Private school bans vaccinated teachers from being around children: report

[turbinetree]

By Bob Brigham
Published April 26, 2021

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Misinformation about coronavirus vaccines continues to impact public policy -- even at schools.

"A private school in the fashionable Design District of Miami sent its faculty and staff a letter last week about getting vaccinated against Covid-19. But unlike institutions that have encouraged and even facilitated vaccination for teachers, the school, Centner Academy, did the opposite: One of its co-founders, Leila Centner, informed employees 'with a very heavy heart' that if they chose to get a shot, they would have to stay away from students," The New York Times reported Monday.

"In an example of how misinformation threatens the nation's effort to vaccinate enough Americans to get the coronavirus under control, Ms. Centner, who has frequently shared anti-vaccine posts on Facebook, claimed in the letter that 'reports have surfaced recently of non-vaccinated people being negatively impacted by interacting with people who have been vaccinated. Even among our own population, we have at least three women with menstrual cycles impacted after having spent time with a vaccinated person,' she wrote, repeating a false claim that vaccinated people can somehow pass the vaccine to others and thereby affect their reproductive systems. (They can do neither.)" the newspaper fact-checked.

https://www.rawstory.com/private-school/



Damned if you do and damned if you don't..........

[dalton99a]

1. Beyond idiotic.

[AZ8theist]

51. A fucking MORON running a private school.

Every parent with children in that school should demand an immediate refund of every cent they paid for tuition.

[mucifer]

2. Send Ms. Cetner to India please!

[Rebl2]

20. Good thinking

[reACTIONary]

63. +10 nt

[IronLionZion]

75. The period lie was being shared around Indian social media too

The government had to come out and say the vaccines have jack shit to do with people's periods.

[tanyev]

3. What.The.Hell?

[OilemFirchen]

4. This appears to be a win-win.

The vaccinated teachers can find great jobs at public schools, and we'll be rid of one noxious private school, due to a permanent lack of staffing.

[wnylib]

36. Time to remove students, too, to a school that

recognizes facts and rational thinking.

[MyOwnPeace]

40. Er, no................

you do realize that many (can't give a % for you) people teaching in 'private' or 'parochial' schools are there because they cannot get a position in a public school system, right?
Yes, there ARE dedicated people that opt to support and live their beliefs in the private sector, but the truth is that many are there because they couldn't get a position in a state-sponsored public school system.
The scary part of their job is that they are subject to the whims of the 'owners/administrators' that control the private system. They do not have the protection of a public servant and, as we see here in this example, are at the mercy of any crazy loon that 'calls the plays' in a private system.
There is a glut regarding the number of teachers wanting jobs. It is a seller's market - they can get away with whatever they want.
With our new First Lady I'm hoping that at some point down the line there will be some attention directed to the 'teacher employment' issue.

[OilemFirchen]

48. Actually, I didn't realize that.

Is it because they're unqualified?

[MyOwnPeace]

53. No, they ARE qualified!

There are more qualified candidates than positions.
Simple math - too many qualified candidates - not enough positions.
Population shifts - districts down-sizing or being forced to cut staff to meet budget requirements.
At one time there was a 'joke' that WalMart had the most educated employees than any corporation in the country - teachers working there while looking for jobs.
The 'glut' of teachers has forced some universities to shut down their "Schools of Education" because they were sending so many graduates into a market that has no need. Because of the supply/demand issue, there were fewer applicants for the education schools to fill their student rosters.
All of this has a long-term negative effect. Not enough jobs - no reason to apply. Not enough candidates - impossible to fill staff requirements.
There is already a serious shortage of substitute teachers - people that were doing THAT job with the hope of getting a full-time job in the future.
Yet another 'problem' that Joe is gonna' have to deal with - how to get the American education system in a position to be recognized as a serious means of ( brace yourself for this!) Making America Great Again!!!!

[OilemFirchen]

60. If we were to shut down private primary and secondary schools...

there would be ample need for public school teachers. Thus, my original observation.

[MyOwnPeace]

71. I understand your premise, but.......

there is NO legal right to shut down private/religious schools. That is a freedom that the Constitution provides. However, we (the public taxpayers) should NOT have to fund them.
The 'government' provides public education. If you elect to opt out - you're on your own.
It would probably be more efficient if they chose not to, but, they do have the right to do so - but it should NOT come at the "public" (the 'system' provided by the government) expense.

CLIFF NOTES:
You don't wanna' go to our schools?
FINE!
You're on your own!

Regarding teachers: Like any other profession, there can be a shortage and there can be too many. That's how the market works.
Where teachers rate is, unfortunately, based on budget issues, and the priority for teachers is usually too low. Schools usually are the first to get 'cut' when money gets tight and last when there is a surplus.
But, nowhere in any of this issue is there a place for 'government' providing for private or parochial schools.
They should be an independent and separate sector with no government money/support.

[dweller]

5. Cooties

jfc

✌🏻

[Jerry2144]

6. Let me guess

Jesus is their headmaster.

[smirkymonkey]

23. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

If I didn't know better, I would swear this was an episode of "The Twilight Zone".

[cinematicdiversions]

25. Honestly they strike me as more of a progressive to the left of RFK JR School. NT

[Celerity]

70. she and her husband are the South Florida Jewish mini-version of the Trumps. Real estate developers.

[Caliman73]

7. Hate to say this, as I received a pretty good education in private schools from 2nd -12th.

Private schools need to follow all state and federal guidelines OR they should shut down. They can do their special curriculum, but when it comes to labor law and public health, there should be NO leeway at all with private schools. You follow the guidelines for vaccination or you shut down.

I want to Catholic School from 2nd to 12th grade and thank goodness the staff was based in science and public health and not any fundamentalism or woo.

That woman is an idiot and has no business being around children or involved in any way in their education.

[ProfessorGAC]

28. Pretty Much The Same, Here

Same # of years, but grades 1-11. (I left HS after 3 years to go to college.)
My experience was very much like that which you describe.
The polio vaccines were given out AT SCHOOL.
Priests used holy water for ceremony. They didn't pretend it cured any illness or injury.
6th grade science teacher was a nun! We learned about science!
The small catholic school by our house is the vaccination site for the southern edge of the county.
Seems we experienced the opposite of what this nutjob is selling.

[chowder66]

8. Holy Shit! I would pull my kid out of that school so fast.

If that's what the founder believes what the hell are they teaching them there?

[IcyPeas]

9. **checks to see if this is The Borowitz Report**

Nope, it's real.

[LakeArenal]

10. This is medieval. These feudal lords are still trying to alchemy gold.

🙄

[dalton99a]

11. Meet Miami's Most Philanthropic Power Couple, David and Leila Centner

https://mlmiamimag.com/meet-miami-most-philanthropic-power-couple-david-and-leila-centner
Meet Miami's Most Philanthropic Power Couple, David and Leila Centner
Riki Altman-Yee | July 18, 2019 | People

David and Leila Centner moved to Miami determined to make a change in the lives of women, children and teachers.



Long before they had their children and sold their Highway Toll Administration company for an undisclosed amount, David and Leila Centner were dedicated to charities that helped women and children in Ethiopia, Nicaragua and Harlem, an hour away from their previous home. “We’re drawn to causes that break the cycle of poverty,” says Leila.

Yet, since 2017, when they decided to set roots in Miami (where David was born and raised), the bulk of their generosity has remained in our community. “When we moved here, one of our first orders of business was to find people in need and find a way to resourcefully contribute,” says David. “After we sold our company, we set aside an eight-figure sum strictly for donations. We invested that money and our goal is to donate 75 percent of the annual earnings.”

The two also devote their time to nonprofits like the Lotus House shelter, where they recently opened the David and Leila Centner Culinary Center, which features a state-of-the-art kitchen and teaching program. This August, they will launch Centner Academy (centneracademy.com), a private, progressive language-immersion school in the Design District, where the curriculum (delivered in Mandarin for half of each day) has been developed to teach kids to think creatively and become problem solvers. “The core of our foundation is all about the happy child, mindfulness and helping shape conscious and connected little beings,” Leila explains.

In addition to regular donations to the Arsht Center, JAFCO and Hebrew Academy, the Centners recently contributed $40 million in seed capital toward a real estate development in Edgewater designed to create affordable housing for teachers. “Our passion is to be the best we can be,” says David, “and contribute to humanity in big and small ways.”

[turbinetree]

12. Quaint quote:

“Our passion is to be the best we can be,” says David, “and contribute to humanity in big and small ways.”

[Merlot]

14. Just because someone has dollars doesn't mean they have sense

[MyOwnPeace]

42. BINGO!!!!!

THAT comment/statement should be SOMEWHERE in the Constitution!*

*(don't know where - but then again, how many of the politicians in the last Mis-administration would have any idea either?)

OK - forget the "in the Constitution" comment.

What if it was on a banner above EVERY POLLING PLACE in the country?

[Grokenstein]

52. Pack it in, Internet, we've found the Best Post.

[HUAJIAO]

16. Loafers with no socks....

[niyad]

17. Loafers with no socks, one of the weirdest sofas I have ever seen, and WHAT is with her weird,

legs dangling with front of dress pulled up pose?

Doing quick math. .8 figure investment? Say, 10 mil with a ten percent return is one mil. 75% of that is 750k. Sounds like chump change for this power couple.

[Patterson]

18. They seem mighty pleased with themselves.

[Botany]

50. Money doesn't always buy you good taste.

Would did they do? Hire somebody and tell them to build the ugliest couch possible.

[ProfessorGAC]

30. Well, I Do That

I haven't worn shoes with laces since I quit playing rec league basketball 27 years ago.
They don't make true slip on athletic shoes, or golf shoes.
So, I wear soft soled slip-ons, and if it's over 60°, no socks.
But, not with a suit. That might matter. (Or when I sub. I don't want the kids distracted by my not having socks.)

[HUAJIAO]

76. But, you're different..one of us.. :)))

And you don't do it wearing a suit..

[hatrack]

27. Well, gosh, they're rich so they must be fucking really really really really smart on EVERY topic

[MyOwnPeace]

47. Well, it looks like.....

you've caught on to what SO many of the TRUMPSTERS have taken as their #1 reason for supporting the DUMBEST MOTHER-F**KER ever to be elected (with Russian help) president of our country.

But then again, there has to be a "Newtonian" response to that, right?

"Well, gosh, they're dumb so they must be fucking really really really really TRUMPSTERS."

[OilemFirchen]

64. This Highway Toll Administration?

https://www.bbb.org/us/ny/roslyn-hts/profile/transportation/highway-toll-administration-llc-0121-87479/customer-reviews

Sample:

This company is a scam. We rented a car at SEA TAC airport (Seattle/Tacoma) and inadvertently drove back and forth on a toll road May 18 due to road construction. We tried to find a toll booth but there was none, so there was no way to pay the toll in person. The next month we received a bill from the Highway Toll Administration in New York for $60 -- two $5 tolls plus a $50 "convenience fee." The charges clearly stated that the convenience fee is a maximum $25 per day. I called Highway Toll Administration, was on hold almost an hour. When someone finally came on the line they said that I had checked out the car two days earlier at 3 p.m. -- and since one of our tolls was before 3 p.m. and the other after 3pm, that counts as two days -- even though they were both May 18. "That's the way we do it," she said.

Edited to add: Yes, indeed.

[dalton99a]

77. Yep - it's now part of Verra Mobility Corp.

[Totally Tunsie]

66. They're certainly partial to that particular shade of blue...

This is the Centner Academy building:

[Hortensis]

13. Hope most of the teachers have savings or other assets that allow them to

organize themselves and parents to pressure the school and to go public as necessary and explore legal options. These days, everyone should have the independence of action, not just the personal emergency protection, that savings enable. Just acceding is not an honorable option.

[frazzled]

15. Tuition $24,000 per year

And people pay to have this disinformation

[niyad]

58. According to their website, they have nearly 300 students. Over 7 mil a year. Not a bad grift.

[ironflange]

19. From the website:

"At CA we believe in health freedom. We know that every child and family at our school is unique. There is no one size fits all to vaccines. This is why we follow the Florida law and allow our parents to complete a medical or religious exemption form to opt out of the school vaccination program."



Lots of fun stuff at the site: https://centneracademy.com/

[Pepsidog]

33. Wonder if they would say that if Ebola spread by air and there was a vaccine.

[MuseRider]

34. Do they allow peanut butter? n/t

[SergeStorms]

69. What sort of parent....

would send their child to a "school" where vaccinations were optional? It must be a place for Star Island's fascist/conservative toddlers. The future propaganda ministers of the United Fascist States of America will have all gone to "school" there. Steven Miller types.

No thanks. Ms. Centner can kiss my rosey-red ass.

[Rebl2]

21. Hope the

teachers quit now leaving the school with few or no teachers.

[rownesheck]

22. Aaaaaannnnnnnddddd...

that's why you don't send your kids to private school.

[Journeyman]

41. I sent my children to private school, pre-K to grad school . . .

One is an executive administrator of a well-regarded private university, the other an accomplished artist.

[soldierant]

55. I think most of us know that good private school exist.

But it's a bit like good cops. They also exist - but before entrusting my child's life to one I'd want to know for sure which it is.

[Journeyman]

56. I wasn't replying to "most of us" . . .

[Arazi]

24. I'd just lie if I were a teacher or staff. Get vaxxed and then demand hazard pay to work there

Although tbh, they should just quit that freak show anyway. Obviously the owners don't give a shit about them

[reACTIONary]

65. +10 nt

[struggle4progress]

26. "We are concerned by reports of vaccinated teachers turning their students into newts"

[Hugh_Lebowski]

68. They got better!?! (nt)

[Polly Hennessey]

29. Please tell me that is not a sofa in

their living room. They look like two non-charmers with some wealth which they believe gives them license to force their stupidity on others.

[Pepsidog]

31. Vaccinated people mingling with unvaccinated affect their menstrual system?Quackery!

[bahboo]

39. I'll wait patiently for them to provide proof....

[csziggy]

32. Raw Stoiry references the NY Times which has a pay wall

So here is a Reuters article with detail on why these claims cannot be true:

Fact Check-COVID vaccines do not ‘shed’ from one person to another and then cause reproductive problems

By Reuters Fact Check April 23, 2021

False claims that the coronavirus vaccines can be passed – or “shed” – from an immunized person to an unvaccinated woman and then somehow affect the woman’s reproductive system are whipping around social media. Top medical experts agree that it is impossible for a person to transmit the vaccines to people they happen to be near and for a woman to experience miscarriage, menstrual cycle changes, and other reproductive problems by being around a vaccinated person.

“This is a conspiracy that has been created to weaken trust in a series of vaccines that have been demonstrated in clinical trials to be safe and effective,” said Dr Christopher Zahn, Vice President for Practice Activities at the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, the leading U.S. organization for medical professionals in women’s healthcare.

Calling the vaccines “our single best tool for confronting a global pandemic that has taken 600,000 lives in this country alone,” Zahn added in a statement emailed to Reuters that “such conspiracies and false narratives are dangerous and have nothing to do with science.”

{SNIP}

VERDICT

False. It is impossible to “shed” the coronavirus vaccine. Being around vaccinated people cannot hurt a woman’s reproductive system.

More: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid19vaccine-reproductivepro/fact-check-covid-vaccines-do-not-shed-from-one-person-to-another-and-then-cause-reproductive-problems-idUSL1N2MG256

[zaj]

35. F-this craziness.

[Diamond_Dog]

37. Sheer lunacy.

And these kids go here supposedly to get educated? Holy crap!

[OhioChick]

38. FFS....

These assholes will believe anything.

[RicROC]

67. another form of child abuse

[keithbvadu2]

43. A version of a vaccination passport.

A version of a vaccination passport.

[ramapo]

44. Why isn't there a vaccine for stupid?

Moronic

[LisaL]

45. Everybody knows that you can't fix stupid.

NT

[catrose]

46. HFS. Anybody who would send their kid there...probably agrees with her.

[MyOwnPeace]

49. That is ultimately

the bottom line - they buy in to all of the craziness.

Really? How sad.

Again, 74 million thought their 'leader' should be in charge right now.

Folks, we have SO much work to do!!!!!

[LymphocyteLover]

54. OMFG-- galactic level stupidity

[iluvtennis]

57. Dumbasses

[BobTheSubgenius]

59. These people supposedly educate children???

This story is absolutely bananas.

[CaptainTruth]

61. Wrongful termination suits possible?

Not sure if it would succeed in court, but even if the teachers are salaried/at-will employees & they get fired for getting vaccinated it seems like a good candidate for a wrongful termination lawsuit.

[Bucky]

62. Wait... are they afraid vaccinations are contagious?!! 😆

stupid like a fox!!!

[Duppers]

72. Total fucking INSANITY ❗

[mjvpi]

73. I wonder if they provide health insurance to their teachers.

Wouldn’t you assume that their rates would freak out?

[Initech]

74. Fucking morons!!!

[live love laugh]

78. There's no misinformation there--just RW politics.