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Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 06:50 PM Apr 2021

Why Rudy G, John Solomon, OAN, Fox Noise & Dip are in Deep Doo-Doo.

Last edited Mon May 8, 2023, 08:53 PM - Edit history (1)

The 2021 FBI raid on Rudy Giuliani is relevant. something special.



Exposes the Big Lie Machine:



Trump's Ukraine scandal is a Fox News story

Fox helped get Trump into this mess, and it's the key to getting him out of it


WRITTEN BY MATT GERTZ
PUBLISHED 11/13/19 8:05 AM EST

EXCERPT...

Fox supercharged Giuliani’s disinformation campaign

Giuliani, with the president’s approval, developed a shadow foreign policy campaign in Ukraine, working with corrupt officials to dig up dirt on Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden, undermine the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia had interfered in the 2016 presidential election, and remove U.S. and Ukrainian players that posed obstacles to that effort. That disinformation campaign played out on Fox.

Giuliani filtered the results of his investigation through John Solomon, a conservative writer with a long record of serving as a mouthpiece for right-wing opposition research. Solomon would write up aspects of Giuliani’s work in columns for The Hill, then go on Fox, where his scoops were woven into the network’s conspiracy theories. Over a six-month period, Solomon appeared on Fox News or Fox Business at least 72 times; 51 of those appearances were on Hannity’s program. (Solomon’s role as a Giuliani henchman led to him landing a contract as a Fox contributor last month.) As Fox’s feverish coverage of the Bidens crescendoed, Trump and Giuliani both appeared on the network to bolster the smears.

Depositions from witnesses before the impeachment inquiry reveal that top administration figures at the White House and State Department were forced to monitor Fox for clues about the shape of U.S. foreign policy toward Ukraine. George Kent, a State Department official with oversight over the country, reported tracking extensive coverage from Hannity and Fox host Laura Ingraham. Fiona Hill, a former National Security Council official, testified that she and then-national security adviser John Bolton both regularly tuned in to Fox to keep abreast of Giuliani’s antics, adding that the network’s coverage began to “have an impact obviously on our work.”

Notably, Kent and former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch each testified to an effort by the State Department to contact Hannity in order to thwart what Kent termed a “campaign of slander” against the ambassador. Yovanovitch had apparently become a thorn to Giuliani’s effort to conduct a shadow foreign policy, and so he promoted lies about her that made their way into Solomon’s columns and then onto Fox’s airwaves.

Joseph diGenova, a frequent Fox guest who is Solomon’s lawyer, argued in March on Hannity’s program that Yovanovitch “needs to be called home to the United States for consultation” in order to “answer a slew of questions about her conduct and her assault on the president of the United States.”

According to Kent, State Department counselor Ulrich Brechbuhl subsequently “reached out and suggested to Mr. Hannity that if there was no proof of the allegations, that he should stop covering them.” (Hannity has since denied that State contacted him about Yovanovitch.) In any case, Giuliani’s smear campaign apparently had its intended effect, as Yovanovitch was recalled from her post in May.

SOURCE: https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/trumps-ukraine-scandal-fox-news-story



Now consider the Messengers, armed with disinformation — a clear and present danger to Democracy.



Professional strength propaganda...



A Dozen Questions for John Solomon

by Sidney Blumenthal
November 5, 2019

EXCERPT...

Solomon began his career as a reporter for the Associated Press, but subsequently bounced around in right-wing media from the Washington Times to a website called Circa News (owned by Sinclair Media and now defunct). In 2012, the Columbia Journalism Review concluded that Solomon “has a history of bending the truth to his story line” and “distorting facts and hyping petty stories.” Among his claims to infamy is publishing the debunked Uranium One conspiracy.

Starting in March of this year, Solomon’s articles in The Hill and his tweets spun out a web of conspiracy theories, in some cases then tweeted by Trump: that parts of the Ukrainian government in coordination with the U.S. ambassador to the Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch colluded to help Hillary Clinton’s campaign by leaking financial records of Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign chairman (who had been a consultant to the Russian backed Ukrainian president deposed in the 2014 revolution Viktor Yanukovych); that the U.S. ambassador had pressured the Ukraine prosecutor not to investigate a George Soros-backed group and “Soros-connected names” who helped the Clinton campaign in the alleged scheme; and that the ambassador told the prosecutor not to investigate a list of individuals and that, according to the prosecutor, former Vice President Joe Biden was supposedly attempting to quash the prosecutor’s probe of his son Hunter’s involvement with Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company.

Solomon depicted a second innocent victim of these conspiracies in addition to Trump: Ukrainian oligarch Dimitry Firtash, “a major target of the Soros group.” Firtash — close to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian mafia kingpin Semion Mogilevich, and a chief financier of former Ukrainian president Yanukovych — is fighting extradition to avoid U.S. federal charges of bribery and racketeering. Solomon wrote that Robert Mueller’s investigation was attempting to frame Firtash to get “some dirt on Donald Trump,” but that the case against Firtash was “falling apart.” Solomon stated, “The oligarch’s defense team told me that Firtash rejected the deal because he didn’t have credible information or evidence.”

The State Department labeled the charges in Solomon’s initial article about Yovanovitch “an outright fabrication.” Later, the Ukrainian prosecutor Solomon quoted as his source, Yuri Lutsenko, was dismissed from his position and disavowed Solomon’s reporting, saying that Hunter Biden “did not violate anything” and now said that his statements to Solomon about a do-not-prosecute list were false. Lutsenko is now under criminal investigation for abuse of power. Meanwhile, the effort to extradite Firtash to face corruption charges continues.

SNIP...

7. You claim that you met Parnas through Congressman Pete Sessions. When did you first become aware of the Parnas and Fruman financial contributions to Sessions? What other favors has Sessions done for you?

CONTINUES...

https://www.justsecurity.org/66962/a-dozen-questions-for-john-solomon/



Garland has the goods on these traitors. There is nothing FOX, OANN, the Moonie Times, etc etc etc can do about it. So, let’s get busy with the indictments already. The future of democracy is at stake.
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Why Rudy G, John Solomon, OAN, Fox Noise & Dip are in Deep Doo-Doo. (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 OP
Getting ever more fascinating. Down the rabbit hole we go. triron Apr 2021 #1
The Story Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #2
In the immortal words of Joe DiGenova... czarjak Apr 2021 #3
Dmitryo Firtash hired Ms. Toensig and Mr. DiGenova Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #9
Enjoy the baloney sandwiches, Rotten Rudy Jailiani. Hassler Apr 2021 #4
Rudy rubbing the Big Cheese Bigly. Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #10
None of them will be prosecuted. brooklynite May 2021 #32
Lev Parnas, next to Rudy, is under indictment right now. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #35
What does his indictment have to do with prosecuting the media? brooklynite May 2021 #37
You wrote no one will be prosecuted. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #39
going to need a truck load of beer & popcorn for this mess of shit !! jail m all ! monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #5
Get your program here! Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #11
Interesting chart, but I suspect it's incomplete. GoCubsGo Apr 2021 #19
BGR (Haley Barbour & Associates) Kid Berwyn May 2021 #23
K&R genxlib Apr 2021 #6
This guy wrote a book, using publicly available sources... Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #12
Wrong! Fox is an entertainment network and they proclaim it. Smackdown2019 Apr 2021 #7
Rupert Murdoch, his spawn and News Corp call it "Fox News." Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #13
I hope they are as screwed as they seem to be, and as screwed as they deserve to be. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #8
"The soon to be gotten rid of number." Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #14
I saw a completely hilarious clip on FB today that my wife found. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #15
That is a great clip. Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #20
Recent events, against a backdrop of constant attack causing the erosion of social and political... BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #22
Not clear why Fox News/Newsmax/OAN are "in trouble" brooklynite Apr 2021 #16
Siding with Putin, advancing Putin's agenda, disinforming USA. Stuff like that. Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #17
And how are they IN TROUBLE? brooklynite Apr 2021 #18
While I'm not in charge of their prosecution... Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #21
K&R UTUSN May 2021 #24
Comrade Capitalism Kid Berwyn May 2021 #28
K and R! panader0 May 2021 #25
The Big Picture Kid Berwyn May 2021 #29
Interesting scarytomcat May 2021 #26
Felix Sater, FBI Informant TT Kid Berwyn May 2021 #31
Just realized your connection to Octofish! Whoa. Judi Lynn May 2021 #27
Hiya, Judi Lynn! Kid Berwyn May 2021 #33
K&R smirkymonkey May 2021 #30
Rudy Giuliani Too Disreputable For Ukrainian Oligarch Facing Federal Indictment Kid Berwyn May 2021 #34
The Hill published many columns by Solomon, opinion disguised as Hortensis May 2021 #36
As editor in chief at Moonie Times pushed Uranium One smear of Hillary. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #38

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
2. The Story
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 07:06 PM
Apr 2021

At the end of the investigation, America will remember Trump is owned by Putin.



When Dirty Russian-Connected Money Saved Trump’s Ass and His Ensuing Business Disasters Helped Destroy the Global and American Economies

September 27, 2020
Brian E. Frydenborg

As Trump’s taxes return to the news, here is the parallel context and setup where he went from failure on the verge of collapse to being propped up by money connected to Putin’s Russian government and the Russian mafia and then to failing repeatedly and spectacularly in those related business ventures, but in ways that allowed him to hide the dire straits of his finances and run as a “successful” “billionaire” for president in 2015-2016. And, oh, he managed to fail in these ventures in ways that helped to bring on the global financial crises and America’s Great Recession of 2008. As the house of cards image of Trump lied and cheated his way to building up comes tumbling down, a detailed look at that shady time when Trump was boosted by dirty Russian-connected money is essential.

Source: https://realcontextnews.com/when-dirty-russian-connected-money-saved-trumps-ass-and-his-ensuing-business-disasters-helped-destroy-the-global-and-american-economies/



Semion Mogilevich may or may not become a household name.

czarjak

(11,254 posts)
3. In the immortal words of Joe DiGenova...
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 08:52 PM
Apr 2021

“Someone’s trying to besmirch the good name of Donald Trump” Unbelievable!

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
9. Dmitryo Firtash hired Ms. Toensig and Mr. DiGenova
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:23 AM
Apr 2021




Indicted oligarch Firtash found to have accounts open at insolvent German bank as he fights extradition

By Mark Raczkiewycz
The Ukrainian Weekly, Feb. 12, 2021

Excerpt...

Russian banks, mainly the state-run Bank for Development and Foreign Economic Affairs (VEB) and Gazprombank, have over the years primarily financed the growth of Mr. Firtash’s business empire in energy and chemicals.

Under former President Viktor Yanuko­vych’s truncated presidency in 2010-2014, the former fireman and soldier received credit lines of up to $11 billion from bankers close to Russian President Vladmir Putin, a Reuter’s investigation found in November 2014.
Leading up to 2009, Mr. Firtash was at the dead center of the biggest alleged corruption operation in Ukraine’s history in which he raked in billions of dollars by jointly running an intermediary company with Russian state-owned Gazprom to supply natural gas to Ukraine.

Mr. Firtash has defended the business arrangement as saving consumers money because the imported Russian gas was sold at prices lower than what official Kyiv had negotiated, albeit on the surface and when Ukraine was largely Gazprom’s second-largest customer in Europe.

Leaked U.S. diplomatic cables featuring his meeting with Washington’s ambassador in Kyiv have him admitting to associating with criminals, including Russian mafia kingpin Semion Mogilevich, to establish businesses.

Continues...

https://www.ukrweekly.com/uwwp/indicted-oligarch-firtash-found-to-have-accounts-open-at-insolvent-german-bank-as-he-fight-extradition/



Seems Old Joe is to be mixing conflicts of interest, the people’s bidniz, and treason. Da.

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
10. Rudy rubbing the Big Cheese Bigly.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:38 AM
Apr 2021


From Dumpy and Lev Parnas to Semion Mogilevich.



From Mafiya to Mayfair: Firtash, Giuliani and the London Connection

Stephen Komarnyckyj
Byline Times, 4 December 2019

On 23 March 2011, Dmytro Firtash, wearing the ornate robe of a Cambridge University beneficiary, shook hands with Prince Philip. That moment marked the peak of his ascent in British society. The village boy who once loved pasturing cows had come a long way. Thanks to his PR team, he enjoyed the image of a businessman and patron of the arts in the UK.

As bagman for mobster Semion Mogilevich, Firtash directly links the Russian mafiya to the British Establishment. He was once described by a Chicago attorney general as “upper-echelon associat[e] of Russian organised crime”. Eight years after his royal handshake, Firtash is currently holed up in Vienna fighting extradition to the US but remains untouched by British law enforcement.

However, there is evidence that his London associates are linked to Cambridge Analytica and Trump’s impeachment investigation.

Excerpt...

Some of the team at the Baobab Group worked for the renowned political consultant Arthur Finkelstein. Finkelstein, who died in 2018, was reportedly Paul Manafort’s mentor. He introduced Manafort to the eastern oligarchs who would prove Manafort’s downfall and lobbied for his protégée to be added to Trump’s campaign.

Finkelstein was also a strategist to Viktor Orban, the Hungarian President who had been befriended by Firtash’s boss Semion Mogilevich in the 1990s. Mogilevich and the Russian mob he oversees routinely perform favours for Vladimir Putin and work closely with Russian intelligence. Hungary, under Orban’s leadership, still purchases gas from Rosukrenergo, which is a joint creation of by Firtash and Mogilevich. The circle is complete.

Continues...

https://bylinetimes.com/2019/12/04/from-mafiya-to-mayfair-firtash-giuliani-and-the-london-connection/



Nice people.

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
35. Lev Parnas, next to Rudy, is under indictment right now.
Sat May 8, 2021, 09:29 AM
May 2021

David Correa, for one, pleaded guilty.



Giuliani associate whose ‘fraud-busting’ business was itself a fraud is jailed for a year

David Correia's business associate Lev Parnas worked with Rudy Giuliani to undermine Joe Biden's presidential candidacy


Shweta Sharma
The Independent, 09 February 2021

Giuliani’s associate David Correia, who hired Donald Trump’s lawyer as a consultant for his fraud-busting business, was sentenced on Monday to a year in prison after his venture turned out to be a fraud itself.

The Florida businessman pleaded guilty in October to duping investors in connection to £1.6m raised for the company “Fraud Guarantee”. The company was formulated to protect investors in businesses from becoming victims of fraud.

The start-up's ties with Mr Giuliani came under scrutiny after it paid him hundreds of thousands of dollars for consulting work while he also worked for Mr Trump as his lawyer and represented him during his first impeachment.

Excerpt...

The judge granted leniency to Correia on medical grounds, though he said it was “hard to ignore“ the irony of a fraud surrounding a business titled “Fraud Guarantee”.

Continues...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/david-correia-rudy-giuliani-fraud-b1799512.html



Agree Brooklynite, the First Amendment protects lowly liars and propagandists like Solomon, but if he is a co-conspirator in a plot to destroy the reputations of the ambassador and others, including private citizens, he should be held to account.

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
39. You wrote no one will be prosecuted.
Sat May 8, 2021, 10:55 AM
May 2021

Where did I write the media would be prosecuted?

To survive, Democracy requires Truth. Hence, the First Amendment, establishing freedom of speech, the press, and religion (belief).

The media which support the Big Lie have been exposed. The public, and history, will condemn them in a way no court can. Murdoch, OAN, Solomon, and others like them are sources of disinformation.

What I would like to make clear: They are liars. And they will be held to account.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
19. Interesting chart, but I suspect it's incomplete.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 08:25 AM
Apr 2021

No Sebastian Gorka. No Ron Johnson or other Republican members of Congress who made that July 4th trip to Moscow... Also missing: Maria Butina and various NRA associates. I'm thinking Netanyahoo has his fingers in this, too.

I didn't realize Haley Barbour was involved. Interesting, but can't say I'm at all surprised.

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
23. BGR (Haley Barbour & Associates)
Sat May 1, 2021, 04:55 PM
May 2021

Lobbyists.



How an adviser at Haley Barbour lobbying firm is at the center of Trump-Ukraine saga

Giacomo Bologna
Mississippi Clarion Ledger, Sept. 27, 2019

An adviser for the lobbying firm of former Gov. Haley Barbour could be a crucial witness in the President Donald Trump-Ukraine issue engulfing national politics.

Kurt Volker is a senior international adviser to the BGR Group, the lobbying firm founded by Barbour.

Ukraine hired Barbour and the BGR Group in 2017 to lobby on behalf of the country in Washington, D.C.

That same year, Volker began working as a special envoy to Ukraine — a volunteer position through the U.S. State Department...

Continues...

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/27/former-mississippi-gov-haley-barbours-firm-linked-trump-ukraine/3787360002/



Evaporated along with the investigation as some witnesses were found to counter other’s testimony. From what I remember, Volker blamed Giuliani, rather than Trump.

Regarding the chart: the very bottom line makes clear it is incomplete. We need more competent investigators with subpoena power to fill it in properly. AG Garland seems to be the guy the United States needs to end the treasonous plot.

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
12. This guy wrote a book, using publicly available sources...
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 08:07 AM
Apr 2021
When Dirty Russian-Connected Money Saved Trump’s Ass and His Ensuing Business Disasters Helped Destroy the Global and American Economies

Brian E. Frydenborg put up a chapter here...

https://realcontextnews.com/when-dirty-russian-connected-money-saved-trumps-ass-and-his-ensuing-business-disasters-helped-destroy-the-global-and-american-economies/

Frydenborg wonders why the press didn’t see, let alone ask, about any of this in 2015?

Smackdown2019

(1,184 posts)
7. Wrong! Fox is an entertainment network and they proclaim it.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 09:47 PM
Apr 2021

Yes, it does they do seem busted, but! But, Fox is a entertainment network and they will have their lawyers to say it was all part of an entertainment programming, even though it was misleading and false claims. Legally as to have the corporation spanked, not going to happen...

Why?

1. They will proclaim it was entertaining and they have first amendment freedom of the press. Even though, they are nothing but devils of the Fourth Reich.

2. Currently we have a pack Nazi Court.

3. They are a corporation, so in hindsight, just dollars will be punitive.

As for the rest of the Fourth Reich Nazi's, we have real Americans digging up the truth and bringing in those to justice!

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
13. Rupert Murdoch, his spawn and News Corp call it "Fox News."
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 08:20 AM
Apr 2021

And while in court to avoid prosecution for Tucker Inbred libeling Karen McDougal, they have described themselves as entertainers, Fox News has weaponized information by misinforming, disinforming and propagandizing a large swath of the United States.

For instance:



How Team Trump used Fox News as a laundromat for unverified Russian information about top Democrats

By Marshall Cohen, Oliver Darcy and Zachary Cohen
CNN, October 12, 2020

While most of the nation was largely fixated over the past week on President Donald Trump's coronavirus diagnosis, the President and his allies in right-wing media have been engrossed with something else entirely.

Trump, with the help of outlets like Fox News, has been pushing a dishonest narrative in touting intelligence documents that his administration declassified last month on the eve of the first presidential debate. They claimed the information was a supposed smoking gun proving that Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration sought to frame Trump with a Russian collusion scandal.

But when examined closely the documents indicate no such thing. In fact, by the Trump administration's own admission, they are based on unverified Russian intelligence that could be totally bogus. Which is to say that the President and Fox News personalities such as Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson are hyping and disseminating information that originates from a foreign adversary to bludgeon top Democratic officials.

Snip...

What makes this situation more alarming is that John Ratcliffe, Trump's Director of National Intelligence who declassified the documents, appears to be selectively doing so to help Trump accuse his 2020 opponent of committing a crime -- all with the help of a major US media organization.

Continues...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/11/politics/fox-news-ratcliffe-russia-intelligence/index.html



Now. What is it that accomplices in planning and carrying out crime are called? Starts with a “C,” I think?

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
14. "The soon to be gotten rid of number."
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 09:32 AM
Apr 2021
Rudy Giuliani Voicemail Hints at Cause of Federal Search Warrant

BY MEGHAN ROOS AND NAVEED JAMALI
Newsweek, 4/28/21

Excerpt

Joseph Bondy, the attorney for former Giuliani associate Lev Parnas, submitted a motion in court in December that included the transcript of a voicemail Giuliani left him in November 2019.

According to the transcript, Giuliani encouraged Bondy to call him at a redacted number, which Giuliani then described as "the soon to be gotten rid of number."

Snip...

"I can confirm the veracity of the statements that I made in that reply motion," Bondy told Newsweek. Bondy declined to comment further on matters related to Giuliani.

A source familiar with Giuliani's previous legal efforts, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record, suggested federal prosecutors may be pursuing evidence of Foreign Corrupt Practices Act violations or Foreign Agents Registration Act violations, though the source told Newsweek they do not have specific information regarding the warrants served on Wednesday.

Source:

https://www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani-voicemail-hints-cause-federal-search-warrant-1587304

Sigh. Seems just the other day Rudy was butt dialing for dollars....

BobTheSubgenius

(11,560 posts)
15. I saw a completely hilarious clip on FB today that my wife found.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 07:08 PM
Apr 2021

Rudy almost indignantly denied contacting Ukranian officials to get some dirt on the Bidens. Very soon thereafter, he's saying "Of COURSE I contacted them."

He is the worst liar ever. Not in the way that Il Douche is a terrible liar because he lies constantly. Rudy is the worst because he can't maintain the lie for more than seconds...and then usually admits to even more besides.

It really was what John Oliver described: Stupid Watergate. As corrupt at Watergate, but everyone involved is an idiot.

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
20. That is a great clip.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 08:50 AM
Apr 2021

I never asked them to investigate.

Of course I asked them to investigate.

You two might enjoy:



Claire McCaskill Goes on a Tear Against Giuliani: A ‘Treasonous Traitor Clown’ Who ‘Played Into Putin’s Hand’

By Josh Feldman
Mediate, March 17th, 2021

Excerpt...

McCaskill told Brian Williams that “there was a time not too long ago when this would’ve been an earthquake” in Washington.

“Let’s just say what Rudy Giuliani is: he’s a treasonous traitor. I mean, he’s also a clown. But he’s a treasonous traitor clown,” she said.

“This is a guy who was working directly with our adversaries — another country — to influence our democracy. And he was a willing participant, as was Ron Johnson, as were many others that played into Putin’s hand in this bold and as-yet unpunished act of war against the strongest democracy in the world.”

Source: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/claire-mccaskill-goes-on-a-tear-against-giuliani-a-treasonous-traitor-clown-who-played-into-putins-hand/



His mind seems to have been targeted. Certainly wasted.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,560 posts)
22. Recent events, against a backdrop of constant attack causing the erosion of social and political...
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:38 AM
Apr 2021

...norms brings the "strongest democracy" claim into question, sadly. I have no idea what might have happened had the insurrection of 21/01/06 been more successful, but it would have been horrendous, no matter what shape events took. Short of "instantly", no matter how quickly sane people could have righted the ship of state, it would have been horrendous, no matter what. An utter Constitutional crisis, especially when you just KNOW Il Douche would have used the excuse to claim sole power, and claim the unary executive that the Bush admin aspired to and even claimed was possible...although I think those were largely trial balloons.

That somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of the elected federal government has worked and is working actively against it must make the foundations at least quiver.

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
17. Siding with Putin, advancing Putin's agenda, disinforming USA. Stuff like that.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:55 AM
Apr 2021

“A key element of Moscow's strategy this election cycle was its use of people linked to Russian intelligence to launder influence narratives — including misleading or unsubstantiated allegations against President Biden — through US media organizations, US officials, and prominent US individuals, some of whom were close to former President Trump and his administration."

Source: INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT ON FOREIGN THREATS TO THE 2020 U.S. FEDERAL ELECTIONS

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/reports-publications/reports-publications-2021/item/2192-intelligence-community-assessment-on-foreign-threats-to-the-2020-u-s-federal-elections

Giuliani being an “unwitting” asset is one thing, Corporate McPravda spreading Solomon’s sauce is another.

brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
18. And how are they IN TROUBLE?
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 08:06 AM
Apr 2021

Is it your assertion that they'll face criminal charges? If so, which statutes have been violated?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press......


Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
21. While I'm not in charge of their prosecution...
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 08:57 AM
Apr 2021

...I did point out how these members of the news media side with, and their actions give aid and comfort to, those who would destroy our Democracy.

In short: It’s one thing to support our Constitution, it is another thing to work and destroy it. Fox, OAN, Solomon, etc. have tried to enlist millions to their cause through weaponized mass media. Going by how many millions are OK with Trump’s treasons, they have been successful.

Learn more here:

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretation/article-iii/clauses/39

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
28. Comrade Capitalism
Fri May 7, 2021, 01:37 PM
May 2021

From before the other guy selected, is about who Rudy and fiends really representing:



REUTERS SPECIAL REPORT

Putin's allies channelled billions to Ukraine oligarch

By Stephen Grey, Tom Bergin, Sevgil Musaieva, Roman Anin
NOV. 26, 2014

Russian government records reviewed for this article reveal for the first time the terms of recent deals between Firtash and Russia’s Gazprom, a giant gas company majority owned by the state.

According to Russian customs documents detailing the trades, Gazprom sold more than 20 billion cubic metres of gas well below market prices to Firtash over the past four years - about four times more than the Russian government has publicly acknowledged. The price Firtash paid was so low, Reuters calculates, that companies he controlled made more than $3 billion on the arrangement.

Over the same time period, other documents show, bankers close to Putin granted Firtash credit lines of up to $11 billion. That credit helped Firtash, who backed pro-Russian Viktor Yanukovich’s successful 2010 bid to become Ukraine’s president, to buy a dominant position in the country’s chemical and fertiliser industry and expand his influence.

The Firtash story is more than one man’s grab for riches. It demonstrates how Putin uses Russian state assets to create streams of cash for political allies, and how he exported this model to Ukraine in an attempt to dominate his neighbour, which he sees as vital to Russia’s strategic interests. With the help of Firtash, Yanukovich won power and went on to rule Ukraine for four years. The relationship had great geopolitical value for Putin: Yanukovich ended up steering the nation of more than 44 million away from the West’s orbit and towards Moscow’s until he was overthrown in February.

“Firtash has always been an intermediary,” said Viktor Chumak, chairman of the anti-corruption committee in the previous Ukrainian parliament. “He is a political person representing Russia’s interests in Ukraine.”

Snipski...

Putin’s system of comrade capitalism has had huge costs for the ordinary people of Russia: By granting special cheap deals to Firtash, Gazprom missed out on about $2 billion in revenue it could have made by selling that gas at market prices, according to European gas price data collected by Reuters. Four industry analysts said that Gazprom could have sold the gas at substantially higher prices to other customers in Europe.

Is continues...

https://www.reuters.com/article/russia-capitalism-gas-special-report-pix/special-report-putins-allies-channelled-billions-to-ukraine-oligarch-idUSL3N0TF4QD20141126



Da. Da. Trump Tower. Da.

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
29. The Big Picture
Fri May 7, 2021, 01:55 PM
May 2021
From Byline Times:



From Mafiya to Mayfair: Firtash, Giuliani and the London Connection

Stephen Komarnyckyj
4 December 2019

Excerpt...

What is the significance of these connections stretching through Firtash to Washington and back to Moscow?

The oligarchs grouped around Putin have a vision shared by many “Conservatives”. During the Cold War, the West saw itself as exporting democracy to Russia. However, western societies were always, to some degree, oligarchies.

Russia is now exporting its values to the West, abetted by Western politicians and oligarchs. They admire Putin’s social model and suck up Russian funding. They aim to replace democracies with elitist fiefdoms.

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https://bylinetimes.com/2019/12/04/from-mafiya-to-mayfair-firtash-giuliani-and-the-london-connection/



That would explain all the effort to divide and conquer, the Feudalism.

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
31. Felix Sater, FBI Informant TT
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:45 PM
May 2021

From The New York Times, via Mother Jones, what Felix Sater wrote:



“Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” Mr. Sater wrote in an email. “I will get all of Putin’s team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.”

The emails show that, from the earliest months of Mr. Trump’s campaign, his associates viewed close ties with Moscow as a political advantage. Those ties are now under investigation by the Justice Department and multiple congressional committees.

There is no evidence in the emails that Mr. Sater delivered on his promises…

In another email, Mr. Sater envisioned a ribbon-cutting in Moscow. “I will get Putin on this program and we will get Donald elected,” Mr. Sater wrote.

Source: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/quote-of-the-day-i-will-get-putin-on-this-program-and-we-will-get-donald-elected/



It’d be farcical, weren’t they yyydoing all they could to destroy democracy.

Judi Lynn

(160,451 posts)
27. Just realized your connection to Octofish! Whoa.
Thu May 6, 2021, 08:53 AM
May 2021

Always appreciated and sought out your threads before Octofish seemed to disappear.

Thanks for this thread, and the excellent work you always have done. Conscientious, organized, and concerned with intensely important events and their meanings, not just a b.s. artist passing time until dinner.

Kicking, of course.

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
34. Rudy Giuliani Too Disreputable For Ukrainian Oligarch Facing Federal Indictment
Sat May 8, 2021, 08:58 AM
May 2021
I don't know her!

By ELIZABETH DYE
Above the Law, May 3, 2021

Excerpt...

Rudy’s reputation has gotten so bad that even a shady oligarch like Dmitry Firtash, currently facing extradition from Vienna to the United States on bribery charges, is very hot to let the world know that he’s not with Rudy. Federal prosecutors have described this guy as belonging to a cadre of “upper-echelon associates of Russian organized crime,” and still Firtash is scrambling to put some distance between himself and the former president’s clown lawyer.

In 2019, Firtash told the New York Times that Giuliani approached him with a deal to get the Justice Department to drop the case against him in return for dirt on Joe Biden. Giuliani told him to fire Lanny Davis, his Democratically aligned attorney, and replace him with Victoria Toensing and her husband Joe diGenova, conservative media stars who worked with Giuliani to advance his bogus claims about the current president. Firtash did what he was told, and indeed Toensing did manage to secure facetime with then Attorney General Bill Barr to discuss Firtash’s case.

But that was then, and this is now. As Talking Points Memo points out, Firtash has given Toensing, who also got a visit from the DOJ’s cellphone collection squad, the boot. He’s back with Davis, who put out a statement Friday with his colleague Dan Webb denying any involvement in the search for dirt on Joe Biden and his son.

Snip...

Mr. Firtash’s new-old attorneys failed to explain how their client’s name wound up on that affidavit. Or how Giuliani’s buddy Lev Parnas, currently under federal indictment himself, wound up with a $1 million loan from Firtash’s lawyer. Or exactly why he needed Parnas as a “translator” when he was working with Toensing and diGenova. The important thing is that “he did not have any information, did not collect any information, and did not finance anyone who would collect that information.”

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https://abovethelaw.com/2021/05/rudy-giuliani-too-disreputable-for-ukrainian-oligarch-facing-federal-indictment/

PS: It would almost be funny were it not for all the death and destruction etc. etc. etc. the planet’s criminal ultra rich have wrought to protect their privilege and power.

Most importantly: Great to read ya, smirkymonkey!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. The Hill published many columns by Solomon, opinion disguised as
Sat May 8, 2021, 10:08 AM
May 2021

investigative reporting. The Hill only let him go after his "outing" also outed them. They subsequently reviewed a selection of 14 of his pieces related to Ukraine and put out a long, disgusting PR piece in which they explained why it wasn't their fault (never noticed), though it was Hunter's and others' to some respect, but they were making sure it couldn't happen in future.

This PR piece, done some time ago, has ever since had the usual links along the margin to current articles pushing RW viewpoints and smearing Democrats, in their usual "more subtle than Fox" way of course.

Kid Berwyn

(14,807 posts)
38. As editor in chief at Moonie Times pushed Uranium One smear of Hillary.
Sat May 8, 2021, 10:28 AM
May 2021

The guy’s a pro.



Who is John Solomon? Here’s what we know about the journalist whose stories shaped the Ukraine saga



A tweet from President Donald Trump is displayed as former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch testifies before the House Intelligence Committee in Washington on Nov. 15, 2019. (AP/Harnik)

PolitiFact

Excerpt...

Solomon’s commentary for The Hill has generated the most buzz. In 2017, he played a major role in pushing the inaccurate Uranium One conspiracy, alleging that Hillary Clinton sold a share of America’s uranium to Russia in exchange for a massive donation to the Clinton Foundation.

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When Fiona Hill, Trump’s former top Russia expert, was asked during private testimony how she first learned about Giuliani’s "interest" in Ukraine, she mentioned Solomon, whose columns outlined the same conspiracies that Giuliani was actively pushing on Twitter and TV.

Senior State Department official George Kent later testified that what he had described as the "campaign of slander" against former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch began with one of Solomon’s articles and ended with Yovanovitch’s removal.

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Solomon’s columns also alleged misconduct in Ukraine by Democratic donor George Soros and claimed, without much evidence, that Democrats coordinated with Ukrainian officials to interfere in the 2016 election by sharing dirt on Trump and reviving a 2014 investigation into former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, who had ties to the country’s old, pro-Russia regime.

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https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/nov/19/who-john-solomon-heres-what-we-know-about-journali/



Yours is a great and accurate depiction of The Hill, Hortensis. For the Ages.
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