Is Flordia, Ohio, and Iowa lost of us now?

[DemocracyWins]

Looking at the results in 2020 we lost Flordia more then we did in 2016. Ohio and Iowa we lost around the same amount. Do we have a good stragety to take these states back or is this lost to us premantly and we should move on to other states? Will Obama be the last Democratic President to win state wide in all three.

[brooklynite]

1. Yes, yes, and probably...

We lost Florida in 16, 18 and 20
We lost Ohio in 16, 18 and 20
We did well in the House in Iowa in 18 and lost them in 20.

[USAFRetired_Liberal]

2. Yes

We have a better chance of winning Texas and North Carolina, and building on the wins in Arizona and Georgia than winning those states.

[Hawker123]

3. Probably

But never, ever give up

[Peppertoo]

4. GA being bluer than Florida surprised me.

[questionseverything]

6. While Florida technically has paper ballots, it is illegal to actually look at them

So who actually knows how Florida votes?

[Funtatlaguy]

7. Florida Hispanics either voting GOP or staying home is killing us.

And it’s not just Cuban Americans.

[In It to Win It]

12. You're right. It's not just Cubans. It's Colombians and Venezuelans as well.

In addition to that, more Republican-leaning voters are moving to Florida.

[Funtatlaguy]

15. Yes, especially those looking for a place (like Florida) with no state income tax.

[Peppertoo]

14. Sad but true.

[joetheman]

23. Climate change is about to handle FL. People can't afford to keep rebuilding. No state taxes

doesn't help them.

[pstokely]

26. more younger educated people moving from down North to GA, and also NC

unlike lesser educated white retirees moving to FL from the rust belt

[Omnipresent]

5. Biden will now have the power of incumbency...

And a much stronger economy, and a healthier nation behind him in 2024.
I can see him, doing exceedingly better among republicans and independents by then.

[jaysunb]

9. I'm more worried about the midterms. Nt

[msongs]

8. FL was bad candidates. don't know about Iowa and Ohio nt

[In It to Win It]

18. For Florida, I think is a bit deeper than bad candidates

I admit that I have no statistics to back this up but I believe that Republican leaning voters are starting to outnumber Dem-leaning voters in Florida.

[UnderThisLaw]

10. I was really upset

when we lost Flordia

[In It to Win It]

16. Same. It was such a let-down

I'm a Floridian. I live in South Florida and was born here. My family's here. I couldn't imagine living anywhere else (except maybe Dallas, Texas or Atlanta, GA).

In 2018, we lost by such a small amount that it actually gave me hope (even though we lost a Senate seat) that Dems can win statewide elections in 2020. 2020 dashed most of that hope.

Dems winning a senate seat or the governorship is really starting to look like a small and distant possibility now.

[StClone]

11. Iowa has several factors working against us.

Aging, white, populace, rural, isolated, who listen to two powerful radio stations broadcasting Conservative propaganda. Lastly, education in Iowa may have slipped and not be as socially enlightened as in the past.

[Poiuyt]

13. I think that Florida was lost because Republicans used the fear of socialism against us

Many Floridians are of Cuban descent and have bad feelings about socialism because of Castro. Republicans used their demagogue tactics to illicit that fear against Democrats. Never mind that the Democratic platform has nothing to do with socialism. Republicans successfully used that against Democrats, and we didn't have a good response to it.

BTW, Republicans are a lot closer to fascism than Democrats are to socialism, but I've never heard a Democrat accuse a Republican of being fascist.

[stillcool]

17. I lost my crystal ball

so I'll say yes to anything that is negative.

[rso]

19. Florida

We lost Florida because not enough blacks and democratic-supporting Hispanics came out in Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach. We won all those three counties, but not by a sufficient margin to overcome trump in the redneck central and northern areas of the State.

[Xolodno]

20. Population shifts.

Retiree's stay put. But those working move to where the jobs are or higher paying jobs.

In the case of Florida and Ohio, yeah, there may be more jobs, but given GOP slashing worker protections, encourage lower pay, etc. It forced D voters out.

Whereas Texas, continues to encourage entire companies to resettle there...but it also brings in more D voters.

[Yavin4]

21. Trump was a fluke.

Let's see how we do in those states when he's no longer a factor.

[UTUSN]

22. Exactly.

[JI7]

24. Focus on Texas and North Carolina . Problem with Ohio and Iowa is young and liberal people leaving

the state . In Florida a lot of anti govt anti tax types move into the state

THe opposite happened with Arizona and Georgia where people that tend to be more liberal moved there.

There might be a chance to win Senate in Ohio with Tim Ryan . He seems to know what to do which would turn the state less right wing again but can he convince them to do it. I think people might listen to him and Biden .

[Withywindle]

25. NC is a big state to watch.

Not hopeless. Went for Obama the first time, might well vote Dem again. Population is increasing, and a lot of that is from people from blue states moving for cheaper cost of living and natural beauty. Asheville, Charlotte, Piedmont Triangle, Research Triangle are all urban areas that are generally blue.

I grew up in VA, and when I was young, we thought NC was kind of a beacon of liberal hope and VA was hopelessly red. At the same time, our neighbor WV was the MOST reliably Democratic state in the area! How things change. Things can always change. Take nothing for granted and keep a close eye on demographic trends.

[rockfordfile]

34. Well

Florida is a purple state. Texas is a fossil fuel state and a lot of far right pos live there. Every state will and should be fought for.

[RandiFan1290]

27. So many of the boomers from NY in South Florida love donny dump

it's disgusting.

[Demsrule86]

28. No, Ohio is much closer than it appears...there are plenty of Democrats in Ohio but

with the gerrymander and going on 12 years of GOP governors, the party is in disarray. The Democratic Party is weak here in Ohio. As for Iowa and Florida...Iowa maybe but Florida no way...demographics will still happen...may be delayed with their anti-voter bullshit but it will happen.

[OhioChick]

29. I agree with you on Ohio....

Between the gerrymandering and the Dems being weak here.

Let's not forget all the Q nuts we have here.

[Demsrule86]

30. The truth is Democrats need to stick together and vote in every election including local

elections...the states were pretty much ignored during the first two years of the Obama administration and we ended up with a gerrymander that still exists in many states. And the 'message voters' ended any hope of getting any of our policies enacted when we lost the house and later the Senate. I always wonder what exactly is the message when you help cause a president to lose? If every Democrat shows up in 22 like it was 20...we will likely win. Presidential elections are great and exciting. But every election is important.

[Demsrule86]

31. There is more than a few of those...now here in Mahoning and also in Cuyahoga, everyone

wears a mask. I have not seen anyone make a scene about it.

[moondust]

32. Farm bailouts may have mattered to some.

The former guy was happy to bribe voters with taxpayer bailouts but I don't know how much political difference that made in rural states. I think the bailouts were necessary because his trade war with China led them to stop buying some U.S. crops. I don't know where all that stands now or how much trade can be restored.

[rockfordfile]

33. No. That's silly

Florida is a purple state and has a major Russian problem. But there's a lot of right-wing corruption in the state. The same goes for Ohio and Iowa.