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Chauvin should be tried for this crime also
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ABC News reports that when prosecutors were preparing for the case that would bring Chauvin to justice, they received several videos of the incident with the Black teen and said they were shocked by what they saw. Of course, this evidence wasnt allowed at trial because the defense successfully argued that jurors should be barred from hearing about Chauvins history of neck and body restraints on suspects. (Which is wild considering the fact that defense attorneys also argued that Floyds past arrests should be admissible and some of that evidence was allowed in.)
From ABC:
The videos, from Sept. 4, 2017, allegedly showed Chauvin striking a Black teenager in the head so hard that the boy needed stitches, then allegedly holding the boy down with his knee for nearly 17 minutes, and allegedly ignoring complaints from the boy that he couldnt breathe.
Those videos show a far more violent and forceful treatment of this child than Chauvin describes in his report [of the incident], Matthew Frank, one of the state prosecutors, wrote in a court filing at the time.
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)May he never walk the streets a free man again...
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,130 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)grumpyduck
(6,232 posts)Just go for it.
Cha
(297,154 posts)back then.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)So if the 2017 incident had been handled properly, George Floyd could still be alive?
whopis01
(3,510 posts)Derek Chauvin killed George Floyd but he did not do it alone.
Everyone who condoned Chauvins past behavior and allowed him to continue to operate as a law enforcement officer had a hand in George Floyds death.
If something had been done about Chauvin earlier, George Floyd would be alive and Derek Chauvin might not be about to spend decades in prison. If he had be fired, or punished early on his actions may not have escalated to the point of killing someone. I have no sympathy for Chauvin, and in no way mean to absolve him of any blame, but I do recognize that he could have been saved from his own behavior if people did their job.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)This is why police reform is so damned important...so many people in the past years could have been saved... and like you even said...even police could be saved from their own behaviors.
it's a sad situation all around
WA-03 Democrat
(3,046 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)And still had his job.
fuck trumpettes
(4 posts)We all knew if you watched Derick C's history that he had almost 20 complaints of cruelty in his previous 19+ years in Minnesota if you watched HLN network. I know the judge refused to allow more that three or four to be admissible ( I don't recall the Prosecution using any but they didn't need them.) In June last year the WP (washinton post) said the George Floyd and Derrick Chauvin both had security jobs at the same place at the same time (although possibly different shifts and there was some possibility they knew each other). I heard none of it at the trial and wonder if anyone else has heard of an update on it. The D C (unhuman) should get 40 years (I personally think he should get the full 75 years), when the Prosecution meets in about 7 weeks to sentence him with aggravating circumstances. Personally also I want him to be put in prison with the rest of the prisoners, we'll see if his white supremist convicts can keep him alive. Either way he can be made to suffer a lot.
plimsoll
(1,668 posts)When I read this I think about severe asthma attacks and the sense of fear and panic they cause. I hear waterboarding is intended to induce that fear of drowning not being able to breath.
This was torture. Cruel and unusual. That he had a history of this and was made a training officer shows a systemic disregard in the Minneapolis police department for the population. I say it that way because it is now and has been for ages focused on blacks, but like Nazi Germany, the did not stop with the Jews. Everyone they felt "inferior" was a target.
Standup now, or it will be your white kid being torture because they don't like his haircut.
bluestarone
(16,906 posts)Whoever DID NOT charge him back in 2017!
Sgent
(5,857 posts)if they prosecute him under the civil rights code. The MN sentencing guidelines only call for 12.5yr (although the judge can deviate), so I hope they do go after him for this.
Dreampuff
(778 posts)If you read his wiki page, it also explains about all his tax issues. Then you consider the other 17 or 18 previous complaints and the fact that he was a Minnesota resident and claimed the homestead exemption on his condo in Windermere, Florida, he has quite a history. It just made me so sad how they talked about the victim and yet, all of his nasty things didn't count. It was the same way in the Trayvon Martin trial.
Rhiannon12866
(205,207 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)it would have given prosecutors the opportunity to bring it up.