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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSen. Joe Manchin brushes off the idea of switching parties:
'I've never considered it from that standpoint'Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia has never thought about trading in his Democratic Party affiliation for the GOP, he told Vox in an interview published Tuesday.
"I've never considered it from that standpoint because I know I can change more from where I'm at," said the moderate Democrat, who regularly pushes for bipartisan dealmaking.
The comments come as Manchin has tossed Republicans a lifeline by refusing to give into pressure from progressives within his own party. Manchin has opposed left-wing proposals, such as reforming the filibuster and raising the federal minimum wage to $15. He has instead advocated for Democrats to reach across the aisle to fulfill their agenda.
Manchin defended his politics to Vox, citing his West Virginia roots and saying that he's "just the product of my environment." He said he was taught to help those in need but also learned the value of hard work.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-joe-manchin-brushes-off-165852915.html
SWBTATTReg
(26,144 posts)it? It's funny because he got elected because of his 'democratic' label. I don't understand this. Especially when he saw clearly that the republicans all during trump's years in the WH refused to work w/ democrats.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)He voted for it. Yes hes doing media. But when another bill comes to the floor, we will see how he votes. I never remember him voting no during president Obamas 8 years at least to notice. All this so far is noise from the media asking him hypotheticals.
tritsofme
(19,843 posts)This is a state where Biden got less than 30% of the vote. That is the sort of electorate Manchin faces.
fishwax
(29,346 posts)tableturner
(1,827 posts)FBaggins
(28,670 posts)I have no doubt that McConnell can and would ensure a lack of a legitimate primary challenger. Or, more likely, an easy path back to the governor's mansion.
Assuming that he even intends to run in 2024 in the first place - which is no sure thing.
fishwax
(29,346 posts)West Virginia's republicans have gotten increasingly frantic over the course of the last decade. I really don't think ambitious folks from the trump wing would hold off jumping into a winnable primary for a guaranteed seat just on account of McConnell.
msongs
(73,232 posts)CurtEastPoint
(19,902 posts)Phoenix61
(18,769 posts)Peppertoo
(438 posts)prodigitalson
(3,193 posts)He can do the right thing and be beaten in his next general. Or do the wrong thing and be defeated in his next primary (either party)
Polybius
(21,630 posts)That's gotta be depressing.
prodigitalson
(3,193 posts)So you might as well do the right thing even if you are a cynical but long thinking person who gives any thought to how history will look upon you.
former9thward
(33,424 posts)Progressives tried to take him out in the last primary and got wiped out.
FBaggins
(28,670 posts)Despite the fact that many of them have been voting for him for decades and he would be saving them from (insert issue here)
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)Every cycle his margin of victory gets more narrow. I'm not sure he'll survive another cycle as a Democrat. I don't know if he'd win as a Republican either. He may be in a damned if you do damned if you dont situation.
doc03
(38,930 posts)just be another member of the Trump cult.
-misanthroptimist
(1,572 posts)Who tf on that side of the aisle does he think will compromise with Democrats on...anything?
Someone should probably tell Manchin that it's 2021, not 1991.
Crunchy Frog
(28,219 posts)Everything else will suck, but at least we'll have him out of the spotlight.
Also, I don't think basic voting rights is some kind of wild eyed left-wing policy. It's the bare minimum for believing in America.
Celerity
(54,001 posts)months, and TBH, it's 18 months, as there is zero chance Manchin will have an epiphany in the lame duck session if we get our asses handed to us in November 2022. The House, especially after our losing probably a net 4 to 6 seats due to the post-Census redistricting, is in dire shape for us. If just a net 5 seats flip D to R, the Rethugs are in control again, and the re-districting alone might do that. If we pass no real voter rights/protection bills of impact, our chances are even dimmer.
Crunchy Frog
(28,219 posts)We need to retire and replace Breyer on the SC first.
Our leaders need to act as if we were in a war for survival against the Nazis, because we basically are.
Celerity
(54,001 posts)He is on the clock, and needs to retire by the end of the year at the latest. I am terrified that something happens and we lose control of the Senate (even before November 2022) or, if we dodge that bullet, then do not get a chance post 2022 due to the loss of the Senate via conventional election-caused means.
Also, we are owed a RBG replacement, an ultra liberal, and my second nightmare is Manchin and Sinema refusing to confirm one.
I think I can safely say we will never again see a Dem POTUS SCOTUS nominee even get a vote (let alone confirmed) from a Rethug-controlled Senate, even if they have to block it for multiple terms of a Dem POTUS(s).
Crunchy Frog
(28,219 posts)if we sit back and allow the Rs to consolidate power by eliminating democratic elections through the state legislatures.
It may seem like I'm catastrophising, but it will functionally be the end of our republic if this is allowed to go through.
I really hope that our leadership is taking it that seriously.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)UTUSN
(77,302 posts)Blue Owl
(58,606 posts)So fucking special...
WarGamer
(18,321 posts)He's MORE powerful as a DEM than he'd ever be in the GOP...
It's about power.
