COVID trolls went nuts over this graphic. it spoiled their narrative.

[kpete]

The U.S. death rate in 2020 was the highest above normal since the early 1900s — even surpassing the calamity of the 1918 flu pandemic.

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/23/us/covid-19-death-toll.html

[Hugin]

1. The below normal are also interesting...

The trend is too.

Better and better... Then BOOM Trump.

[Hortensis]

3. Also, in 2020 the rate was a bit below normal, preumably from

the tamping down of normal life, skipping the flu, etc, which outnumbered Covid deaths. Then came what happened next, with the graph reminiscent of the graph of what's belatedly happening in India.

Definitely to that Trump-Repub BOOM. It's also happening in all the nations with populist governments that got into power by appealing to the worst in people. Zero surprise, zero coincidence of course.

[Hugin]

12. Also, a transition from disease to injury over the last decade.

Must be a lot of open manholes out there or it's the gender reveals.

Still, injury is something largely preventable.

[Hortensis]

13. Lol. I noticed that in the last of the umpteen years injury held at 6%.

Then came the gender reveals.

[dsc]

15. diseases went down while accidents stayed more constant

thus a higher percent from accidents. Antibiotics lead to a huge drop in deaths (from both disease and accidents), cutting smoking rates (lowered diseases' share), cancer being far more treatable in many cases (again lowered disease).

[Hugin]

16. There's a trend with the younger cohorts...

of acquiring experiences rather than things. Which is outside of these charts. Some of those experiences are no doubt hazardous.

Also, unintentional injuries is not broken down into what type of injuries on these charts. Gunshots would be an interesting data point.

[Hortensis]

29. Hmmm. Aside from spreading killer disease, we're doing better all the time.

[dsc]

31. this year is an exception of course

but the top killers have become less deadly over time as we have improved both prevention and treatment.

[Hortensis]

32. And with big recent advances, more are about to become far less deadly!

These are exciting times for medicinal researchers and practitioners.

[Ms. Toad]

27. What do you mean that in 2020 the rate was a bit below normal -

As I read it, the death rate n 2020 was 16% ABOVE normal.

In 2018 & 2019 it was below normal, despite life going on as normal in 2018 & 2019, but in 2020 it jumped to 16% above normal - which is the entire point of the article (countering the narrative that all of the COVID deaths are just mislabeled deaths from something else - because by any measure the death rate in 2020 was even more above norml than in 1918).

[Hortensis]

30. Sorry, meant right before 2020, that little blue drop before the pandemic hit. nt

[Ms. Toad]

33. That's what I thought you probably meant. n/t

[FakeNoose]

2. From the same article: Leading causes of death in the U.S. 2015-20

How can anybody argue with this? Show me how this could possibly be a hoax.

[Yavin4]

4. People have deep-seeded biases and only accept data that confirm their biases.

Data that contradicts their biases is discarded.

The essence of human progress is testing biases against data and changing biases when the data calls for it.

[d_r]

6. They will say that

Other categories like cancer and heart disease dropped because they coded those deaths as covid. They will say the people died of other things but the hospitals coded it as covid to make more money. Not only that, they will show this and say it is absolute proof that covid was a hoax and that hospitals were coding all deaths as covid.

They will be able to do this because they have an authoritarian mindset. They believe what they are told and they will compartmentalize and rationalize any I formation to support that. It is cognitive dissonance on steroids.

[FakeNoose]

10. Maybe so, but they can't deny that the number of deaths in 2020

... is higher by 500,000 than the previous years. How do they explain that jump in one year? I guess they have to bend over because the obvious answer is just biting them in the butt.

[mathematic]

20. Heart disease didn't drop, look at the box size

The % of the overall deaths dropped, sure, but that's because there were far more deaths overall.

If anything, the increase in heart disease deaths is suspicious and may be covid deaths coded as heart disease. If anything, you would expect heart disease deaths to decline due to people with heart problems dying of covid instead of heart disease.

[d_r]

28. I understand completely

the difference between percentages and counts. Let me remind you of who we are talking about, and take the liberty of penning a reply for them:

"Um, heart disease was 23% in 2019 and 21% in 2020! It is right in the chart! You should learn to read, libtard. And that is just what they will admit. If they will admit that, think about how bad it really is. Wake up, sheeple."

[mathematic]

34. Haha, without a doubt we'll see that nonsense

I was more pointing it out because it's actually a pretty interesting thing in itself.

[d_r]

36. it *is* interesting

in my heart and mind I am absolutely sure that there were people who died from covid or covid extenuating who were never tested for covid. I am sure that the number is under represented. I am sure that there were people who died at home who had heart disease, who had parkinsons and so on that died from Covid but were never tested. I also am sure that there were people died of pneumonia that were never tested. I firmly believe this, but it is just my belief and not a fact that I could document.

[BigmanPigman]

41. This is an excellent point.

We likely won't know the real numbers for years, if at all. If states are purposely hiding figures we may never find out the real totals. This is what happens when crazy politicians turn health/science into a political issue.

[DBoon]

23. They learned that from their lifelong religious training

if the facts disagree with what the pastor says is in the bible, then the facts are wrong

If science contradicts what the authoritarian leader says is true, then scientists are evil

[irisblue]

19. Science and Mathamatics are demonic instruments? /s

[Silent3]

5. Notice the big drop off in the death rate following the 1918 peak

We should expect a drop like that next year too (unless we have a crisis with COVID variants), when there will be a lack of deaths of due to people who would likely have died that year, but died sooner instead.

[modrepub]

11. I Don't Know

It could still be higher if COVID carries on (vaccine slackers). Hopefully not as bad as 2020 shows up in the data. Guarantee if 2021 is just as bad or as close to being just is bad Repubs will use it as a sledgehammer in the 2022 election cycle.

[FBaggins]

22. It has probably already begun

Take a look at the CDC's "excess death" statistics. Ignore the most recent couple weeks because some deaths lag in reporting, but it seems likely that the trend has crossed the expected death line already.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

[Towlie]

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[dalton99a]

9. +1

[dickthegrouch]

8. And how many of the above normal spikes correlate to recessions?

Where people lose everything and decide that either the "shame" of facing it, or the "certainty" that they can't possibly recover from the financial ruin is the reason to end their lives?


Either way we need more and better safety nets. Financially and healthwise.
For both the world and its people.

[Johonny]

14. I'm going to take that as partially meaning

people in the early part of the 20th century just died a lot because medicine was not very good.

[Hugin]

17. The food wasn't very good either. n/t

[PatSeg]

21. Things like indoor plumbing

and hot and cold running water certainly was a big influence in the improvement of the quality of life throughout the U.S. Also our more advanced water treatment facilities, adequate heating and air conditioning, the banning of lead based paints and pipes, and better food safety, including refrigeration.

If you go to rural areas in Africa, the number one cause of disease is often connected to a lack of clean, potable water. A single safe well for a village can save countless lives. Something that most of us take for granted.

[TexasBushwhacker]

38. Not to mention infant and maternal mortality

as well as deaths from all the diseases we have VACCINES for now.

[PatSeg]

39. Yes, that's true

[DBoon]

24. public health was in its infancy

more lives were saved by clean water than by antibiotics

[FBaggins]

26. That's better illustrated by the "Death rate in the US over time" graph

(which is just a few paragraphs below the one above in the linked article).

It looks like the COVID bump take the current death rate up to only around the turn of the 21st century. The turn of the 20th was much higher.

[Hekate]

18. KnRnBookmark

[BobTheSubgenius]

25. This COVID thing is one persistent and potent hoax, isn't it?

Imagine the carnage if it was real.

Oh, I should say that I got my first shot, just in case it's real. Makes me feel better, oddly.

[stopdiggin]

35. Since roughly 1940

there has been one single incidence (year) where death rate deviated by more than 5% (and in that case, 1975?, incidence fell below, to just slightly more than 5).

In 2020 -- 16% -- above norm.
A staggering aberration!

(for clarity: one previous case in 80 years!)

[Blue Owl]

37. Womp womp womp for the trolls

[sarcasmo]

40. Kick!

[cstanleytech]

42. Even allowing for the fact that the US had only a little over a 100 million people back in 1918

the number of deaths due to the flu back then was still lower than Covid which shows how much worse Covid really is.