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cop: I thought his cell phone was a gun!!
Virginia deputy mistook cordless house phone for gun in shooting of Black man, attorney says
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/04/25/isaiah-brown-shot-virginia-sheriffs-deputy-phone-gun/7376535002/
kysrsoze
(6,023 posts)What the hell is wrong with all these idiotic cops? I think people need to start recognizing the fact that some people pursue a law enforcement career because they've failed at everything else. I personally know a couple of people who did this. Although there are many great cops, we have a lot who either have a power/control complex and many who aren't the sharpest tool in the shed.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)to be eliminated, instead of citizens with rights.
Bayard
(22,149 posts)The cop had given him a ride home earlier when his car broke down.
babylonsister
(171,092 posts)legs or shoulders or any place that wouldn't be fatal if they feel they have to disarm someone? And when did shoot first, ask questions later take priority?
BlueTsunami2018
(3,503 posts)These guys arent trick shooters, theyre taught to aim center mass. Why not ask why they dont just shoot the gun out of the persons hand like Clint Eastwood? Its unrealistic. If you have to use deadly force you want it to be deadly. Shooting a guy aiming a gun at you in the leg doesnt prevent him from shooting back. Shooting him in the chest most likely will.
Are police sometimes too quick to go to the gun? Absolutely. But its not standard practice. Out of thousands of calls per day, its statistically rare that anyone gets shot and even more rare that someone gets shot needlessly. Over the past week or so, there have been several incidents, some were clearly justified and some that were clearly questionable at best, criminal at worst.
Its a mixed bag for sure. And it would help if we took these on a case by case basis.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(3,503 posts)You tase people who are out of control, you dont tase people who pull a gun on you. Its the modern equivalent of bringing a knife to a gun fight.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(3,503 posts)But Im talking in general.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Tasers fire 2 prongs, and both prongs have to seat properly in order for the weapon to be effective. Tasers are primarily used against mostly stationary targets. In addition to movement, clothing, body angle, purses, bags, basically anything can interfere with the proper deployment of a taser. And an improperly deployed taser is useless.
People like to think it's like a 'stun' setting on a phaser from Star Trek, and that's not even remotely the case.
That's not to say this cop was right to shoot that guy in that situation. But Tasers are not a magical device that can eliminate police officers from carrying firearms.
radius777
(3,635 posts)if we put our minds to it, but killing people (especially black/brown people) is more effective at maintaining the racial and class order.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Bean bag rounds are one of them. Rubber bullets another. All of them have drawbacks and can still kill in some circumstances.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)A black person or other person of color is shot dead. Maybe the training isnt right. Maybe not every damned cop needs to have a gun.
NickB79
(19,268 posts)Ammo is expensive, and most police only have to qualify once a year on the range. And by "qualify", I mean get most of their bullets on a man-sized target.
To get our police force to that level of precision would require higher-quality guns and ammo (most aren't that accurate from the factory) and MUCH more training, similar to what we give Special Forces soldiers.