Biden is succeeding politically *because* he's a white Christian man...

[zaj]

... who is also warm and kind.

But "middle America" will listen to ideas that they agree with from anyone. But they only want to hear ides that make them feel uncomfortable from someone who's "like them". Someone that they feel is a part of their "tribe".

Biden is beginning to pull Americans together so that we can face a challenging future, together.

Trump wouldn't try.
Pence wouldn't want to.
Obama couldn't be allowed to.
Hillary wouldn't be given the chance to.
Even Bernie wouldn't be successful.

It's a unique combination of personal warmth and that he's "like them", which means he's a white, Christian, man.

It's both sucks and wonderful at the same time.
Sucks that that it's necessary.
Wonderful that it's working, at least a little.

[Wounded Bear]

1. Agreed. Sad, but true. Joe is doing shit that a woman or a black man couldn't...

because of the innate prejudices of the American public.

[BeyondGeography]

2. See the opening of Tim Scott's attempted rebuttal for proof

When they lead with “seems like a nice guy” it tells you their counter-attack is still very much a work in progress. Why is that? See the OP.

[Autumn]

3. Biden is also putting things that the American people need out there. Not just bailing out the

wealthy and Wall Street.

[betsuni]

12. Democratic presidents never just bail out the wealthy and Wall Street.

[Autumn]

14. What did the people who lost everything in the crash of 2008 get?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikecollins/2015/07/14/the-big-bank-bailout/?sh=9d5af112d83f

[betsuni]

15. What does that mean?

Why is what the Bush administration did President Obama's fault (who regulated Wall Street)? Bailout was paid back in full, as you know.

You're saying Obama lied when he said he "got back every dime used to rescue the banks"?

[Autumn]

16. I know how it worked. I also know how it came about and I know who decided where Tarp went and

who implimented it. My point is Biden is putting out there what the American people need and IMO he has done more for the American people during this pandemic and Trump screw ups than the banks and Wall Street.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/story?id=6513654&page=1

U.S. taxpayers are either big losers or winners in 2008, all depending on your perspective. Congress passed a $700 billion bailout plan called the Troubled Assets Relief Program, or TARP. It was originally supposed to buy the banks' bad mortgage investments, but has since been used for a wide range of bailouts.
Insurance giant American International Group, or AIG, got $40 billion from TARP. And most recently, General Motors and Chrysler got a short-term loan from the program.

Many homeowners have asked where their own bailout is, saying that Washington has focused too much on Wall Street and corporate America. Another group says that the taxpayers might ultimately win when the economy recovers, having bought shares in all these bailed-out companies at a discount.

This year might be best summed up as the year of foreclosure. In November alone, one of every 488 homes in the United States received a notice of foreclosure, according to RealtyTrac. Many mortgages have been reworked by banks, but it doesn't appear that those modifications are necessarily working.

The Comptroller of the Currency -- the regulator that overseas national banks -- reports that more than half of the mortgages modified in the first three months of this year were delinquent within six months. And the Mortgage Bankers Association reported earlier this month that about one in 10 homeowners were late or in foreclosure.

[betsuni]

17. What do you mean by "he has done more for the American people during this pandemic and Trump

screw ups than the banks and Wall Street"?

[Phoenix61]

4. And he's old.

No way to claim he’s too young to understand. That’s good for nothing but a belly laugh.

[StarfishSaver]

5. This is what puts a lie to the "you need to talk in language they'll understand"

You're right. The problem isn't what's being said, it's who's saying it. Many white people in this country want Black and Brown people to be quiet and invisible. They just don't want to think about us or be bothered with us. They claim that what we're saying offends them, but what offends them is that we're talking at all.

Joe Biden regularly speaks about race, racism and social justice in the bluntest
of terms. He doesn't hesitate to rip the bark off. And he obviously has observed and thought through very carefully. He represents the very epitome of "wokeness" and he is a perfect ally - one who uses his privilege to school and push other white people, not to instruct people of color on the appropriate way to fight for our rights. But no one (except maybe James Carville) is lecturing him about how he shouldn't say these things because it will drive away white voters.

Thanks for your interesting take on this.

[brush]

10. Yes. And what's up with Carville? He's become a "get off my lawn"...

crotchety, old man whereas he used to come off as somewhat informed and aware. Too bad.

His take on Rep.Talib has some merit though. Re-imagining and holding abusive/killer cops accountable is key but defund/eliminate the police-type rhetoric loses votes.

[brush]

6. Good and much needed policies are a big part of the success.

[JI7]

7. Yes , it's why Obama picked him to be VP .

[Lovie777]

8. "a white Christian man" . . .

That CARES.

[honest.abe]

9. Well said.

[FarPoint]

11. Well that is where we are as a society/culture ....

Here we are and then...at the very least...what is this man doing for America? He is not being a greedy racist white man...He is just another man who actually wants the best for America....so, I find the "white man" focus a tad offensive....


Overall...this Post feels more like " Flame-bait" ...

[redstateblues]

13. That's for sure

[abqtommy]

18. I dunno. You've posted an interesting op, but I voted for President Obama twice and

he doesn't look anything like me. There's more going on than meets the eye.

[GulfCoast66]

19. Consider this; the republicans are struggling to define Biden

And come up with a unified message that might work. Even though he is pushing policies more liberal than any president since LBJ. With Obama they did not have to come up with a message. The color of his skin made a good bit of their biased against him with no policy causes needed.

[zaj]

20. You "... will listen to ideas that (you) agree with (almost) from anyone"

You "... will listen to ideas that (you) they agree with (almost) from anyone"

[Tom Rinaldo]

21. Yes, and it makes him the ideal counter to Trump in political terms

The dynamic you describe is not true for all white, "middle America", voters, but I suspect it is true for most of them. Sad but true, it is tribal.

I will also add that Joe Biden is clearly a man from the middle class, and by that I don't mean the upper middle class. Joe's roots are in the working/ lower middle class. He didn't have "an elite education", there is nothing "elite" about Joe Biden, which undercuts constant toxic Republican messaging about "limousine liberals."