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GPV

(72,377 posts)
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 08:58 PM Apr 2021

Watching poor hubby get bowled over by Moderna shot #2, do you think boosters will be as bad?


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Watching poor hubby get bowled over by Moderna shot #2, do you think boosters will be as bad? (Original Post) GPV Apr 2021 OP
'The boosters' may be significantly different to keep up with the latest varients empedocles Apr 2021 #1
each of us is a unique collection of genes - so no way to predict. NewHendoLib Apr 2021 #2
Hard To Say ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #3
That's a great question. Laffy Kat Apr 2021 #4
The worrisome ingredient seems to be the adjuvant PEG womanofthehills Apr 2021 #5
I think that was a worry early on, not sure if it has really borne out LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #19
PEG is the lipid that surrounds the mRNA & an adjuvant womanofthehills Apr 2021 #22
Technically it's not clear the PEG is an adjuvant, rather the lipid is LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #23
I'm not sure. :( How long after his shot before he started having side effects? helpisontheway Apr 2021 #6
That first evening he got a headache, body aches, fatigue, and shaking chills. Continued GPV Apr 2021 #8
:( Hope he feels better soon. My son just told me that body aches helpisontheway Apr 2021 #14
Hope he's on the mend GPV Apr 2021 #15
Moderna #2 really did a number on me Jose Garcia Apr 2021 #7
Day 3, still not feeling great. GPV Apr 2021 #16
A nap in the afternoon the day after my 2nd shot took care of the side effects. Kaleva Apr 2021 #9
I don't care. Watching people get bowled over by Covid, I'll take the booster. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2021 #10
I also felt pretty rotten after Moderna shot #2 Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #11
Yeah, shot 2 is apparently usually the worse of the two. Glad it only got you for one day GPV Apr 2021 #17
Just like everything it's going to vary from person to person cherish44 Apr 2021 #12
Second Moderna yesterday morning. Last night sucked pretty hard. Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #13
I'm so sorry. Hope it's fading now GPV Apr 2021 #18
Thanks! It is. I went out and did yard work today, so back Wingus Dingus Apr 2021 #21
I had Covid and had almost no issues with the second Moderna shot. Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #20
I felt pretty crappy after the 2nd Pfizer shot LymphocyteLover Apr 2021 #24
I hope not. But if they are, then they are. Iggo Apr 2021 #25

NewHendoLib

(60,014 posts)
2. each of us is a unique collection of genes - so no way to predict.
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 09:21 PM
Apr 2021

My first moderna hit me a bit the second day (took a 2 hour mid afternoon nap - just felt off) - second shot didn't have any impact at all.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
3. Hard To Say
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 09:23 PM
Apr 2021

My wife got Pfizer. Essentially no side effect, either dose.
I got Moderna. Zero on #1, a 14 hour fever & done day after #2.
Your spouse got hammered by it.
It's anybody's guess how any one person will respond.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
4. That's a great question.
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 10:58 PM
Apr 2021

And irrelevant to me because I'll have it regardless. The second Moderna kicked my butt. I hope hubby feels better soon.

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
5. The worrisome ingredient seems to be the adjuvant PEG
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 11:19 PM
Apr 2021

People who have antibodies to PEG seem to be at higher risk for anaphylaxis. The more you get injected with PEG, the higher your antibody level might become. VAERS has reported thousands of anaphylactic reactions.

LymphocyteLover

(5,644 posts)
19. I think that was a worry early on, not sure if it has really borne out
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 07:37 PM
Apr 2021

Also I don't think PEG is an adjuvant per se

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
22. PEG is the lipid that surrounds the mRNA & an adjuvant
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 10:26 PM
Apr 2021
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/suspicions-grow-nano...
Dec 21, 2020 · The two vaccines both contain mRNA wrapped in lipid nanoparticles (LNPs) that help carry it to human cells but also act as an adjuvant, a vaccine ingredient that bolsters the immune response.

Anaphylactic shock is still a big problem if you look at the VAERS reports - like a 40,000 cases problem from mild to severe.

LymphocyteLover

(5,644 posts)
23. Technically it's not clear the PEG is an adjuvant, rather the lipid is
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 11:20 PM
Apr 2021

PEG is added for stability.

Anyway, the article is from Dec 2020 and I don't think the anaphylaxis issue has been as significant problem as they worried it would be. At least it really hasn't been in the news since then.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/suspicions-grow-nanoparticles-pfizer-s-covid-19-vaccine-trigger-rare-allergic-reactions


helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
6. I'm not sure. :( How long after his shot before he started having side effects?
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 11:27 PM
Apr 2021

My son had Moderna #2 about 13 hrs ago. So far no symptoms. Hope your hubby feels better soon.

GPV

(72,377 posts)
8. That first evening he got a headache, body aches, fatigue, and shaking chills. Continued
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 06:22 AM
Apr 2021

on yesterday, though Aleve helped some. We went out as planned, but he was dragging all day.

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
14. :( Hope he feels better soon. My son just told me that body aches
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 09:30 AM
Apr 2021

and chills started last night right before bed. He said he thinks it might be over. He said he is gonna rest and drink fluids.

Jose Garcia

(2,595 posts)
7. Moderna #2 really did a number on me
Sat Apr 24, 2021, 11:32 PM
Apr 2021

Totally worth it, as having flu-like symptoms for 24 hours is better that actually having COVID. If the booster's effects are similar so be it.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
10. I don't care. Watching people get bowled over by Covid, I'll take the booster.
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 07:53 AM
Apr 2021

Every year, every six months, whatever's necessary. Mrs Bozo was hit pretty hard with Moderna #2, but only for a few days. Now, she's invincible!

We'll get the boosters, whenever.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
11. I also felt pretty rotten after Moderna shot #2
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 08:25 AM
Apr 2021

I had terrible chills that night and the next day and when I woke up I felt so woozy that I didn't want to stand up. With shot #1 all I had was a slightly sore arm. But it was pretty much over by the next day and the rotten way I felt was certainly moderated by the tremendous relief I felt at finally being able to get the vaccine. I'm grateful for that every day, sure helped dissipate the fear that we've been living with for over a year, not that I'm changing my behavior, but that fear has been replaced with gratitude.

cherish44

(2,566 posts)
12. Just like everything it's going to vary from person to person
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 08:41 AM
Apr 2021

But I'm told that feeling crappy after the 2nd shot means it's working. So there you go.

I got #2 Moderna at the end of February felt lousy for a couple days but then was fine.

The COVID cases at my school have dropped considerably since the vaccines rolled out.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
13. Second Moderna yesterday morning. Last night sucked pretty hard.
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 09:29 AM
Apr 2021

Fever, chills, body aches, headache--lay on the couch under a blanket while my husband watched TV, drifted in and out of consciousness. I tried to tough it out but ended up taking two Tylenol right before bed so I could sleep. Still have a bit of fever this morning. On the plus side, my shot arm isn't as sore this time around. Booster shots, that will be interesting to see how it affects people. Not really looking forward to them after last night tho.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
20. I had Covid and had almost no issues with the second Moderna shot.
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 07:51 PM
Apr 2021

I had felt unwell the morning of the shot upset stomach...really felt crappy. But I was not missing this shot so I took it anyway. I had no pain in my arm at all. About 4:00 the next morning, I woke up with a headache and was dizzy and nauseous. But, I had felt sick before I got the shot. I went back to bed and woke up about 10:00 and felt fine. My sister felt miserable for a few days. I wonder if the antibodies I already had from having Covid made my reaction mild.

LymphocyteLover

(5,644 posts)
24. I felt pretty crappy after the 2nd Pfizer shot
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 11:22 PM
Apr 2021

the worst was over in a day but I haven't felt top notch in the week since I got it.

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