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Uncle Tim, Uncle Tom thanks you! (Original Post) Solomon Apr 2021 OP
Republican tokenism on full display. sop Apr 2021 #1
They should have gave him a banjo and let him Solomon Apr 2021 #2
I'm amazed no one is offended by statements like this. Treefrog Apr 2021 #5
if the shoe fits.. (nt) NoRethugFriends Apr 2021 #6
I agree, it's offensive. Baitball Blogger Apr 2021 #7
you remind me of this squirrel CatWoman Apr 2021 #50
More like the squirrel lady. Baitball Blogger Apr 2021 #51
This thread Dorian Gray Apr 2021 #19
while eating watermelon slices and spitting out the seeds............. CatWoman Apr 2021 #13
WTF Dorian Gray Apr 2021 #20
Some very revealing posts here today. Treefrog Apr 2021 #21
what you don't understand is obvious CatWoman Apr 2021 #24
A FUCKING MEN Cat ChubbyStar Apr 2021 #27
LOL!!!! CatWoman Apr 2021 #37
Where did I dictate to black people how they should feel and react? Hmm? Treefrog Apr 2021 #31
um CatWoman Apr 2021 #47
Boom! ChubbyStar Apr 2021 #48
WTF INDEED CatWoman Apr 2021 #23
Hey, don't you go dissin' on banjo players and step dancers.. that's my world msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #26
Scott merely reflects what most Republicans believe PJMcK Apr 2021 #3
They can't admit racism exists because they are the racists... Wounded Bear Apr 2021 #4
So sorry i offended some people. Solomon Apr 2021 #8
Same. Was removed earlier. blm Apr 2021 #11
totally agree with you in this post.. msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #29
He is very wrong Dorian Gray Apr 2021 #30
K&R UTUSN Apr 2021 #9
K&R, or is Tim Scott closer to an Uncle Ruckus? thx in advance uponit7771 Apr 2021 #10
... Treefrog Apr 2021 #12
I'm black. But thanks for your concern. Solomon Apr 2021 #14
LOL!!!! CatWoman Apr 2021 #15
An African-American neighbor used to call him "Scalia's lawn jockey". 11 Bravo Apr 2021 #42
I can't repeat what Arsenio Hall called him. liberaltrucker Apr 2021 #49
The OP isn't white. skypilot Apr 2021 #16
That makes it no less offensive. I have no way of knowing the race of the op. Treefrog Apr 2021 #22
LOL!!!!!!! ChubbyStar Apr 2021 #25
What is your problem Chubby? Treefrog Apr 2021 #34
Well, I am a black DUer as well... skypilot Apr 2021 #36
Be careful that poster claims to "See me" I think they have X Ray vision ChubbyStar Apr 2021 #40
I'm not the only one Chub. Treefrog Apr 2021 #43
You are not the only one? ChubbyStar Apr 2021 #46
Clayton Bigsby is more accurate. sarcasmo Apr 2021 #17
Yuck Dorian Gray Apr 2021 #18
He also said Georgia just legislated laws making it easier to vote! Solomon Apr 2021 #28
He's a total dipshit Dorian Gray Apr 2021 #33
Why are minorities not allowed individual ideology? forthemiddle Apr 2021 #32
false equivalency Celerity Apr 2021 #35
He can lie AND further his own, unstated beliefs. Hortensis Apr 2021 #41
Does Scott have individual ideology? skypilot Apr 2021 #38
Agree. Politics are really problematic for Hortensis Apr 2021 #39
Being a conservative black person doesn't mean you're an Uncle Tom. There are plenty black Solomon Apr 2021 #44
Right. It doesn't mean they have to be any cliche, Hortensis Apr 2021 #45

sop

(10,167 posts)
1. Republican tokenism on full display.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 08:36 AM
Apr 2021

Back when Obama was president the GOP chose Marco Rubio and Nikki Haley to give the SOTU response. Anyone see a pattern?

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
5. I'm amazed no one is offended by statements like this.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 10:30 AM
Apr 2021

Because he is black and in the other party, that gives us permission to act as though he has no independent thought at all? Are you calling him a minstrel? Unbelievable to read comments like this on this forum. This is by no means the first.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
7. I agree, it's offensive.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 10:49 AM
Apr 2021

It is a contradictory behavior that we need to find a better way to explain.

The problem is, that people like Tim Scott know that we're right, but repeat the Republican mantra because it's better for their pocket. And that requires special attention from us, but we have to find a better way to communicate, than resurrecting the Uncle Tom image.

I don't have an answer, but I do have a testimonial on how I won a huge concession from a black latino friend of mine who was viciously hard right. I steadily worked on him, using what I knew about him when we were growing up, to show what a poser he was. He repeated the usual right-wing holier-than-though bullshit, and I kept coming back with examples of when he was younger, when he lived in an opposite manner.

And, I really got him, when he tried to push aside the issues that are important to the woke culture, much like Tim Scott does. He posted a meme from a poster who was apparently black: "Liberals say black people should feel oppressed, and white people should feel guilty. I say, we all should feel proud to be Americans."

That was it for me. I reminded my friend that he lived abroad for many of the years he worked, where it was easy to dismiss what was going on in the U.S. But, there was one job that he held in the USA, that gave him everything he needed to know that the woke culture was right. I reminded him of a conversation we had. I said working for OSHA gave him insight, which obviously had an impact on him, because he told me that I should be careful.

He didn't disagree with me. On the contrary, he "liked" my comment.

So I deduce that he's a hard-rightwinger for personal preservation reasons. That's what we're fighting against. We have minorities who chose to look the other way because it's better for them, personally.

CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
24. what you don't understand is obvious
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:02 PM
Apr 2021

you don't dictate to black people how they should feel and react when they are humiliated on national tv by one of their very own.

deal with it.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
31. Where did I dictate to black people how they should feel and react? Hmm?
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:09 PM
Apr 2021

Am I allowed to think something is offensive without your permission? My wife is black, and I can’t tell you what she said when I showed her this thread or my post would be deleted. If you’re ok with comments about ‘spitting watermelon seeds’ here on du, well, ok for you. I find it offensive and I don’t need YOUR permission as to how I feel. You seem to think YOU can dictate to ME how I should feel. Nah.

CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
23. WTF INDEED
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:01 PM
Apr 2021

YOU, nor ANYONE ELSE has the right to dictate to me the level of overall loathing and indignation I feel for that man.

Last night was a complete embarrassment for my tribe.

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
26. Hey, don't you go dissin' on banjo players and step dancers.. that's my world
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:03 PM
Apr 2021

I love it with all my heart and soul. Without it I couldn't have survived the past five years.

Thank you in advance...

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
3. Scott merely reflects what most Republicans believe
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 08:39 AM
Apr 2021

The deep, systemic racism of the Republican party is one of the cancers threatening our nation.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
4. They can't admit racism exists because they are the racists...
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 10:28 AM
Apr 2021

pretty simple, really. It's the old "I would never do that!" defense.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
8. So sorry i offended some people.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:11 PM
Apr 2021

But as a black man watching my brothers and sisters getting mowed down everyday, even shot in the back, i take more offense to Tim Scott telling everyone, America is not a racist country.

I've had enough. Sorry i offended some but im not going to remove it. I know one when i see one If the mods want to remove it then so be it.

Thankyou.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
30. He is very wrong
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:07 PM
Apr 2021

and I understand the anger at that. What i don't understand is perpetuating harmful stereotypes that some in this thread have gleefully been spreading. It's obvious Tim Scott is wrong. Racism is woven into the fabric of our society. And it's awful to deny that. I think some of the responses here have proven how wrong he is. A thread of "allies" who want to prove him wrong have done so better than they could have imagined.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
22. That makes it no less offensive. I have no way of knowing the race of the op.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:00 PM
Apr 2021

But there are numerous others who have identified as white who are making similar comments. This thread is really eye-opening.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
40. Be careful that poster claims to "See me" I think they have X Ray vision
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:47 PM
Apr 2021

or a really good Ophthalmologist!

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
43. I'm not the only one Chub.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:03 PM
Apr 2021

Not idea why you always seem to feel the need to attack me. As I’ve commented to you before, I’ve no idea of any history between us. As for you calling me by my previous name, go for it. Easier to spell? You enjoy your day now. Ta.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
46. You are not the only one?
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:44 PM
Apr 2021

Is there a club? Cool, please knock yourself out with all the fun social activities.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
28. He also said Georgia just legislated laws making it easier to vote!
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:04 PM
Apr 2021

They are killing us and restricting our voting rights at the same time. I'm sorry. My anger got the best of me. But I've been dealing with this sort my whole life. I know one when I see one. Some of them we call gatekeepers. They get in the door and then shut the door on other blacks. I'm sick of them.

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
32. Why are minorities not allowed individual ideology?
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:09 PM
Apr 2021

How is prejudice on our side any better than prejudice on their side?

I always feel than slamming African Americans, or other minorities as “Uncle Tom”, or assuming that all minorities must think the same is an insulting prejudice that we must overcome.

Not everyone has to group think.

Celerity

(43,339 posts)
35. false equivalency
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:20 PM
Apr 2021

Denial of institutional racism and stating that the new GA voting bill makes it overall easier to vote across the board are outright lies, NOT a matter of ideology.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
41. He can lie AND further his own, unstated beliefs.
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:52 PM
Apr 2021

Just as you can watch TV while you tie your shoes.

I believe belonging to today's corrupt and insurrectionist gang in DC is in itself proof of very bad character, not doing a good job of hiding behind that aren't-we-nice?! face. So it's probably not the best time to look for high-minded conservative principles.

But even that doesn't mean he can't have personal beliefs and goals. How could he not? "I serve me" and "I hate Democrats and screw every Democratic Uncle Tom who thinks I should also kiss white liberal ass" might not seem much of an ideology, but for some it serves.

skypilot

(8,853 posts)
38. Does Scott have individual ideology?
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:28 PM
Apr 2021

Or is he parroting the same groupthink nonsense that most Republicans spout?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. Agree. Politics are really problematic for
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:39 PM
Apr 2021

AA conservatives and especially for the few who openly break with the majority to identify with and further the conservative party. Beyond doubt for some it is strongly ideological, and of course some disagree with and despise Democrats and liberalism just as much as any other conservatives. But there are lots of other possible reasons, and of course skunks and whackjobs come in all races, but whatever, it's not the easy path.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
44. Being a conservative black person doesn't mean you're an Uncle Tom. There are plenty black
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:16 PM
Apr 2021

conservatives who acknowledge racism exists. Giving succor to white racists is another story.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
45. Right. It doesn't mean they have to be any cliche,
Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:29 PM
Apr 2021

accept any box, or be defined by anyone but themselves. They're individuals.

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