:56 AM
Apr 2021

Glad to hear he had a lucid night.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
22. Yeah, about that "if people weren't fat they wouldn't die of covid"...
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 07:48 AM
Apr 2021

I don't think that India has that many obese people.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
36. India is lead by a right wing nut job. Don't trust their reported data.
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 05:49 PM
Apr 2021
Bodies piling up at crematoriums and burial grounds across India are sparking concerns that the death toll from a ferocious new Covid-19 wave may be much higher than official records, underplaying the scale of a resurgence that is overwhelming the country’s medical system.

Several cities across the South Asian nation have reported shocking details of bodies, wrapped in protective gear and identified by hospitals as virus-related deaths, lined up outside crematoriums for hours. Accounts collated by Bloomberg from relatives of the dead and workers and eyewitnesses at crematoriums in at least five cities indicate that the real number of Covid fatalities could be significantly higher than the deaths being reported by local government health departments.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-22/even-record-death-toll-may-hide-extent-of-india-s-covid-crisis

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
32. Yeah, that one nearly made me swear off him for good.
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 02:05 PM
Apr 2021

He's a total asshole about many things but fat shaming (yeah, I'm in the category in spite of lifelong attempts to starve and a medical condition that makes it very VERY difficult) has pretty much ended my tenuous love affair with Maher. But I like Fran Leibowitz and April Ryan so I watched. It was a smart choice on his part. And he'd have to do more than I think he's capable of to make me do more than barely tolerate him again.

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