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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 04:58 PM Apr 2021

Florida family may spend life in prison after 'church' sold bleach as cure for COVID-19

A federal grand jury brought charges against members of a Bradenton family nearly a year after they were arrested for selling bleach that they claimed to be a cure for the COVID-19 virus.
Mark Grenon and his three sons — Jonathan, Jordan and Joseph — face several charges for peddling their “Miracle Mineral Solution” to customers even after the Food and Drug Administration refuted those claims and a court ordered the family to halt sales of the chemicals.

Federal agents raided their home and found loaded guns, nearly 10,000 pounds of sodium chlorite powder and thousands of bottles of MMS. Court records show that the Grenons made more than $1 million selling MMS. On top of marketing it as a cure for COVID-19, the Grenons allegedly pitched the deadly concoction as a cure-all that could remedy a host of medical conditions, such as cancer, Alzheimer’s disease and HIV.

The Grenons sold MMS under their “non-religious” Genesis Church of Health and Healing in an effort to bypass government regulation. The FDA has not approved MMS for any sort of medical treatment and advises against drinking it under any circumstance. The sodium chlorite becomes an industrial bleach when it is mixed with water or ingested. Drinking MMS is the same as drinking an industrial bleach that is used to bleach textiles and paper, the FDA warned. Side effects of drinking bleach include severe vomiting, diarrhea and extremely low blood pressure.

In April 2020, Grenon claimed he wrote President Trump touting MMS as a treatment for COVID-19. It was just days before the president made controversial remarks about the possibility of injecting disinfectant into COVID-19 patients.

https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2021/04/florida-family-may-spend-life-in-prison-after-church-sold-bleach-as-cure-for-covid-19.html

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Florida family may spend life in prison after 'church' sold bleach as cure for COVID-19 (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Apr 2021 OP
Life in prison sounds about right gratuitous Apr 2021 #1
"Shooting yourself in the head is another sure-fire cure for COVID!" struggle4progress Apr 2021 #2
You can't make this shit up dianaredwing Apr 2021 #19
Drink enough of it & all your troubles will be over... Hekate Apr 2021 #3
How in the hell is it they aren"t being charged with manslaughter? sueh Apr 2021 #4
I thought of that too. No answer. Maraya1969 Apr 2021 #32
Hopefully JI7 Apr 2021 #5
What, no son named Jehoshaphat? tanyev Apr 2021 #6
.... BigmanPigman Apr 2021 #7
Judas if you pay him 30 pieced if silver multigraincracker Apr 2021 #8
He jumped that crazy train! skamaria Apr 2021 #31
Life in prison... IrishAfricanAmerican Apr 2021 #9
Once again, the Trump base reveals its diminished mentality Firestorm49 Apr 2021 #10
Gee... ya think Trump might have been full of shit there? Initech Apr 2021 #11
Well, their mistake was - packman Apr 2021 #12
Sounds like we know where Trump got his idea from. Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #13
This was known back then. Covered thoroughly here on DU. Sure took the Feds a long time. niyad Apr 2021 #21
I missed it. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #25
So much to try to keep track of during the murdering orange traitor's reign of terror. niyad Apr 2021 #28
still too good for these abominable shitheads - all proceeds/holdings attached for restitution bringthePaine Apr 2021 #14
make them drink it ! might change their tune ! monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #15
Assholes like him were why we got the FDA Warpy Apr 2021 #16
Bleach makes a great prison cell disinfectant Blue Owl Apr 2021 #17
I don't know what's more disturbing... ShazzieB Apr 2021 #18
A year seems too long to allow a death dealing racket to go on; not expeditious justice; not cool. ancianita Apr 2021 #20
I agree. One of the most frustrating aspects of our Justice System msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #26
Perhaps a framework for expeditious processing can be set into an upcoming judiciary reform. ancianita Apr 2021 #34
one would think so. msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #35
right? ancianita Apr 2021 #39
Again, I agree. msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #40
One thing judicial reform absolutely must do. ancianita Apr 2021 #41
hmm. Good point. Wonder how it's generally funded by congress.... msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #42
It's under discretionary spending? Here's something from the ABA ancianita Apr 2021 #43
geeze. I don't think I can handle anymore knowledge of destruction by these treasonous bastards msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #44
You're not alone. The only hope I have ancianita Apr 2021 #45
I'm surprised Trump hasn't already sued them for a cut of their profits Mr. Ected Apr 2021 #22
They were arrested nearly a year ago csziggy Apr 2021 #29
EXTREMELY low blood pressure. Sing along with Randy: catrose Apr 2021 #23
Fun to watch now, forgotten all about this one, he's so freaking brilliant, talented and funny. msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #36
Here they are MagickMuffin Apr 2021 #24
are these twins ? msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #37
Danger to society orangecrush Apr 2021 #27
Bleach a versary was a couple days ago. sarcasmo Apr 2021 #30
It looks like they were the ones who gave trump the idea. Maraya1969 Apr 2021 #33
That sh*t eating grin of the father will be gone Rustyeye77 Apr 2021 #38

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Life in prison sounds about right
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 05:02 PM
Apr 2021

Take all their assets and divide it among the survivors of their victims. These people need to die alone and penniless.

sueh

(1,826 posts)
4. How in the hell is it they aren"t being charged with manslaughter?
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 05:13 PM
Apr 2021

7 people died from drinking this! But again, tRumpers should know better.

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
10. Once again, the Trump base reveals its diminished mentality
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 05:57 PM
Apr 2021

Three cheers to Hillary! Deplorables? Yes!
Dumber than a can of grey paint? Well, I guess so.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
12. Well, their mistake was -
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 06:15 PM
Apr 2021

Not selling that light up your ass (or down one's throat) to purge that Covid out of your system.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
13. Sounds like we know where Trump got his idea from.
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 06:19 PM
Apr 2021
In April 2020, Grenon claimed he wrote to the president touting MMS as a treatment for COVID-19. It was just days before the president made controversial remarks about the possibility of injecting disinfectant into COVID-19 patients.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
16. Assholes like him were why we got the FDA
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 06:48 PM
Apr 2021

Traveling snake oil salesman would pull into town, put on a show, issue a bunch of bible quotes, sell loads of their product, and haul ass out of town before people started dropping dead.

They tacked the "F" onto it because Upton Sinclair told people some of what was in their breakfast sausages.

Libertarians/GOPers want to get rid of that agency more than any other, "Oh, if the medicine is no good you can sue."

Right, from the grave?

And they wonder why we think they're dumb.

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
18. I don't know what's more disturbing...
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 06:57 PM
Apr 2021

The fact that the Grenons were horrible enough to promote and sell this poison to unsuspecting people,

or

The fact that multiple people were stupid enough to fall for the scam, much less actually ingest this crap.

Both of these things are hideously awful and horrifying in completely different yet strangely interdependent ways. We live in a scary world.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
20. A year seems too long to allow a death dealing racket to go on; not expeditious justice; not cool.
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 07:13 PM
Apr 2021

Just my layman's opinion.

I live in Bradenton, never read or heard about this weirdness that was so crazy it even got noted on Rachel's show. I feel sorry that religious types got duped and hurt over this, though.

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
26. I agree. One of the most frustrating aspects of our Justice System
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 07:37 PM
Apr 2021



A year seems too long to allow a death dealing racket to go on; not expeditious justice; not cool.


People who are obviously doing harm to others, profiting from it at that, and still allowed to continue to do harm while the justice system sorts itself out on what to do about it.

effin hell, that has to change. it's been going forever. I don't get it.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
34. Perhaps a framework for expeditious processing can be set into an upcoming judiciary reform.
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 11:23 PM
Apr 2021

When we're talking about a deadly racket (and so many are) there must be a faster way for grand juries and courts to convene those cases.

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
35. one would think so.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 08:10 AM
Apr 2021

It's a mystery (to me) why the obvious isn't an established matter of procedure. Surely, there must be a faster way to expedite judicial processes for these criminals that pose dangerous consequences to national security economically or otherwise.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
39. right?
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 08:46 AM
Apr 2021

I can't help but think this slow roll issue of the justice process is a matter of political will.

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
40. Again, I agree.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 09:00 AM
Apr 2021

I think we've witnessed evidence of that time and time again over the course of our lifetime. However, it's never been more urgent than now to scrap that old play book and set about to expedite these matters.

Easier said.... especially when too many of the old guard, or others in the ranks that might have conflicting interests one could say.

So. the status quo is still in play.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
41. One thing judicial reform absolutely must do.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 09:16 AM
Apr 2021

Judicial reform must permanently increase base funding for the federal judicial system.
The federal system definitely needs more money to operate. More money and manpower.

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
44. geeze. I don't think I can handle anymore knowledge of destruction by these treasonous bastards
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 10:23 PM
Apr 2021

I made the mistake of turning on Rachael tonight. Qanon is doing an audit of the ballots, ignoring the court's disclosure orders. and they're getting away with it. How in the hell do we fight on all fronts as citizens without having to be "storming" the capitol ourselves?
I'm feeling really powerless. Use to say, knowledge is power. Not I'm saying not so much.

sorry, the news has got me down. really really down.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
45. You're not alone. The only hope I have
Tue Apr 27, 2021, 06:09 PM
Apr 2021

is that 81 million will keep turnout out as in 2020, and we can eventually get this nation's branches of governance stabilized enough that the bad side of big corps gives up the idea that they don't care what kind of government they do business alongside.

I have other ideas about federal judicial reform:

Federal judicial reform MUST also contain, top to bottom, real, operational court ruling enforcement. This must be the #1 goal of reform. Unenforced laws are no laws at all.
— new, named enforcement agents to bring ordered persons to appear before federal courts, along with
— immediate fines per day for the ignoring any and all court subpoenas, contempt of court rulings, and
— laws that make those who threaten federal judges in any way subject to immediate arrest and due process hearings.

Judicial reform must
— ban all dark docket cases in the service of national transparency,
— require courts to make rulings within 30 days of FOIA refusals, or those FOIA refusals are null and void by default.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
22. I'm surprised Trump hasn't already sued them for a cut of their profits
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 07:32 PM
Apr 2021

"They were nothing until I marketed their product for them on national TV!"

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
29. They were arrested nearly a year ago
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 07:45 PM
Apr 2021

"A federal grand jury brought charges against members of a Bradenton family nearly a year after they were arrested for selling bleach that they claimed to be a cure for the COVID-19 virus."

It's just taken until now for them to be charged.


msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
37. are these twins ?
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 08:21 AM
Apr 2021

there is a striking resemblance regardless of the one on the right looking like he's drugged up on an opiate or something. Glad to see them in orange, what about daddy? is he booked and charged too?

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
33. It looks like they were the ones who gave trump the idea.
Sun Apr 25, 2021, 08:50 PM
Apr 2021

"In April 2020, Grenon claimed he wrote to the president touting MMS as a treatment for COVID-19. It was just days before the president made controversial remarks about the possibility of injecting disinfectant into COVID-19 patients. The president later claimed the remarks were sarcastically made to reporters, “just to see what would happen.”

However, the remarks appeared to encourage Grenon, who promoted Trump’s statements as support for MMS."

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